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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT Fortune 1 Sircoma/Poker => Topic started by: topache on July 22, 2018, 07:55:11 PM
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Hello all. I just acquired a $0.05 IGT video draw poker 1986 machine. I would love to update to $0.25, does anyone know what parts and where I can find them to make this happen? FYI $0.25 won't even fit into the little slot.....
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I think you would need to show a few photos of the game to be sure. One of the outside and one of the inner door. At least you would need to change/modify the coin head, maybe the accepter and the coin shelf on the hopper. Also, the denomination decals. This may also include a few tweaking of parts depending on the model of game.
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I would also think you should keep the parts - and sell as a 5c conversion kit. They are rare.
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.....I think you would need to show a few photos of the game to be sure. One of the outside and one of the inner door.....
Yes, we need to make sure what model of machine you have (PE, PE+, Fortune II, etc). So post a photo of it and of the mpu board for identification.
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Sorry. Here's one
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you have a fortune 1 poker machine. the coin mech can be changed to a 25 mechanical acceptor or an Imonex 25 cent. the coin head would have to be replaced or filed. the coin head may be hard to come by, to file, people usually will tape two hacksaw blades together and then run them in to the opening, shaving enough off so a quarter will pass through. you have to be careful when doing this so you will not scratch the surface of the top coin head. as for the hopper, a better picture is needed to see the distance between the tips on the pinwheel, ( this is to determine if a quarter will fit between them) then you wouldn't have to replace it. then you would only need a shelf wheel, and reposition the knife.
I have all the parts you would need.
Jim
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Oh wow. Thank you so much for the reply and help. It almost seems easier than I thought. What about changing the denomination on the screen from $0.05 to $0.25. Do I need a chip for that or is it as simple as a jumper or dip switch?
How much for the parts to be shipped to 06082?
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If you don't want to open up your coin head there has been a 25¢ coin head on fleabay. Just search IGT 701. Not mine but, I thought I would point it out.
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very cool. thanks for that info! not too badly priced. I may go that option.
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To change your door legend from 5c to 25c is easy. They are usually taped to the door glass from the inside. This game doesn’t need to be reprogrammed when you make the change to 25c. No jumper to move or chips to change.
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My machine doesn't State $0.05 anywhere except for on the actual screen which is controlled by some switch or chip or something, otherwise how would it know?
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There's a jumper box (IC shaped) switch on the MPU board where you can change denomination. You might have to play around with the jumpers to get the correct configuration. If you're lucky someone may have replaced it with a DIP switch.
I still need to change mine to 25¢ as it is a conversion as well.
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Ok. Your correct. I’m so use to the Bally games.
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Based on Jim's identification of the machine I've moved this discussion to the IGT Fortune 1 area. (everyone can continue posting messages as normal).
topache- here is the link to the NLG Fortune 1 area, in case you want to read other Fortune 1 discussions, they may have helpful information about your machine:
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=65.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=65.0)
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it appears my board doesn't have any jumpers nor dip switchs?
Does that seem correct?
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There may have been different versions of the mpu board over time. Please post a good photo of it from above, showing the entire top of the circuit board. If it has an IGT part number on it then post that also.
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how's this?
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Photo looks pretty good, did you find a part number for the board written on it somewhere? It may be something like "757 014 00". Below is a page showing game options that can be set by adding jumpers to the board at location D8. This might be what shortrackskater was referring to in reply#11. You can see that the board has reference letters written along one edge of the board, and reference numbers written on the adjacent edge of the board. You use these to find where row D and column 8 intersect to find board location D8. In your photo it looks like there is an empty socket at board location D8. So you could install a dipswitch, it would just press into that empty socket. Maybe someone more familiar than I am can say more about these jumpers for options.
Keep in mind these options may depend on the game software installed in the machine, which are the socketed chips that have labels on the top. Documents and information can be scarce for these older machines. If you add a dipswitch at the D8 socket you can try different settings to see what effect they have. I think on older video poker machines the normal game was not Jacks or Better, that came along later, so you had to have 2 pair or higher to win (*I think*). Check back here often to see if someone that knows these machines better has added information.
Does your machine work ok now using nickels? Does it do credits, or are wins paid immediately from hopper?
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Here is a partial parts diagram for the coin head, the part number listing gives the part number for a quarter coin entry if you decide to look for one instead of filing yours larger.
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my location a D8 is just an empty socket, see pic. I've also attached some numbers not sure if that helps. Man I would love to have credit mode as well that would be neat. I have jacks or better currently.
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my location a D8 is just an empty socket, see pic. I've also attached some numbers not sure if that helps. Man I would love to have credit mode as well that would be neat. I have jacks or better currently.
I don't think that is the D8 location. See my photo I added earlier and here:
EDIT - yes, location D8 is a socket, no chip installed in it, that is where the options jumpers would get installed. Your photo in prev post shows the labels of the game software, perhaps someone can identify it and say what options it supports. There are other video poker software chips you can install.
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my location a D8 is just an empty socket, see pic. I've also attached some numbers not sure if that helps. Man I would love to have credit mode as well that would be neat. I have jacks or better currently.
According to the jumper options sheet (posted earlier) you would add a jumper across the empty socket from pin 2 to pin 15 to get Credit Mode. You can do this with a short piece of solid wire, not too large gauge. Can slip each end down into the socket contacts. Or if you add a dipswitch you would simply flip dip#2 to ON. You would need to get a dipswitch that is the correct width and length as the socket at D8.
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I see your point however since nothing is there it's all open and according to that sheet it should be at $0.25 then? As I currently have jacks or better and coin mode.
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I see your point however since nothing is there it's all open and according to that sheet it should be at $0.25 then? As I currently have jacks or better and coin mode.
That's correct, that's why I said the jumper options may depend on the game software installed and that you'd probably have to try different jumpers to see what your machine's options are. They made several different versions of video poker for the Fortune 1, you will be lucky to find a document for your exact game software. On the game software in your machine no jumper might select 10 cents and adding a jumper selects 25 cents or 5 cents, for example.
There aren't that many jumper options offered, and credit mode is another setting you are interested in. The jumper for denomination of the game probably varied in what it does from game software to software. But hopefully the jumper for Credit Mode stayed the same since that would be something common to all game software. So trying one jumper for Credit Mode wouldn't be difficult, you can always remove it if it doesn't work.
The jumper options sheet shows that the jumper from pin 3 to pin 14 sets the denomination. So jumpering that may change it from the current 5 cent setting to something else, perhaps 25 cents. It all depends on how the game software that is in the machine now interprets the jumper block.
If you can read the labels on the socketed eproms that might give the game software name and version numbers, might be able to find out something that way. If it turns out that the jumper options don't give you the 25 cent option that you want you may be able to replace the game software with chips that are for 25 cent Jacks or Better.
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You need one of these.
This is a 16 pin Dip Switch
Simply plug and play
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Credit mode can only be accomplished by putting in different 000-7FF and 800-FFF chips.
But if your button panel does not have bet max, cashout, and bet one buttons you would need to replace that also.
Put a 8 position DIP switch in at D8 and flip individual switches on till you find 25c.
Leave the switch in.
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here is some information on this subject. Jim
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Thank you everyone for your help. I just got my dip switch in today and closed #3 and it went from $0.05 to $1. So my guess is that my machine is programmed for $0.05 and it's going to take a chip to change it to $0.25.... Bummer
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Did you try any other switche combinations?
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Thank you everyone for your help. I just got my dip switch in today and closed #3 and it went from $0.05 to $1. So my guess is that my machine is programmed for $0.05 and it's going to take a chip to change it to $0.25.... Bummer
$1 setting for denomination would be cool - make it a high roller machine! :cool_thumb_up:
That dipswitch you installed will still be handy, will let you change some of the options, including any options in another software set you may get.
Send a pm to badbaud, he might be able to provide you with another version of Jacks or Better that has the 25 cent denomination. May only have to change out 2 chips. If he doesn't have it I might be able to help, a lot of the older video poker software is available on the MAME websites.
And for credit mode did you try the dipswitch #2 setting for it?
You probably did this, but just to make sure-
For the dipswitch numbers to match up with the jumper settings on the options sheet posted earlier you need to install the dipswitch so that dipswitch position #1 is on the notched end of the socket.
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Ya, I still have my tri voltage programmer.Been slowly reading tri voltage 000-FFF and converting them to single voltage then reading and storing for further reference.That way I can read a single voltage into the box and make a tri voltage.
Not sure if MAME has tri voltage capabilities.
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Do you have a Fortune II Jacks or Better game in 25 cent denom?
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probably
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Were the eproms on that board 2716 or 2516, or something else?
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TMS2716 tri voltage, they required +21, +5, and -5 to operate them.