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How to get backlight reel lights working?
« on: April 16, 2023, 12:52:24 AM »
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As my work to “perfect” my improvements to my collection of Splus machines is coming near completion, I am starting to plan what I can do to “perfect” my one S2000 3 reel w/4th bonus reel machine. Loooongninto adding Tito printer so I’m learning about that.

My question is, what are my options to add backlite reeks to is? Is there any? What does it take?
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2023, 05:19:13 AM »
It should already have backlit reels if it is a bonus reel game.

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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2023, 04:44:37 PM »
It should already have backlit reels if it is a bonus reel game.
Yes upon further inspection it does have the BL reels and at least a few of the bulbs meter out good, but nothing is happening. The 3 reel strips are not backlit so i want to order the correct ones from sunkist but want to make sure the BL Lights work since strips are pricey. What do i need to look for or trace to figure out why they arent coming on even though they would be ineffective?

Perhaps someone turned them off or unplugged somehow?
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2023, 05:03:19 PM »
The backlite controller is located to the right of the bell if it has either.

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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2023, 05:14:16 PM »
The backlite controller is located to the right of the bell if it has either.
No bell.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2023, 05:15:07 PM »
The backlite controller is located to the right of the bell if it has either.

This?
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2023, 05:49:16 PM »
Below that and behind the BV:

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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2023, 06:00:54 PM »
Below that and behind the BV:
This? I do see a few empty sockets and one harness that appears to have a bypass on it.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2023, 07:04:14 PM »
Yep, that's it.

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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2023, 10:00:58 PM »
Yep, that's it.
So now what do I do to make them work? Are their harnesses misfits g or disconnected? What about that one that has the bypass on it?
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2023, 08:45:33 AM »
The reel harness that has mostly yellow wires on it and with the bypass plug with the single powder blue wire is bypassing an extra reel.

Clear the wires hanging down over that backlight driver board on the backwall, and take another picture so we can see all of the connector headers on the circuit board.
You might have the wrong type of backlighting controller board.

There are two versions.
One is for the newer style LED bulbs.
The other board is for incandescent lamps....the older style light bulbs.

The bulbs in your reels behind the reelstrips, are they LEDs or incandescent bulbs?

Below are a couple different types of backlight driver boards.
You can see they have different headers on the boards.
That's why I need to see a better picture than the one you took.
If you take a poor photo, that doesn't help us, help you.
Make a good effort to take the best picture possible.
Click on photo below to enlarge if needed...>>>
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2023, 09:02:10 AM »
The reel harness that has mostly yellow wires on it and with the bypass plug with the single powder blue wire is bypassing an extra reel.

Clear the wires hanging down over that backlight driver board on the backwall, and take another picture so we can see all of the connector headers on the circuit board.
You might have the wrong type of backlighting controller board.

There are two versions.
One is for the newer style LED bulbs.
The other board is for incandescent lamps....the older style light bulbs.

The bulbs in your reels behind the reelstrips, are they LEDs or incandescent bulbs?

Below are a couple different types of backlight driver boards.
Click on photo to enlarge if needed...>>>
Ok I’ll get a pic in a moment…but yes the bulbs that are on the reels are incandescent.  Also it should be noted that this is a 4th bonus reel machine. The 4th reel does have backlights too but does have LEDs on a display that goes around the reel window so not sure if that will impact anything. It works fine but backlights on the 4th reel don’t.
 
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2023, 09:13:45 AM »
The pic I posted was from a machine with the 4th bonus reel.  It does not have a LED controller, you need LED panel reels for that controller.  I have two of them setup, both work correct including the LED ring.  I use LED bulbs on other three reels. LED bulbs will not work with LED controller, only the LED panel reels will work with it.  Not sure if the LED ring works with LED controller, I know it works without it.

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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2023, 09:14:54 AM »
The 4th bonus reel that's NOT being used is why it has the blue jumper plug on the reel harness...it's jumping the doubled, green ground wires in the Molex connector housing.

6,14,8,12 are the number of pins for the four headers you need to have on the board.
In the photo above I posted in Reply #11, it would be the 1st board.
That board would work for your incandescent lamps.
The 3 plugs on top of the controller board run to the harness that runs behind the reel shelf on the back wall of your machine.
The plug on the left side of the board runs to the I/O board that's hanging on the side of your MPU enclosure.

The 2nd board in my photo is for the 4th bonus reel ring and the newer LED reelstrip backlighting.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2023, 09:31:01 AM »
The 4th bonus reel that's NOT being used is why it has the blue jumper plug on the reel harness...it's jumping the doubled, green ground wires in the Molex connector housing.

6,14,8,12 are the number of pins for the four headers you need to have on the board.
In the photo above I posted in Reply #11, it would be the 1st board.
That board would work for your incandescent lamps.

The 2nd board in my photo is for the 4th bonus reel ring and the newer LED reelstrip backlighting.
So I am a little bit confused on what you wrote but looking at the pictures it seems like I have the board that you show on the right. In your writings, you stated that it’s for the fourth bonus real but with LED reel lights. I’m wondering if you think that’s the problem is that the lights that are in it should be LED instead for it to work? Again, my game is a fourth bonus reel.

I appreciate your help in trying to figure this out as I would surely like to get them to work so I can get the right reel strips 
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2023, 09:36:08 AM »
No...the driver board you have on your backwall will work for incandescent lamps.
It's another driver board version I don't have a good photo of.
It has black Molex headers on it...like yours.
Someone before you had already changed the 4th reel game to a simpler 3 reel game....that's why they put the blue jumper in.

You should have three plugs free on the back of your reel shelf.
Those go into the top three headers on the backlight controller/driver board.
The 14-pin  header on the left side of the controller board runs back with a separate harness to the I/O card that hangs on the wall of your MPU enclosure.

BTW what game are you trying to install that uses backlit strips?
If you're trying to make this a 4th reel bonus game, them you have to remove the blue jumper plug and plug it into the 4th reel connecter.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2023, 09:44:09 AM »
No...the driver board you have on your backwall will work for incandescent lamps.
It's another driver board version I don't have a good photo of.
It has black Molex headers on it...like yours.
Someone before you had already changed the 4th reel game to a simpler 3 reel game....that's why they put the blue jumper in.

You should have three plugs free on the back of your reel shelf.
Those go into the top three headers on the backlight controller/driver board.
The 14-pin  header on the left side of the controller board runs back with a separate harness to the I/O card that hangs on the wall of your MPU enclosure.

BTW what game are you trying to install that uses backlit strips?
If you're trying to make this a 4th reel bonus game, them you have to remove the blue jumper plug and plug it into the 4th reel connecter.
I’m not trying to install any new game. I just noticed that I had backlit reels, and now I want to make use of them. I’ll post a picture of my game.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2023, 09:51:20 AM »
I would buy the 4th bonus reel from sixcardmark and any harnesses/boards needed.
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Re: Add backlight reels?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2023, 10:04:55 AM »
I would buy the 4th bonus reel from sixcardmark and any harnesses/boards needed.
That’s my whole question to begin with is what am I missing or need to get my lights to work. The game runs just fine as it is but I would like to have the extra special look of the backlit reels.
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Re: How to get backlight reel lights working?
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2023, 01:49:37 PM »
Only the ring of lights on the 4th bonus reel has LED bulbs.
You need a controller like the one sixcardmark pictured.
Remove the blue jumper plug and plug the harness into the 4th reel.
If you don't have three free connectors behind the reel shelf, you need the harnessing for the driver board too.
You might also need the harness that runs back to the MPU enclosure I/O board if you don't have that.
Plug 'em all into the driver board and you're done.



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