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Title: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on January 30, 2021, 10:24:39 PM
I have several Fire Link Machines I had fireball games set up on. Well lets make a long story short and say all the boards got removed in a robbery. Luckily I recovered all of the boards back. I have placed them all back in the machines and 5 out of 9 are working fine. The other 4 are stuck on the loading Alpha OS screen and wont do anything else. Does this mean that these boards are bad or burned, possibly corrupt or do I just not have something plugged in correctly?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on January 31, 2021, 06:38:27 AM
Have you tried using a clear card and then rebooted to set them back up again?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 01, 2021, 11:45:58 AM
No I have not tried that. I do not know much about these machines, at least the technical part of it. Is that what I would need to do? Should I be asking a technician to do this for me or is this something that's not too hard to figure out. I simply put the boards back in the machines they came out of and plugged the inputs where they fit. So far there's only 4 that aren't work and are stuck on the screen in the photos.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 01, 2021, 11:53:09 AM
Have the tech do that because the machines will have to be set up one the clear card is used
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 02, 2021, 07:52:32 AM
Copy that. Thank you for the assistance. Its very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 02:08:42 PM
Do you know if the boards in this 4 machines that are stuck on that screen could be damaged? maybe due to no cutting off the power before they were taken out by the thief or are they still ok? I'd imagine they are still ok as the other 5 are working fine.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 03, 2021, 02:19:46 PM
That's possible but did you try to clear them and reboot to see if they proceed to the setup menu?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 02:41:11 PM
Not yet. I havent had a chance to have a tech come out with a clear card to clear those machines yet. I was just concerned that I may be having to buy new boards and that can be expensive. Upwards of 3500 a board right?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 03, 2021, 03:02:57 PM
Wow, 3500 for a CPU is kind of high
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 03:16:37 PM
Again I dont know much about it. Am I being taken advantage of because of that? What would be normal price?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: rickhunter on February 03, 2021, 05:04:50 PM
Depending on your area alpha 2 mpu's should go between 400-650 typically in used working condition.  I wouldn't be surprised if new ones were that high though, but you don't really need new ones.  How can you be sure that the mpu's went back into the correct machines?  If they were not placed into the same cabinet as before you would get the issues you are getting, a clear would fix that though.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 06:02:12 PM
Well luckily on the outside of the board cage the machine numbers are wrote in permanent marker. Don't know why I did that but glad I did. I dont think the MPU's are bad either because all of them were taken out the same way and I have more working than not working. For some reason it is just stuck on that loading screen. I want to go back in there and make sure I have everything plugged up where it should be. Again I'm not an expert but could that be the reason it makes it thru the whole boot process and then stops right there?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: rickhunter on February 03, 2021, 06:14:15 PM
It is hard to diagnose problems like yours with just screen shots and descriptions.  A lot of the times, a clear will fix the issue.  Since the mpu's were removed and exposed to who knows what, the nvram might have become corrupted and causing your issue at hand.  You might have loose things on the mpu like the video card.  If you have never worked on these machines, I would find someone who has if you don't want to try the clear process by yourself.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 06:40:09 PM
 :thank_you: Yeah I understand that. Hey if you need me to provide anything else so it better helps you understand the problem I surely will. I actually want to try the clear process myself. Just for my knowledge and for the future. If it happens again at least I would know how to use a clear card and what to do. I'll leave the programming and installing games, things of that nature to the professionals but this I want to learn. Not to keep asking questions but does anyone know where I can obtain a clear card for this Alpha machine?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 03, 2021, 06:53:29 PM
Before you go down the trail of using a clear card, do you know how to set the game back up? If not, better off letting someone more knowledgeable.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 03, 2021, 07:34:39 PM
awesome, thanks for the help. Guess I will be seeking the help of someone who knows how to set it back up.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 06, 2021, 10:13:41 PM
Naaaaaahhhhhhh I'm actually going to learn how to do this myself. Ive ordered a clear card off of Ebay. Does anyone know where I can get the software/technology to set these Alphas back up once I use the clear card. If anyone has any knowledge of where to obtain this please reply or pm me personally......Especially if you're selling.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 06, 2021, 11:03:13 PM
UPDATE!!


So Ive recently changed up the way I had these boards plugged in and I'm no longer stuck on the Loading OS screen that I was previously stuck on..I have made it further and I'm now on the screen below. If anyone can help me get past this screen or tell me what the next steps are it'd be greatly appreciated.  :hail:
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 07, 2021, 06:40:17 AM
Read the message in that box, what do you think it is saying, especially on the one above the last line. As for setup there are good videos on YouTube that show how to set your machines up. Do a search.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Ken on February 07, 2021, 06:58:57 AM
Read the message in that box, what do you think it is saying, especially on the one above the last line. As for setup there are good videos on YouTube that show how to set your machines up. Do a search.

What you said to do a week ago.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 07, 2021, 12:00:15 PM
Yes, I can see what the message in the box is saying. I’m asking for help on how to do what the message is asking me to. I asked if anyone knows what steps to do next please help. I searched that specific message on google and YouTube and couldn’t find much help getting past this message. I’ll continue to dig and see what I can find.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: idesign on February 07, 2021, 12:14:51 PM
If you have the clear card with the machine off, insert the clear card into the top slot of the CPU, turn the machine on, let it come up to the message asking you to turn the jackpot key.   Turn the key and it will clear the machine with final message asking you to press the white button on the CPU.  At that point you turn the machine off, remove the clear card and boot the machine back up until it you get to setting the machine up.  Press the white button on the CPU to get to the setup screen.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 07, 2021, 03:03:53 PM
Awesome awesome awesome. Thank you very very much. I will update. The clear card is on the way and I will use it and set the machine back up. You guys are the best. I’ll post any more issues if I ran into them. This has been a huge help.  :thank_you:
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 10, 2021, 03:29:18 PM
Thank you to everyone!! I got the clear card, cleared the machine and set it back up!! Thank for all the help!!! Now off to work on these 550 machines!!  :thank_you:
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 10, 2021, 07:03:28 PM
Ok ran into a hiccup. Hope its a minor issue. So when I used the clear card on the other machines and powered then back on all I had to do was press the white test button on the CPU to get into the settings and set the machines back up. This last one is not letting me get back into the settings pressing the white test button. When I turn the key Im able to get into the blue menu but not the purple menu that used to set the machine up. Just flashing Call attendant and telling me nothing is set up which of course I know. If anyone knows how I can get to the set up machine to set the machine back up please let me know. No errors on the clear card process by the way
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: jakah440 on February 10, 2021, 07:25:57 PM
When you push the white test button does a horn sound come from the machine? If so the game hasn't completely loaded yet.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 10, 2021, 07:30:48 PM
No sound at all. Another machine did that though and that’s when I learned it wasn’t completely loaded. No this one just doesn’t do anything when I press the button.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: jakah440 on February 10, 2021, 07:47:04 PM
I'm newer to this platform so we'll let the experts answer. But during loading does it show at the bottom of the screen that is is loading the Fire Link software?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 10, 2021, 07:55:56 PM
No it doesn’t. Fully loads up and says “Ram cleared and restart” at the bottom like they all did. The test button works tho bc after the clear process succeeds it says press test button to return to the menu. I push it and that’s when I power down and remove the clear card. Then it loads completely up but I can’t get into the setup menu.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: jakah440 on February 10, 2021, 08:03:54 PM
So after the power up after the clear, does it show loading Fire Link at the bottom?
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 10, 2021, 08:11:04 PM
Yeah, it says the game is loading, initializing and then fully loads up. I can see the game in the background it’s just blank because I can’t get into the settings to set the game up.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: rickhunter on February 10, 2021, 09:40:07 PM
You need to have the open door M to get into the setup menu.  If your main door is not opened, it's because there's probably a switch you need pull or something to get the door M switch to open.
Title: Re: Fire Link Machines
Post by: Delma on February 11, 2021, 12:15:24 AM
Thanks for all the help again. Oddly enough this machine also didn't make the noise when you dropped down the metal door in front of the CPU. Low and behold covered with black tape was the switch that was stuck in by the black tape. Removed the tape and ding there's the noise and test button worked to set the machine up. Again thank you all. You all have been a great help.
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