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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally EVO and EVO hybrid. => Topic started by: shortrackskater on May 23, 2014, 04:58:22 PM
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I just bought a Bally Evo video slot, in various pieces. Most of it is assembled now although I have two plugs in the top box that have no home. I'm thinking they may be for a printer, but if anyone knows... please post. There's a two prong plug on the left and a smaller one on the right, with what looks like a ground terminal. I don't see anywhere to plug them.
Also... what model IS the Evo? I'm new to working on these. I have a Game Maker but this one seems much more complex than that. I did find a link "slot tech - interesting stuff" that I believe has some of what I need on it.
Oh... does the CD have to be IN for it to run? I'd assume so... :Scratch-Head:
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I got everything together. I think those plugs are for a printer or something up there. The machine powers up BUT... and I think this IS the problem: the CD rom just makes a loud WHIRRRRING noise. It's not booting up the CD inside. This looks just like a generic drive. Can I just stuck a Goodwill store CD drive in there?
UPDATE: whirrring was not the DVDr; it was the fan below it!
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This is great... I'm just replying to myself. Too bad I can't give self-Karma! :rotfl:
So... it is just a CD ROM... so, since it's not opening/closing... working, I'll head to Goodwill tomorrow.
Also I measured the battery voltage in the MPU and it was under 3V. I bought a new one, but kept the old one connected with jumpers while I soldered the new one to the leads of the other.
The next problem I saw was the audio out plug in the "suitcase" or whatever you call the unit. It had split in half. I removed the plate covering the plugs and saw that it was covering two more audio plugs. I'm guessing they're for some other model so I just swiped the one to the right.
This wasn't exactly the easiest thing. I had to remove the board from the chassis, along with removing the CDR (which I needed to anyway) and the metal housing covering it. After unplugging another small board plugged into the larger board, I was able to carefully feed it off the stands and up to access the bottom. So... all I need to do is stick in a working CDR, plug thing all back in and see what happens! :applause: Thanks to member tjlee for PMing me some documentation.
But if anyone else wants to chime in... that would be GREAT.
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From my other post but moving back here...
The fried diode was replaced on my MPU board. I'm back to the non working DVD R!
I've replaced it twice... neither will power up...no light! The old DVD will light up, but it won't work! I have NO CLUE why there would be any difference swapping one out. I tried a saferam clear and I get this after it runs through a test setup. Still no power on the DVD.
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Have you checked the CD power plug with a multimeter? Diodes don't go bad with age, it's usually a short that fry's a diode and you may have other damaged components on the board. If you have a meter and access to the board while it's turned on, try tracing back to the problem component. I would be surprised if it was just the bad diode
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I'm not sure what voltages are on the plug.
I found them... +5 and +12. I'll check.
But... when I put in the original DVD, it does power up. Problem is it wont open or close and read the disk.
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Okay tested ... +5 and +12 are were they're supposed to be. Maybe I just have a second bad DVD? I could completely rule this out I guess by taking out mine from my desktop. I know it works!
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Does the original drive spin up it is trying to read? When you turn the machine on it should "hit" the drive and the light on the front should flicker showing that the system looked for it and found it. Could be that the machine just isn't recognizing the drive for some reason. Or you have two bad drives:( From what I've seen across the 2 NLG sites over the years it doesn't look like the EVO's were widely sold in the retail market< mostly converted, trashed or sold overseas. Finding a good pool of knowledge on these may only be slightly easier than finding the fountain of youth which may be the reason for the lack of responses to your posts on this. That and the fact that the dealers, who are your best bet for information, probably are closed for the holiday weekend
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is this a evo or evo hybrid, an evo hybrid has the reels. thair will be a small board in the top box that splices into the data line for the printer if this board is not inplace you will not have a working touch screen. the white connecter im not sure what it goes to off the top of my head (i can check next time im near a "stock" evo) but that type connector normally is ac power for fans, lights, and other accessories. yes the drive is a normal dvd drive but make sure the replacement has the correct jumper config and the other side of the ide cable is in the correct port on the motherboard to the computer.
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Mark What the top display says has nothing to do with the slot operating. The codes on the top display are error codes for the Mikohn setup inside the top cabinet and not error codes for the slot itself. First of all, are you getting a boot up screen with this when it is turned on?? It should say EVO Evolution Series and at the bottom it should show what it is testing--Flash BIOS, LOW RAM, HIGH RAM, and Loading CD Rom. You will get this immediately when the slot is turned on. Attached is a picture of the screen. If your not getting this I would say the game board is not working. It won't load the CD unless this screen shows up.
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Does the original drive spin up it is trying to read? When you turn the machine on it should "hit" the drive and the light on the front should flicker showing that the system looked for it and found it. Could be that the machine just isn't recognizing the drive for some reason. Or you have two bad drives:( From what I've seen across the 2 NLG sites over the years it doesn't look like the EVO's were widely sold in the retail market< mostly converted, trashed or sold overseas. Finding a good pool of knowledge on these may only be slightly easier than finding the fountain of youth which may be the reason for the lack of responses to your posts on this. That and the fact that the dealers, who are your best bet for information, probably are closed for the holiday weekend
No... no spin no light. But the old one will light up in front.
I think I'll cannibalize the one from my computer!
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Mark What the top display says has nothing to do with the slot operating. The codes on the top display are error codes for the Mikohn setup inside the top cabinet and not error codes for the slot itself. First of all, are you getting a boot up screen with this when it is turned on?? It should say EVO Evolution Series and at the bottom it should show what it is testing--Flash BIOS, LOW RAM, HIGH RAM, and Loading CD Rom. You will get this immediately when the slot is turned on. Attached is a picture of the screen. If your not getting this I would say the game board is not working. It won't load the CD unless this screen shows up.
The "dot" screen on the top box goes through a series of ram tests... and then shows what I posted earlier. The CRT only lights up with a "no signal" message.
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Top screen boot is totally independent from bottom of slot. Forget it for now as it means nothing when slot is booting up. A no signal screen means no video into the monitor but monitor is working. THe bottom suitcase is not booting up at all and I can't really tell you if it is the suitcase that is bad or the top game game board or maybe both. I guess there is no way of testing this without exchanging the suitcase and/or game board with a working one. I could send you a new processor chip for the suitcase just to see if this gets you a boot screen. I also have video cards for the suitcase. This could be bad too. They had loads of problems with the suitcase in these slots due to heat buildup and the ventilation being poor. Also, do you have an ATX power supply you can sub for the one in the machine?? I have several here I can test to see if they are good and I could send you one of these but any supply out of an older ATX computer should work. FInd a supply and sub it and see if that gets the suitcase working in the slot. Again you should be getting the boot screen in my last post. If you can't find a ATX supply let me know.
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Could a bad CMOS battery on the upper CPU cause this issue?
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I replaced the 3.6v battery on the top board. I checked the battery in the suitcase and it reads just barely under 3 vdc.
I swapped out the DVD with one from my own PC... which I'm on now! Still not working. For some odd reason, the original DVD drive light comes on. The others don't including my last swap...and I know it works.
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DVD isn't booting because bottom computer is not booting. I think once you get a boot screen DVD will work. Try exchanging the ATX supply first if you can find one. If that isn't the problem then I can send you a processor chip and video card to sub on the suitcase board. You must get the bottom computer up and running first. Battery voltages are OK. Top game board battery I think should be 3.6 volts but 3 volts is OK but I would replace it soon. Things to change in suitcase are processor, video card, and maybe memory.
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it sounds like the computer in the big box (suitcase) isnt coming on when it should. can you upload a pic of the inside of it maybe you have one of the wires connected in the wrong place when you repaired the board? also you spoke of a possible power problem in your pm the 12v system (cd drive runs off 12v) is powered off the big atx computer power supply mounted to the right side of the cabinet under the suitcase. this power supply will only come on if the computer motherboard in the suitcase tells it to. so my best bet is something is wrong with the suitcase computer or the 12/5v power supply mounted to the side.
evos are not that popular of a machine i have worked with them quite a bit but mostly i convert them to kiosk or pos computers and i built one into a mame cabinet.
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Thanks everyone so far...
Just to clarify things.
I replaced d9 (diode) in the top board. It was fried... literally. It happened before I bought the slot.
I replaced the battery in the top board. It was under 3volts.
I tested the battery in the suitcase. It measures very close to 3volts.
I checked the input voltage to the DVD rom. It's 5v on one side and 12v on the other so the ATX is working, I believe.
I've replaced the DVD rom with a known working unit. Neither will engage the CD. The original one will light, but for some reason the other one won't.
"Whirring sound" was NOT the DVDr...it was the fan. I blew it out and it's quieter now.
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in the suitcase you have a connecter that has 2 wires one orange one gray are you sure its plugged in the proper location i think it is the reset lines from the mpu.
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Removed the suitcase again...checked all wires...the IDE wasn't connected from the drive to the board... BUT it didn't make any change! It may have been unplugged all along. I did lift that board out to replace the audio connector but I left the cables alone. I thought for sure this would have been part of the problem. Everything is as it was listed in my last post.
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Not sure what reading you're getting, but 2.8v is low for a CMOS battery. I'd go back to the original CD drive also. You don't have and can't load drivers for anything else. Might matter, might not, I don't know, bit the machine "seems" to like it. Beyond that I think I'll be a watcher for a bit as I'm learning from this too.
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i have never ran into a dvd drive that wont work in an evo. the jumper on the back of the drive does have to be in the correct place tho make sure you have it properly(a lot of computers use cable select because its easy i think the evo needs master but im no sure). the fact that the screen just displays no signal tells me the suitcase computer is not working properly. not coming on, being held in reset by mpu, or the vga cable that runs to the crt is not plugged in. btw this is a standard vga cable for anyone that needs a way to test an evo screen.
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I have had problems with processors going out on the suitcase boards. I think they overheat due to poor ventilation. I would change this out first in it. Also the VGA card in these is pretty slot specific meaning you better use what they tell you to use. Has the VGA card been changed out in this?? Attached is a photo of the proper VGA card for this slot. I have both here if you want to replace them just to see what happens. Email me
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I just don't know enough about this machine to go any farther... or is it "further?"
I got A GREAT deal on a bunch of parts! So I'm awaiting their arrival. I'll have MPU's and suitcases to swap out. But... if anyone has any other leads or ideas, please let me know. I'm still at a loss as to why the original DVD lights up but doesn't not read or try to read the DVD, while the tested know-good DVD will not light up. :Scratch-Head:
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I really don't know crap about these, but can you go into the bios and check to see if it's set to boot from the disk? Any chance your disk is damaged?
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I don't believe the CD will load until the suitcase boots. They do not boot independently.
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Yeah... that's what I learned from the others who posted, who have these machines: it boots from the suitcase and that's where it's stuck. I still wish I knew what the codes mean on my top display. I wonder if they're any clue?
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the c1 error is just for the progressive controller it will go away once the rest of the machine is working properly. can i get pics of the inside of the cabinet whats plugged into the suitcase. from memory you should have 2 cables plugged into it for a non hybrid evo.
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More than likely, but you'd probably have to have a service manual to find out what
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C1 - communications link down
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the c1 error is just for the progressive controller it will go away once the rest of the machine is working properly. can i get pics of the inside of the cabinet whats plugged into the suitcase. from memory you should have 2 cables plugged into it for a non hybrid evo.
Site isn't letting me post pictures... they're in the size range... getting fatal error.
Working now but very slow!
Here's some shots.
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More...
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looks like your ide cable may be in secondary i dont remember if this is normal, and it doesn't explain why you would not be getting video out of the suitcase but you can try to swap it see if the cd drive comes online. it kinda looks like the ide cable my be pluged into both ide ports on the motherboard if this is so that my cause some strange problems.
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Does it go to the top plug or the bottom? I'm confused... as usual.
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it should run from the top plug to the cd drive.
also if you get a chance can i get a pic of the back of the cd drive next to where the cable plugges into.
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Back of DVD. I did make sure the jumper on my replacement DVD was in the same spot. I've put the original back in. I removed that IDE from the bottom plug and there was no change.
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ok im going to send you down kind of an off shoot but i have it on a source i trust very well that this has fixed more than one machine with similar problems. first it would be helpfull if i could get pics of as much wiring as possible in the top box. thair is a device normally in the top box that if missing will apparently hold the mpu in fault making the suitcase computer not boot.
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Pics...
While I was here, I noticed the lithium battery was dead! Is there an easy way to remove the box? I got the two plastic pegs out at the top but can't get the bottom to detach. I'll have to resume this Sunday night.
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Last one.
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i dont know how they are mounted in the evos every mikohn i have seen has just been loose floating around in the machine. not seeing the cables im looking for. does it have a printer installed in it?
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No printer.
I found two screws on top and got the entire Mikohn unit out... here's a picture to show how it was piggybacked to the power supply.
Also another shot of all plugs in top box. I did have to wire all this together. The previous owner had it all apart. But I did get everything from the lower part shoved back up into the top box.
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lets try looking somewhere else. by the right side of the monitor in the back you should have a connector that has 3 rows of 3 making 9 terminals total(it may be hidden behind the bell). does this have anything plugged into it and if so where does it run?
also if you do have an extra suitcase and haven't already tried it its worth a shot these things do tend to overheat and die.
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I'm getting 2 working suitcases, 2 working mpu's, 1 CRT, and other parts... hopefully Thursday.
Here's what I see behind the CRT
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well i see what im looking for but its already been bypassed so thats not the problem. when you got it was any of the cables unplugged from the backplane in the most recent picture? thairs quite a few differences for your evo to any that i have worked on im thinking you may have a newer revision.
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This machine looks nearly new... most of the dates say 2003 or 2004 on it.
Nothing was unplugged from the back and everything seems to be where it's supposed to be. I don't see any plugs that could possible be in the wrong position.
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best bet would be see if the suitcase or mpu you are getting will fix it everything i see from the pics seems ok otherwise.
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I hope I can just swap out the suitcase... without blowing up anything. I will, of course, check all the connections with my other one before I just plug it in. The seller told me everything is tested and working and he's reliable. :applause:
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next one i build im going to do some experimentation on nearing the tail end of converting one to a arcade emulator, then i will take the effort to dig out one of the other ones we have.
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:applause: :applause: :applause:
Okay tomorrow...actually later today (I should be in bed :zzzz: ) I'll be getting a nice big box full of EVO parts. I'm getting two tested/working top MPU's and two working suitcases. Is there anything weird I need to know or can I just check wiring and SWAP out the suitcases?
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i have never had to do anything special to any of my machines. but maybe someone else has a better idea.
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That's good enough for me. I'll swap one out soon as my big box gets here. Thank you. I'll post back.
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Big box arrived. I swapped out the suitcase with the other (tested by seller) and same thing! No boot up. Same "no signal" on the CRT.
The fan comes on on the suitcase. There was no light on the DVD as well. Just for kicks, I put in the DVD from the original suitcase and it DID light up but didn't run, and I got the same "no signal" screen. I'm thinking this particular has a light just to indicate it's getting power.
I did get a top MPU board ... BUT it's not the same as mine. It's narrower and the plugs in the back are closer together. There's no way it will fit. It's entirely different.
I have no idea what to do now. :duh:
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Can u post some pics of the 2 mpus.
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fatal error! That's all I get almost each time I try and post here...I'll try one more time. It also keeps erasing my message.
Got one picture... still getting this:
Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 94371840 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 11964 bytes) in /home/nlgcom/public_html/nlg/Sources/Subs-Graphics.php on line 412
Large MPU is mine.
Also I'll attempt to post a picture of the replacement suitcase. It looks like mine, I think. Tried replacing the video cards (which DO look slightly different) in each... replacement card in original suitcase, and putting original card in replacement suitcase. No change.
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Bottom board is evo mpu. Top board looks maybe game maker.
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Top board is an EVO Hybrid slot game board(see pic below). Mark--I have three EVO video boards on eBay right now. All these boards are working with new batteries. Send me a PM if you are interested. We maybe could do some parts trading. TJ
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I knew i had seen it before it's been a wile since I have pulled the board out of the funky times.
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Top board is an EVO Hybrid slot game board(see pic below). Mark--I have three EVO video boards on eBay right now. All these boards are working with new batteries. Send me a PM if you are interested. We maybe could do some parts trading. TJ
I don't need the hybrid mpu that I got. The seller said it was for mine but it definitely won't fit! I don't really know where to go at this point. Everyone said it's the "suitcase" that boots up the machine. So... it would seem I'd need to see what tells the DVD to start reading. It's getting power but not the signal to read. I'll send a PM.
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yes and no the suitcase is where the video comes from but thair is 2 wires that go from the mpu to the suitcase. if the mpu sees a fault the it may not let the suitcase fully boot. if your getting 12v but the suitcase is not coming online it's a good chance its being held in reset. i thought i had you check this early on if not im sorry. 12v power on all my evos comes from the suitcase power supply.
have you ever tried powering it on with out the mpu?
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I've never tried powering it on without the mpu. All the LEDs are light up as well. One thing... and it's on another thread...I did have a blow up D9 on the MPU. I replaced it but that's not to say that there still isn't a problem up there still. I'll try powering it on w/o the mpu when I get back home tomorrow.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=1872.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=1872.0)
One more question... I do understand the EVO takes a long time to boot up. BUT... shouldn't the DVD engage or at least open and close when the machine powers up? I know the DVDr is getting power.
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unless the drive is active or not getting power it should open.
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It's getting power. Won't open. I have no idea why that would be. I've tried three other DVDr units in the same and a different suitcase and none open. Makes absolutely no sense to me.
Another thing I failed to mention: The red "reset" light is always on, on the MPU... the top board. I've done the obvious, pressed the reset button, turned the key, etc.
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i think the mpu is holding the suitcase in reset if the suitcase is continually resetting it may prevent the cd drive from opening it also wont let it read. the suitcase has an orange connector with 2 wires this is reset from the mpu remember or mark what connecter it goes to and unplug it and try powering up the machine. if you get video out of the suitcase with this setup you probably have an mpu problem.
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Found it. Disconnected it and powered up. Still nothing. I DO appreciate your quick responses! :applause: :1:
I have another tested MPU on the way. Should be here by next week.
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Tested working MPU arrived. Thanks tjlee!
I plugged it in... this time, the red RESET light is out... so that tells me my MPU was not working properly. But the DVD still won't open. So I put in the replacement suitcase I got recently from another member. Powered up and the DVD does open and close. BUT... it won't read the CD. I've left it on for twenty minutes and still there was nothing but the same "no signal" on the screen. I'll check in a few minutes but I think there's more wrong with this slot.
Should I try swapping the video board (I think that's what it's called) on the suitcase with another? I have two more boards to try.
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yes you can try swapping the video card in the suitcase. if both are working you should at least get signal out of the suitcase. to test if its the suitcase or the moniter you should be able to connect a standard vga computer moniter up to the vga port on the suitcase. also im asuming you swapped your software over to the new mpu.
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I didn't switch any software over but he sent the game CD with it. It won't work with the new or my original CD. This new MPU just came from a working EVO.
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i dont know if it will effect video but the mpu has eproms on it that has to match your game.
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One thing ... this machine is like my Bally Game Maker... it's got "UNITED COIN" all over it. My GM would not work with regular Bally mains and game chips...
Here's a shot of the old MPU and new MPU. I know the game chip is different but the others seem to be as well...
SORRY REVERSED PICS... first one is NEW (says old) Second one is the United Coin MPU
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they both have software dont know if one of them is correct the old one is 99 bottles of beer i dont have a way to check the others. but your mpu should not be the problem with video. i would think its the video card in the suitcase or the gray cable that runs up to the monitor. if its a tested unit tho i would hope the video card was good in it.
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But even if the gray cable to the monitor was bad, shouldn't the CD at least try to load? That's my $10,000 question. :propeller:
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not if something else is making it fail first. if we cant get video we have no way telling what is working and not. the suitcase could be in a failed post state and thats why you have no video. do you have a way to get a test pattern on the screen to check the monitor and cable. or have you checked the battery on the replacement suitcase.
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I have no way to check the monitor... unless I can swap it with my smaller Bally Game Maker... I think the plugs are different.
The battery is good in both suitcases. I can hook up a VGA right now to a monitor and see if I get the same "no signal" message. Stand by.
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I connected the VGA out to a monitor and got no signal. The Bally monitor still light up with "no signal" on the display.
I also put in my old mpu and verified that the DVD won't open while with the new mpu, it will open. So I've ruled out a few things. I know there was something wrong with my old mpu. So... something isn't telling the suitcase to read the CD and there's no video out.
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does it beep at all i cant remember if the evos have a post speaker in them or not. i would say you have 2 suitcases that fail post. start with the easy things move ram from one to the other and video card.
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No beeps. I'll try swapping ram and see what happens.
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No change with ram board swaps from one spare suitcase. I have two spares... one is nice. The other is a bit beat up, but I did try that one too and got the same results...
I still would like to know if the DVDr should be "whirring" on start up. Or, does it boot from the MPU and then the DVD starts to read?
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the suitcase is just a slightly modified computer. all computers run a power on self test or post. while in post it checks the cpu ram and video card for errors. you may get the initialization of the cd drive(it will spin a few times maybe the led will light), but you may not get anything. at this point tho im at a loss for what to do next you may have 3 bad suitcases you may have a failing atx power supply.
if it was a computer i would say try to clear bios first. if it gets corrupt it can cause a failed post, but i dont know how to do that on a evo. on a normal computer their is normally a jumper near the battery you move what pins it on and pull the battery for a few seconds.
also with computers the fail point is normally broadcast over a speaker in the form of beep codes we have already determined the evo either doesn't have a speaker or it doesn't do post codes. you can get a device called a post card that reads the codes over a pci slot, but they don't always work with a non modified computer i have no clue if it would work in an evo.
a few things to check tho.
make sure the 2 wire connector i had you unplug earlier is back in the correct place.
see if the cpu fan is stuck a bad cpu fan should cause a failed post.
choose one suitcase that seems to be in the best shape and swap parts from the other units into it(you can try leaving the battery out for a few seconds each time you do it cutting power to the bios chip should force it to clear).
never make more than one change at a time.
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I was looking at your picture of your backplane board. Unplug J6 on backplane and then try a boot up
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I unplugged j6 (behind monitor) and got no change...
The fan works.
I'll try swapping parts again.
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Just for fun... I removed the battery from one of my replacement suitcases. I waited a few minutes and swapped that one in.
IT'S BOOTING UP! I have an EVO screen... I'll post back in a few minutes...
Question for Ted... If I want to swap back to my Blazing 7's... do I just change the game chip and CD? Or do I have to do a clear?
Well I better see if this works first...
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Is j6 progressive if so he has a progressive unit in his machine.
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It is a progressive machine...
It's boots up to a GAME DISABLED PRINTER FAULT error.
Not sure where to go at this point. I want to put the Blazing 7's game back in.
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Its booting now?? OK open door and turn reset key. go to menu and enable game. If this doesn't work you need to do a complete CLEAR and reprogram the slot.
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I want to put back Blazing 7's back in it. Should I just do that now...change the game chip, install the CD and then do the clear?
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THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT !!! Be careful how you plug in CLEAR chip and Game chip. It must go to the bottom of the socket or you fry it. See how the game chip in the board I sent you is located.
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Do you have the CLEAR instructions for the machine. It can be downloaded from NLG. Don't worry about the progressive part of this until you get the slot up and running. It operates independent from the slot. Reprograming it is a whole new ballgame.
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Yes... I've always been careful with my chips! Some sockets in my Bally Game maker are larger than the chip.
So I will do the clear... then replace with the Blazing 7's chip and install the game CD. I assume I can put the CD when I do the clear.
I do have a sheet showing the set up configurations.
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CD must be in the machine to do a CLEAR. Its been a while since I have CLEARED an EVO machine. Maybe vtyler can help you out with that too.
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One other thing--If your getting a printer error then the printer is not functioning. It could be because it is the wrong printer for the setup or it is not hooked up correctly or it is not pushed completely back into its cradle or ???..... I would run the setup and tell it there is no printer for now. Setup on this takes some time and you cannot disable the printer if you get an error when your done with setup without doing another CLEAR on this slot. Slot will not run with printer error. Just my thought on this.
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Forgot to say... there is no printer - just a hopper. Sorry about that. If it's like my Game Maker... I can tell it "no printer" during set up.
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Bally instructions say to put clear chip in U78. Ones from NLG say to put it on U85!
WHERE the heck does it go?
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UPDATE: I put it in U85 and it's working so far.
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Just pick one and DO IT!!! You are not going to hurt anything!!!
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So far looks good but now it's stuck in DEMO mode.
I entered a serial number of 1's and the next setting (?) I entered 1's
Out of demo mode now, but there's a back box in the upper left:
BILL ACCEPTOR: NO ERRORS
NO PRINTER
HOST COMM: LINK DOWN
Won't work yet.
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Refer to the settings you have for your GameMaker. You need to set SAS, Validation, and Vocher settings the same. Comm Link is down because settings aren't correct for standalone.
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I thought I did them correctly since most looked familiar! Dang.
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glad to see your got it mostly working. at least now the people that know abought these things can help you get it the rest of the way.
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I have VALIDATION TYPE set to SYSTEM
I think it's supposed to be NONE
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Did we NOT send you the settings when you were dealing with your GameMaker?
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:duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh:
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ok I did another clear and configured settings.
The CV slot version said JRCM control set at operator and the EVO settings from (someone here) NLG said SAS
I set it for operator.
I'm getting the same black box but with HOST COMM: LINK UP
But the black box is just staying there. It did boot up before and I heard the DBV make the grinding noise.
It won't accept anything... yet. Do I have to wait more?
UPDATE: opened the door, checked settings, closed door. Now it says
HOST COMM: LINK DOWN
On the top left of the screen it says "power reset door open logic"
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Attached are my settings for an EVO video slot. This was setup for TITO but it should work without it. Hope it helps
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logic open error means the microswitch on the suitcase is not in lock position. There are two micorswitches on suitcase and one on the game board on the top. I don't remember which has to be open and which closed. If you are using locks on the suitcase then the locks must be closed otherwise you set the switches by moving spade lugs to simulate the lock position. Slot will not operate unless this is done. Try the settings in the attached sheet to see if you can eliminate the COMM LINK error. TJ
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The two microswitches above the suitcase are tied closed. The old suitcase had no locks. The new suitcase does have locks but I have no keys. Regardless... I'm assuming that means the working suitcase is set for one or both switches to be open. Should I just cut the wire ties on both and see what happens.
Thanks also for the settings.
Sorry one thing always leads to another question... my machine is a progressive...I have no idea how that sent data to the top box but, if I change my settings, should I enable progressive? Probably a dumb question... :sorry:
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Do not cut the wires as one of these switches is open and the other closed. If they are tied closed to simulate locking then that should be OK. It could be a settings thing too. The progressive in the top is not an easy thing to set up. I am no expert on it but I do know you need to make a harness to set it and also you need software and a computer with a serial port to set it up. I have set these up before but it has been quit some time ago. You need to find someone on here who knows more about it than I do to get it going. The slot will run without the progressive setup. I would just unplug the power to it for now. I think the J6 plug you removed from the backplane is for the progressive. A simple solution to getting the progressive going is to remove the box and send it t someone to set it up for you. As far as logic door error, I would do another CLEAR and see if the settings I sent you work.
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No... I won't cut the wires... but the wire TIES holding them closed. I think it could be those switches. The display showing the open door changes when I open the belly glass door - it lights up a lower portion. When I open the main door, it lights up all the top from the middle upward. But when I close that main door, the middle remains light - like it's indicating an inner "door."
But first - I'll try your settings later this morning when I get home. :applause:
This machine was already set up for the progressive display to do something. The previous owner said it worked when he played the machine. I did find a completely dead lithium battery in it though, which I replaced.
I'll report back.
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Okay the settings were okay... I had used your sheet (tjlee) before I knew you.
I unclipped both wire ties to the switches and got the same black box but now with
Door open
CD LOGIC (something like that)
I retied the CD door microswitch and now have
Door open: logic
I'm wondering if those switches needed resetting? I'll wire tie the other one and see what happens.
UPDATE:
no change... I get the same DOOR OPEN: LOGIC message... did not...
So, the CD switch DID create a new error when opened and the other switch remained the same, whether closed or opened. Hmmm
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Attached you will find two pictures of the switches in the suitcase bay. Both are wired correctly to bypass them. Do not use a wire tie on these wired like this and make sure they don't activate when putting the suitcase in the bay.
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I redid the wires exactly as pictured and got the same result DOOR OPEN MAIN LOGIC
Just for the hell of it, I pressed the micro switch on the right side. Nothing changed. But on the left side the CD icon came up. So I know that switch is working. Not sure where to go now.
Update (again!)
I just realized that the top MPU has a microswitch... stand by!
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:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: GOT A WORKING MACHINE :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:
I pressed the top microswitch in and the error went away and the machine rebooted with no errors... just main door open. So I wired tied the upper switch, rebooted and it's working perfectly...well the machine takes bills but not coins. Not sure what's up with that.
THANK YOU to tjlee and vtyler for your incredible help and patience! And thanks to CV slots for the moral support as well!
And now to program that upper progressive box! I will start a new thread for that.
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glad to hear it, i have only ever setup a mikohn on an s2000.
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Here's a picture of the whole thing!
I got the CC to work - I had to do another clear and change my settings to "COIN ACCEPTOR AND COD BOARD."