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WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« on: June 30, 2017, 08:51:07 AM »
I bought these 2 CF cards from a seller on Ebay.  The seller has a habit, most of the time, of not displaying the cards you will receive, only displays the game playing in a machine.  So you really don't know what you will receive until you get it.  Some people I hear received an empty box from the seller with signature confirmation no less.

Anyway, the INSTALL card label looks legit but the GAME card label is suspect.  I think I see at least 4 things wrong with the label, but would like hear from others on what they think it wrong with it.

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 01:03:45 PM »
Let's see:

1.  Fonts are not usually what Bally uses.
2.  There's no Bally logo in the background.
3.  There's absolutely no wear whatsoever on the label.

The 4th one escapes me.  :Scratch-Head:
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 01:06:48 PM »
Let's see:

1.  Fonts are not usually what Bally uses.
2.  There's no Bally logo in the background.
3.  There's absolutely no wear whatsoever on the label.

The 4th one escapes me.  :Scratch-Head:

Good start, didn't think of number 3.  Here is a pic of the real card to compare it with.  The card I received is below it.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 04:38:26 PM »
A question,  Did that seller claim it to be Original software/cards?. 

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 04:51:53 PM »
A question,  Did that seller claim it to be Original software/cards?.

You can't be serious, if he is selling copies isn't that infringement? SG would be on his ass for that, also a violation of ebay policy.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 05:00:40 PM »
I am serious.  If SG, The feds, or e-bay wan't him-they know where he's at.  Since it's Rant's and Rave's here-The thing is -has been for years You people like original software so you can back it up and re-sell it.  You know as well as me No cards stay in the alpha 2 brain box but the software does.  As far as infringement-They do it every day on there on all the platforms-look at the picks of the software!!!!!!!.  Not me--All I got is the real deal. 

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 05:06:13 PM »
Auction says it's BALLY software.  Without pictures of the shit he is selling, the expectation is it's original shit.  What would you expect to receive?
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 05:19:14 PM »
That's why I have never dealt with that Jack-Ass or any others.  They could go on that e-bay site as far as slots go and rip it a new one if they wanted to with all the fake software on there-Who's to say they won't?.  We have seen it before.  Be patient grasshopper-They will all get it. 

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 05:28:41 PM »
Well Barry, how about getting back on the original topic and add your thoughts concerning the fake label. 
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 05:35:11 PM »
It's Fake -That's all I can say.  They did a good job for the non-average joe to not notice but I have been knowing this about that dude and MANY others.  I know there is a vendetta and a case built and still being built against that fella. 

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2017, 06:21:57 PM »
4. Text on the label is portrait instead of landscape.


Nope. That's not it.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 08:09:28 PM »
Does the fake one work? If so I'd bet the majority of machine owners don't care. Think about all the Windows computer software that has been copied for decades going back to Windows 3.1 and DOS before that. Microsoft has more resources than Bally ever had, they didn't stop it or even pursue it most of the time unless it was a high-profile seller.



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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 10:14:49 PM »
Yep, All that stuff works.  I'm with you on home users.  It is what it is.   This a rant/rave lynch mob topic for a specific person.

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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2017, 06:21:08 AM »
Does the fake one work? If so I'd bet the majority of machine owners don't care. Think about all the Windows computer software that has been copied for decades going back to Windows 3.1 and DOS before that. Microsoft has more resources than Bally ever had, they didn't stop it or even pursue it most of the time unless it was a high-profile seller.

I don't know if it works, didn't try it.  But that's not the point, what would you expect to receive for $150?  or even $350 which what he was recently selling this game for before this topic was posted.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2017, 06:30:41 AM »
Yep, All that stuff works.  I'm with you on home users.  It is what it is.   This a rant/rave lynch mob topic for a specific person.

How do you know it all works?  Some others on here have had issues with the stuff he sells. 

The whole point of this topic is to point out to less knowledgeable users what to look for when buying slot software, could be from anyone, not just this seller.  I know of at least one person on here that bought a card from another user, who decided to sell the software he bought from him.  So this shit eventually is sold by others.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2017, 06:36:09 AM »
4. Text on the label is portrait instead of landscape.


Nope. That's not it.

How about the

4. misspelled PLUNDR, or
5. the missing J in J26/27

There are more issues too.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2017, 07:59:23 AM »
I am with you.  If I'm paying $150 for a non-dongle game, I expect to get an original.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2017, 08:54:27 AM »
All I meant by my comment was that there are enough people that buy copied software and don't care if it is orig as long as it works, even at these price levels, so that is why the practice of selling copies continues. For these slot machine games there often aren't enough of the orig cf cards available for sale so people don't have a lot of choices where to buy, that compounds the problem and induces people to buy the copied versions.

I agree that a buyer should be getting an original cf card for that amount paid. But we also know that copied software is always for sale. So if you think it may not be orig, especially if they don't say it is, or if you want to make sure then why not ask the seller first if it is orig. If he refuses to answer or says it is a copy then don't buy it. If he claims it is orig then ebay allows the fake item to be returned since it isn't what the seller said it is and they will force a refund to be given. Nowadays ebay sides with the buyer more often than the seller, everyone selling stuff on ebay knows that. I'm not an ebay fan but their rules favor the buyer most of the time.

If someone takes a genuine Bally produced cf card, copies another Bally game software onto it and relabels it what do you have? Physically it is a genuine Bally cf card and the software on it is digitally an exact duplicate of the Bally game software. Bally copied their master game file to their cf cards all day long at the factory in a similar way. So your copy is no different from a genuine-produced Bally cf card except it wasn't made by Bally at their factory, it was made in somebody's basement. It's the aspect that it isn't a "real" version made by Bally.

I'm not promoting pirating or tricking someone into buying a fake by representing it as an original, but the fake is not inferior to the original from a functioning standpoint. The only downside I can see is if you bought the cf card for purposes of reselling it and by being a copy that hinders the resell. If that's the case then I'd open a complaint on ebay for the transaction, tell ebay the item is not as described and get a refund. If enough buyers would do that maybe the seller would stop, but not likely.
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2017, 09:15:07 AM »
It's the ethics of the practice I question, not the functionality.  I agree with you that technically speaking it is the exact same thing.  Just seems wrong to not divulge that it may not be an OEM card, and why would he? He wouldn't be allowed to sell it on e-bay as it is against the rules (although they only get enforced when someone complains about a specific item).
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Re: WHAT"S WRONG WITH THE GAME CARD
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2017, 09:17:57 AM »
I understand about the ethics part of it, I've gotten to where I don't expect much of that from ebay unless it is a seller I've dealt with before.
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