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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT AVP (Including G20,G23) => Topic started by: TopDogElec on March 03, 2022, 06:14:56 AM
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Looking for 8 dynamic buttons, edge lit. The guy I bought this machine from pretty much screwed me, it came to me with no power supples, everything disconnected and I had to figure out how to piece it back together, and when I finally got it together and booted I came to find out most of the buttons don't work (at least light up). I can get them from Nomad for $50 per but hoping someone has used ones for a bit less if possible.
LEAVING THREAD AS "FAQ" SINCE IT CONTAINS GREAT INFORMATION AND PHOTOS ON THE G23 EDGE LIT BUTTONS.
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What kind of sucks is these new machines have expensive-as-hell buttons.
Those buttons are going up in price as we speak.
I noticed one website was selling them for about $55 bucks apiece and when I just Googled the same website, they're now $72 each!!?? Nutz!
Buying used buttons is like buying used light bulbs?
Don't expect them to last long. :no:
Hopefully, someone will give you a break. :yes:
Have you ever taken a button like yours apart? I haven't.
Can just the LCD display component inside of it be replaced, or is its ribbon cable soldered to the circuit board in there? :scratch-head_2:
If it's not soldered, I can direct you to a website that sells real small display panels.
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Before you start dumping money in buttons do you have an ekey? It sounds like due to the condition you are surely going to need one and may be floored when you see the price of that.
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Stayouttadabunker - No, I'm not sure how to take them apart so I haven't ventured that far. I did move a couple around to see if it was the ribbon cable but no matter where I put them they don't work at all.
Slotman - Yes I bought an ekey from a guy in Michigan, it works great. He accidentally sent me a 9 instead of a 7, I returned the 9 to get the 7. It was expensive yes but necessary. I've already dumped about $700 into this machine just to get it to the point I'm at now. Most likely not going to deal with this guy again, this is the second time he burned me, sold me a Spielo without clear cards and dongles which I had no clue were impossible to find.
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Nomad actually has them in stock for $50? In today’s market that’s a good price. Buying used is a crapshoot at best. They often don’t have the same screen and or edge lit brightness across the set. They can easily end up looking mismatched once installed.
It is a small screen connected to a PCB. They can be unbound but then finding a replacement screen isn’t the easiest thing either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRmLzAzOnE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxRmLzAzOnE)
Above is a youtube video link of somebody at GET-T taking one apart :nerd:....I haven't watched it yet to see what they do. :sherlock:
ugh...I just watched it....they don't show if you can replace the OLED display screen or not. :banghead:
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It is a small screen connected to a PCB. They can be unbound but then finding a replacement screen isn’t the easiest thing either.
Have you tried looking for the small OLED screens here?...>>>
https://www.usmicroproducts.com/product/USMP-P22403 (https://www.usmicroproducts.com/product/USMP-P22403)
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I watched it yes, he makes it look so easy but I’m sure he’s done it a million times. Not as easy as it looks, the tab to remove the lens is a PITA and I gave up because I didn’t want to destroy the plastic housing. I got a great deal on them from Get-t though, the refurbished ones. They have them for $42
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Well, usmicro sells single screens for about $28 bucks each but the only way to know for sure is take a button apart and see if the screen has a short ribbon cable with a non-soldered end.
If the ribbon cable is soldered, or the display panel is "embedded" to the circuit board, then it's a much more complicated job.
I just hope your refurbished $42 dollar buttons last a while. :yes:
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The screens are soldered in
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The screens are soldered in
Ouch! That sucks. Thanks for the info idesign. :cool_thumb_up:
Some guy was selling used, dead ones last week for like $5 apiece here...would of been nice if we could replace /refurbish the screens easily enough.
Oh well...
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The screens are soldered in
Ouch! That sucks. Thanks for the info idesign. :cool_thumb_up:
Some guy was selling used, dead ones last week for like $5 apiece here...would of been nice if we could replace /refurbish the screens easily enough.
Oh well...
That was me. Get-t was offering $5.00 each for dead ones so I figured i would offer the NLG communtity. I had offers within 5 minutes and sold within twenty minutes. There must be someone refurbishing them.
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:rotfl: The saying "one man's junk, is another man's gold"applies here!
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Does anyone know if the above linked screens would work if they could be physically connected?
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GET-T is refurbishing old buttons with a brand new OLED screen, they have been able to source 3rd party ones that work. I don't know if they are have any in stock right now, but they sell DIY screen upgrade kits as well as buttons they have already refurbished.
https://get-t.net/product/lcd-pcb-replacement-kit-for-use-with-igt-dynamic-edgelit-oled-button-kit-gett-part-btn200/
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I see that now, I might just have to make an order. Does anyone know if I can just interchange edge lit and non edge lit? I do know my blackfin has the proper updated firmware, just not sure if they will work or not and would like to upgrade to edge lit.
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Just know that the ones that Get-t will work. The only problem is they are not OEM. When you get them installed you will see that the screen is attached by a ribbon cable that is soldered onto the board. that ribbon cable is not blacked out. the OEM is green and thick. these are not. The light will shine through from the LCD to the button deck. And also the buttons DO NOT DIM like the OEM when you play your game. if you are not OCD then these will work fine. I will post some pics. I ended up just buying OEM after I upgraded a few and did not like them.
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Chris, the replacement (non OEM) does not have the black frame around it in your photo. Did you install it without the frame?
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Chris, the replacement (non OEM) does not have the black frame around it in your photo. Did you install it without the frame?
no it is installed with the frame. the frame comes off to allow you to take off the plastic protector sheet that is on the screen then you put it back on. Its the way they are shipped for protection. It is the way they are made. Get-t is trying to work with the suppliers to update this problem my contact told me.
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Here is another pic of 4 of them installed with the frames. The light comes through the very thin connector cable. One of the screens was broken in transit but just showing light refelcting through on the button deck. The screens are a different brightness also. Not just the words are lighted up, then entire screen is bright. Its just not OEM enought for me. I tried to tape over the connector cable and it worked for about 15 mins then the tape started coming off an light came through again. Get-t's partners is working for a solution from what I am told. I was also told to try liquid electrical tape just to cover the thin cable but never got around to it. I just ended up getting new OEM buttons
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Here are a few pics so you can compare side by side. They are fine replacements if you want them dont get me wrong. I just didn't like them. The 2nd and 3rd pics are NEW OEM
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Just a heads up, if you purchase GETT's " new" dynamic buttons. What they will actually ship is used buttons with these new non matching displays in them. I had a rather testy email exchange with them about this in which i likened it to selling a "new" car and when you show up it has a 100,000 miles on it but a new engine. Not the same thing.
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Just a heads up, if you purchase GETT's " new" dynamic buttons. What they will actually ship is used buttons with these new non matching displays in them. I had a rather testy email exchange with them about this in which i likened it to selling a "new" car and when you show up it has a 100,000 miles on it but a new engine. Not the same thing.
True, they really should say "new OLED display" instead of just "new".
To their credit, I bought a lot of these from them and I am happy with them. Considering dynamic buttons with readable displays are getting harder & harder to find, I am glad they are offering these. I had about 25 buttons on my machines that were almost completely black, with others getting worse by the day, and couldn't find any decent replacements.
I would much rather have a bright, visible display than a black/unreadable display, even if they aren't exactly like the OEM buttons. It is true the display looks a little different than OEM, and they don't respond to the "dim" command (for example when the reels are spinning), but it's worth it to have bright displays.
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According to their website New Edge Lit Buttons BTN100 are $72.00. Refurb edge Lit buttons BTN114 are $42.00. The LCD replacement kit BTN200 is $46.80.
So are you saying the new edge lit buttons BTN100 are really refurb buttons BTN114? If so, why not just buy the refurb ones for $24 less/button? And why would you buy the screen kit and do the work yourself when the refurb button is cheaper :Scratch-Head: It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Am I missing something?
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That is exactly why i was not happy. I paid more specifically to get what i thought would be a new igt buttons. Instead i got refurbished buttons with displays that didnt match my oem buttons and had scratched lenses.
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:I_agree_1: I would be very pissed off if they sent me those. :hissyfit:
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You got that right. I'd be pissed off too.
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Chris, in your photo in Reply #21, it certainly appears to me that the OLED screens that they supplied you are the wrong wattage/voltage and resolution...that would be why they are look to be too bright and somewhat washed out.
The only thing correct about them possibly, is the size.
I would have been pissed to get that bad of a display for the price they're charging. :talktothehand:
That's too bad. :no:
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Chris, in your photo in Reply #21, it certainly appears to me that the OLED screens that they supplied you are the wrong wattage/voltage and resolution...that would be why they are look to be too bright and somewhat washed out.
The only thing correct about them possibly, is the size.
I would have been pissed to get that bad of a display for the price they're charging. :talktothehand:
That's too bad. :no:
It’s just how they are made unfortunately. They are cheap knock offs. I mean they serve their purpose. If I was a casino in an environment that has thousands of these buttons that needed replaced I would not care. Get-t services a lot of casinos. But for my home slot I just don’t like them. I paid 39.00 for them and I got new ones for 60.00 from patriot gaming. The ones in my machine had a date code of 2011 so they lasted 10 years. I spent 900 to replace but they should probably last the life of the machine since they don’t run 24/7. It’s just a lot of money upfront to do it.
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It is a lot of money just for deck buttons.
Anyways, the proof is on the back of the OLED displays themselves - that's where the model of the particular display they're using, is imprinted on.
I've changed out several displays on the WMS BB2 button decks.
It took me a couple of orders from Taiwan to get the exact right "OEM look" I wanted before Covid hit the U.S.
At that time, it was like only about $3 bucks per display screen before they made us buy/purchase from a USA distributor such as https://www.usmicroproducts.com/ (https://www.usmicroproducts.com/)
Now the price for these displays is like 7 times higher than before.
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I found the company that makes the OEM displays. It’s just the display. So you would have to be excellent at soldering they are tiny connections. But I cannot get a response from them
https://indigotechnology.online/product/button-oled-panel-igt-dynamic-button-panel/
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The company I was talking to a few years ago...used to be $3 bucks per display...wish I had money. :banghead:
Here's a link...>>>
https://www-ritdisplay-com.translate.goog/zh/?_x_tr_sl=zh-TW&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc
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Thanks for the info. Where did you get the new IGT buttons? Thanks
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I did get a reply from that ritdisplay site, they have no stock and offered no info on any restock.
Edit—— my fault it was the indigo technology site NOT ritdisplay.
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Not sure if you were asking me or someone else but I got mine from Get-t.net. But I’m sure some of the great vendors here in NLG have them also if you ask around
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I ended up getting OEMs from skygaming. 60.00 there
https://skygamingparts.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2393
Edit: They are now 75.00 shortage I guess in the IGT world
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Inflation.... :hissyfit: :banghead:
From the webpage...>>>
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Saw them on Alibaba for like 8 dollars a piece minimum 10. Not sure if they are the exact same, they say IGT dyanamic buttons.
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Saw them on Alibaba for like 8 dollars a piece minimum 10. Not sure if they are the exact same, they say IGT dyanamic buttons.
I saw that...they cannot be real for that price...or they're all burned out??
A link to the website you'e talking about...>>>
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/IGT-Edge-Lit-Dynamic-Button_1600272124128.html (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/IGT-Edge-Lit-Dynamic-Button_1600272124128.html)
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They quoted US$70 each for the buttons on Alibaba. I actually thought they were just selling the top lens or something for the price. I asked for pictures from each side, and a quote for a sample lot of 20.
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That Robert quote me the same price per button, but for 50 pcs.
I declined.
Watch me regret this...lol :rotfl:
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That Robert quote me the same price per button, but for 50 pcs.
I declined.
Watch me regret this...lol :rotfl:
Robert quoted me $65 US for those buttons.
I didn't ask for a quote, I asked if they were actually Edge Lit Dynamic Buttons like found on an IGT G23 cabinet. Never got a definitive answer? We must have a communication barrier. My English must not be so good? :24: I even used Google translate. Who knows if maybe I insulted him?
He did send this attached pic.
I stay away from these sources just because I don't understand how they work. Why post 5.00 - 8.00 when they want 65.00 to 70.00 actual?
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:Professor: If it sounds too good to be true - it usually is. :rotfl: