S Plus guts gone

[Badbaud]

Pretty glass, but they should have looked inside before buying it.
I could use some help determining what SS number this game should have as my searches through the databases have not given me a clue

[Stayouttadabunker]

2CBP has always had a problem in the S+ Bible.
I don't know why?
But yeah...that 2CBP DoubleDollar/5Bar/Cherry is a real oddball game...I've rarely seen them.

Closest I see but isn't it is in the 2CM ages of the Bible...>>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Jackpot-T%20Bar-Cherry%20(2%20Coin%20.htm

[sixcardmark]

That is not a 2 coin BAP. It is a 2CM.

[Badbaud]

It is a 2 coin, bar 5, cherry, dollar emblem. I looked up the reel 1 tape number and did not see the game description listed.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Hmm...It doesn't look like a "multiplier" game SCM?
It would say so on the award glass....but I can't make the picture larger/clearer to see. 

I think I actually have it in storage but I have way too much glass to sort thru at 11PM on the east coast...lol

[sixcardmark]

Why not?  Awards are same for 1 coin to 2 coin except double.  BAP would be totally different.

[Stayouttadabunker]

I agree with you SCM.
What I meant to say is that when it's a multiplier game, it usually says so on the awards glass?
Such as "2x" and "4x"    or    "5x" and "10x" for example?

[sixcardmark]

I think it's just a 2cm Double Dollar/5 Bar/Cherry showing what it pays with the doublers.

[knagl]

What I meant to say is that when it's a multiplier game, it usually says so on the awards glass?
Such as "2x" and "4x"    or    "5x" and "10x" for example?

I think you're misunderstanding what a "coin multiplier" (CM) game is versus a Buy-A-Pay (BAP).

Not all coin multiplier games have a multiplier symbol like Double Diamond or Five Times Pay. A "coin multiplier" game just means that the paytable values increase by the number of coins played multiplied by the base paytable (sometimes with a larger jackpot for the top award on max coins played).

For example, here's a 3 coin multiplier game (even though there's no multiplier symbols on the paytable) -- all of the awards are simply multiples of how many coins are played:

[sixcardmark]

   With a BAP some symbols are worthless until you play (buy) a 2nd or 3rd (even a 4th) coin.

[knagl]

I think it's just a 2cm Double Dollar/5 Bar/Cherry showing what it pays with the doublers.

You are exactly correct. Excellent observation. I'm not sure I would have even caught that.


Badbaud: this is your game (just with an alternate glass that spells out the payouts more, as sixcardmark figured out):
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Dollar-5%20Bar-Cherry%20(2%20Coin%20M.htm

[Badbaud]

Thanks, that looks like a good starting point, onward to the brains

[Stayouttadabunker]

I wrote a note to Shorttrackskater to see if he or someone could fix the 2CBP sheets in the S+ Bible on the Homepage?
Maybe you could look at it Kev?

This is a link to it...>>>

http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CBP/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus.htm


Although I totally agree with you guys, I always thought that a true CM game could multiply awards even if played with a single coin.

A BAP game cannot do that....you would have to add coins to be eligible for the doubled awards in a separate column?

[knagl]

I wrote a note to Shorttrackskater to see if he or someone could fix the 2CBP sheets in the S+ Bible on the Homepage?
Maybe you could look at it Kev?

The files are missing for some reason, and that's why we get a blank page when clicking on the link. I don't know who originally created the bible or if they might still have the files that belong in that folder?

Although I totally agree with you guys, I always thought that a true CM game could multiply awards even if played with a single coin.

If the game is one that has a multiplier symbol (like Double Diamond or Five Times Pay), yes, even a single coin bet can have a payout multiplied if the special symbol lands as part of a winning combination. Again, the "coin multiplier" terminology has nothing to do with whether or not there's a multiplier symbol in the game. It simply means that every payout is a multiple of the number of coins wagered. If a cherry pays 5 with a 1-coin bet, it would pay 10 with a 2-coin bet, 15 with a 3-coin bet, etc.

A BAP game cannot do that....you would have to add coins to be eligible for the doubled awards in a separate column?

What makes a game a "buy-a-pay" game is if there are award categories that are only eligible if the coin(s) for those awards have been played. As such, you have to "buy" different payouts.

Take a look at Sizzling 7s. If you only play one coin, you won't get paid anything if you land three red 7s. You have to "buy" payouts for red sevens by playing at least two coins.

[Stayouttadabunker]

While a 3CM game, like the very popular Double Diamond, has in the 3rd column a top award payout of 2500 credits - instead of 2400.
Although not an exact multiple of 3, but so what right? It's still a "multiplier"...but I see what you mean...lol

I do hope someone finds the chip that Badbaud needs!

[a69mopar]

I thought Rick Hunter did the bible.  I could be wrong of course, just ask my wife, she will vouch for that. 

[Badbaud]

While a 3CM game, like the very popular Double Diamond, has in the 3rd column a top award payout of 2500 credits - instead of 2400.
Although not an exact multiple of 3, but so what right? It's still a "multiplier"...but I see what you mean...lol

I do hope someone finds the chip that Badbaud needs!

I found them in my box of saved chips.

[Stayouttadabunker]

Badbaud: this is your game (just with an alternate glass that spells out the payouts more, as sixcardmark figured out):
http://www.newlifegames.net/igtbible/IGT%202CM/Game%20Library%20-%20S-Plus%20-%20Double%20Dollar-5%20Bar-Cherry%20(2%20Coin%20M.htm

It's close but that chip might NOT work.
The ss3202 does not have the 2nd award programmed into the REEL prom.
The award of 400 credits is not listed in the programmed awards.

ss3208, 3209, 3210
as well as ss3085, 3043 and 3239 may work and DO have the award of 400 programmed in the file.

***Update***

Although the 400 award isn't in the programming, it is in the tests.

[sixcardmark]

Double - Double - 5bar = 400

[Stayouttadabunker]

I agree with you SCM.
That's one of three possible ways to win that 400 award.
Look at the SS3202, it's not in there...either a typo or programming error