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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => CEI and Cal Omega Video Poker Games => Topic started by: mack505 on March 21, 2018, 02:26:53 PM
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Can anyone help me identify this machine? It seems to have been operated by United Coin, but I can't find any other detail inside the machine.
I'm trying to find a manual/schematic for it. It is giving an error message "bad test bytes at 4998" . I have a rom burner, but no idea where to find the roms, figured I'd start with identifying it, heh.
Any help/direction would be greatly appreciated. TIA!
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It might be a CDS machine. The belly glass is obviously not correct. There should be an identification plate in the machine, or on the side.
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The plate might have been removed. Here is a pic of the board.
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It's a CEI running United Coin software, I believe. I recognize the 906III turbo board and the KAR board in the back.
I have a manual at home that might be close although machine is a "multi-game," different from just single poker.
I'll check when I get home. Another member may chime in soon on this. :yes:
For starters... did the machine work before?
And either way, ensure all the IC's are securely in their sockets. Look for any dirty contacts on the back plane (motherboard) and on the MPU board. Then plug it back in and see what happens.
Measure the voltage of the battery and let us know.
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Awesome, please let me know, thank you!!
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The battery in the corner of the board read .9v. I cleaned the contacts and reseated the board, and now it goes into system test, then goes into "Low Battery Mode" . Hrm.
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Your battery is dead. You will need to replace it. Once you get it replaced you can progress. Most of these United Coin games were "Route Games" that were linked together. Is there another small board mounted just below the monitor?
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Ok, is there a better battery to use, or should I get the same one?
Here are a few more pics. The board was jumped like crazy. It does have a board below the glass. It was switched to free play. I wonder if I could get to use coins again, for home use only of course.
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It's a 1/2 AA Size 3.6V Lithium battery. Are you decent with your soldering skills? They're easy to put in. Check out vender list on the home page including K-Lar, Midwest Slots, Slot Rush, Better Slots Company. I'd avoid Ebay since people there sell outdated batteries as "new."
If you're close to a real electronic store, they might carry one.
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Awesome, thanks! No issue soldering/desoldering. I will try and find the same battery and hook it up. I wonder if Microcenter has one. I'll keep you posted. Thanks!
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Would this be a good time to replace with a 2032 battery/socket? Or other more easily to swap out interface?
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I can't quite see what board the 2032 is on. I don't have that on my CEI. But if it's dead, yes.
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I meant replace the old soldered on lithium battery with a socket for a CR 2032 battery of same spec.
No need though, batteries plus had one and I've installed it, and I got the error "bad test bytes at 4998" but then I set the date, rebooted and it went through test and seems to be working.
However, it wants money. I'm not sure how to change it to free play. The settings must have been erased. To get into the extended menu, it wants user/pass. I found/used 1492/1086 and worked, but no free play setting there. Any ideas? Here are a few pics with some connectors that are were currently disconnected.
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Would this be a good time to replace with a 2032 battery/socket? Or other more easily to swap out interface?
Replacing the 1/2 AA battery with a 2032 coin battery will not last on this board. You need the same style battery. You can have a 1/2 AA battery holder installed, then use a 1/2 AA Battery. If you tried to go to a 2032 battery, it would be drained of it power in a matter of days.
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Right on, thanks. Do you know if there is a setting for free play? I believe that is how it was configured previously, but the battery died, and I'm not sure how to credit up.
Are there manuals anywhere? Thanks!
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I will check my manual later today to see if there's any settings for free play for my version which might be the same. It may take a while so please be patient. I have to work again today. Plus you will have to wait for that battery to do anything. Hopefully you've found a source.
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I got a battery at batteries plus yesterday, installed and back up and running. But I guess the free play settings are lost, and it wants quarters, heh. Quarters just fall through to the trough with no credit up.
Should the red light be on, on the coin comparitor?
Test mode shows @UCMC 1995. Based on the game list, what software version is this running? I can't find a manual that has similar menus. Thanks!
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There's some start up settings but I'm not home. Shoot sorry! I'll have to check later ... but I'll PM another member, who may be able to check in and let you know, before I get home later.
Good to see the machine is alive.
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Don’t think there is a free play option on this game. I have a similar game and see no option setting like your looking for.
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Thanks for responding Dormi. Is there a way to credit up the machine manually?
Is the red light on the coin comparitor supposed to be lit?
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Other then adding coins, no and it will only let you add to the maximum amount. But as you win, you can accumulate them. Remember, this is an old machine. I'll check the boot up options when I get home and see if we can get it running.
Dormi will know this so hopefully he might check and reply.
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What does the machine have mounted below the coin comparitor that sends a signal to the mpu to add a credit? If it is a coin trip switch you might be able to add a switch to the outside of the machine that will give you credits.
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There is a coin trip/switch, (like in a pinball machine), but clicking it doesn’t credit up the machine. I’ll take a video. There are some connections that are disconnected, but thy seem to be where a bill collector used to be, but I really have no idea.
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just some ideas,,,,,
Are you clicking the coin switch after selecting one of the poker games to play? Also, maybe the adding of credits is inhibited while the main door is open? May have to bypass the door open switch so the machine thinks the door is closed while you are testing the coin trip switch? Have you examined the coin in the coin comparitor, make sure it is a normal US quarter, same as what you are trying to insert from the front coin slot?
If the coin comparitor rejects the inserted coin back to the front tray of the machine then the coin comparitor doesn't like the inserted coin for some reason, or the coin comparitor is bad or has no power. On the backside of the coin comparitor there is a solenoid coil that pulls the "rake" metal piece out of the way so that an inserted coin will get accepted. For testing purposes you can force that rake out of the way with a piece of folded paper. That way the coin will pass thru the coin comparitor and then thru the coin trip switch. With the door closed see if that will add a credit.
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So I selected a game, held the door switch closed, activsted the switch and still no credits.
The coin competitor has a red LED on it that is dark. I’m wondering if it should be lit.
Does anyone have some pics of their machine I can compare things to?
https://youtu.be/jLG6DYxvrDU (https://youtu.be/jLG6DYxvrDU)
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There is continuity from both wires attached to the coin switch, to the board behind the hopper also. I'm stumped.
For those with this cabinet, does tripping that switch credit up your game?
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Can you post a photo of the coin switch area? I believe that the coin switch is not used on your game. The CC40 does that. The gray and green wires are supposed to go a diverter solenoid. I'll pull my game out and take a photo.
*** Got the photo. On these games they use an opto in the coin harness. They used the same on Games of Nevada machines and these went bad fairly often. This opto is in a piece of heat shrink in the coin harness. I had to replace the one on my game.
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Thanks for posting your pic. Strange, the green and grey wires are attached to a switch, Hrm.
Should the led on the CC40 be lit? There is something in shrink wrap in the left side connector to the CC40, is that what you mention? Thanks for your help!
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I have marked with yellow arrows where the Gray & Green wires go. They should not go to the coin switch. The CC40 LED will turn on when the door is closed and the game is ready for play. If the CC40 does not work it could be the opto, CC40, the transformer on the door or the main board (but not too likely). The opto I spoke of is circled in yellow.
Be sure to put a coin in the CC40. Also, what is the output voltage of the transformer on the door?
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Most of the CC are only lit when the door is closed.
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One thing I noticed going back thru your photos. Is that your Yellow & Black wires coming off the transformer are opposite of mine.
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I noticed that too. I was getting no voltage there, and then I realized there were lamps behind the glass that were also out. So I went hunting for fuses, had to remove the hopper and found the 1A fuse was blown. I replaced that, and those are now lighting up. It tuns out that those wires connected to that switch caused the fuse to blow. Reconnected them to the coil behind the coin slide, and dropped a coin in.
It now takes coins, credits up and works! The hopper spits out coins too! Stoked!
Thank you all for your help!!!