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Title: Bally's 809-E
Post by: capt7310 on November 22, 2016, 07:11:21 AM
Hey everyone, quick question I keep coming across these non-working Bally's for cheap prices (because they don't work) in hopes of getting them up and running. This guy is selling this Bally's 809-E4 nickel machine it's a nice looking machine and semi-works only because he says that one of the electronic boards had a battery leak and he removed the battery and did nothing else. So is it something to look into for a 100 bucks again my luck hasn't been that good in getting them up and running. Jon has been awesome giving me help as well as David, but is this another cart away someone's garbage or a possible fix to replace the battery.
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: The Fatman on November 22, 2016, 10:54:34 AM
The pic does not look like an 809 ... if it has a circuit board, its either an e1000 or e2000 series machine. If this machine has a board in it, look to see if there is a ram board attached to it ( daughter board with battery) if so, the machine is a e1000 series. The newer e2000 has got rid of that board and the rams have been incorporated into the newer board. The e1000 machines typically have issus with that ram board, broken pins causing bad connections. I have had one for over 6 months and have given up on it until I can send the boards off to someone with the proper testing equipment.
Hope this helps ... show us the inside of the machine if you can. Might just be a replacement cabinet or someone replaced the ID plate to make it look like an older machine to get around the law restrictions.
Dave F
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: The Fatman on November 22, 2016, 11:00:17 AM
Also.... on the e1000 machines the battery is basically used to retain bookeeping memory. Good chance it is a E 1224 model
Dave F
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: Amechanic on November 22, 2016, 11:08:22 AM
That's most likely a E1000. Look closely at the ram board on the MPU for acid damage to the ram board and to its connector. If the pin header are bad those can be replaced. If the small ram boards damage then I might say away just because those ram boards are hard to find.


Gary
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: capt7310 on November 22, 2016, 04:04:42 PM
Here are some more pics and I did look it up and I think someone put a sticker on the side that shows 809-E4. I think this is a stay away. Thanks guys
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: The Fatman on November 22, 2016, 05:22:15 PM
It is missing the ram board on the CPU .... stay away is a good choice unless he will take 10$ just to have you haul it off. Then you can strip it down and sell the parts that are usable.
Dave F
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: Amechanic on November 22, 2016, 05:58:31 PM
Dave,  The Ram boards there. The battery has been removed. The pin header closest to the battery has green corrosion but the boards traces look good and un damaged. The machine actually looks clean inside. I would take a chance on it. That edge connector can be replaced.
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: The Fatman on November 22, 2016, 07:24:39 PM
Time for me to get glasses. All I saw was the connectors and by the angle, it just looked like it was missing. Thanks for the update, I enlarged it and there it was. But ... it is a handful if you dont have a working machine to test boards out.... I am staying with the EMs unless I get a real bargan on a E machine. Still am leary. Only a few people I know are excellent at them ... Barry Fox and a person at NLG.
Dave F
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: GOS on November 23, 2016, 02:56:51 AM
glasses may be needed by others as well - look to the left of picture 1 of the mpu - the board has massive acid damage.  everyone seems to be looking at the ram board - widen your horizens - the board is toast.
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: capt7310 on November 23, 2016, 03:05:03 AM
Thank you all it's a stay away. Issued Solved
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: capt7310 on November 23, 2016, 03:05:42 AM
Topic Solved
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: Amechanic on November 23, 2016, 11:52:12 AM
Thanks GOS. I stand corrected. I didn't look at the lower corner of that board.
Title: Re: Bally's 809-E
Post by: RiseLikeRa on November 24, 2016, 07:15:00 AM
I was warned by several people when I got the EM bug to stay away from the E games.  I took heed.  Now for a few bucks the glass and many of the parts could be used on an older machine.  If you have the space it might be a good donor piece.


My 2 cents


Ra
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