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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally Alpha (Cinevision), and ALL Bally "V___" series - V5000, V2000, V1000, etc. => Topic started by: rapidroy on August 01, 2014, 08:34:15 AM

Title: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 01, 2014, 08:34:15 AM
Hi All
First post HELLO :wave:  and a question, I have a bally V2370 and cant find a thing about it. it looks like it must be one of the first video slots. oh ya I'm starting to restore it so more Q's will be posted :yes:
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: CVslots on August 01, 2014, 11:58:45 AM
Hello, and welcome to NewLifeGames! Glad your here!


You will find more info on your machine by searching "Bally V2000" rather than the specific model. V2000 was the platform, V2370 is the model.


Good luck and have fun!
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 02, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
well, I ordered the star for the hopper today, mine is some kind of rubber goo :Scratch-Head:  but from what i have read they all get that way.
i guess bally didnt make too many v2000 slots or most are dead because i still cant find much about that platform i do find card type games on v2000 base.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 02, 2014, 09:51:22 PM
 :NLG_WELCOME:
I've owned a couple V2000 video poker machines. I think both the video poker & video slot use the same boards stack. Does your machine work at all? How about pictures of it inside.. I'm currently have a V2000 poker project. I just finished doing some board repairs tonight due to battery acid damage. Just need to install a new battery and test my work.

Gary
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 03, 2014, 12:14:10 AM
When I got it, it didn't work, but now all is good, here it is on. Most of the problems I had were small one's, loose plugs and grease on moving parts that turned to glue, bad blubs (I still need 1 blub holder) missing springs ect.   I'll get some pics of the inside tomorrow.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 03, 2014, 12:32:29 AM
when or how do the lights next to the coin out slot (i don't know the all the names of things) the big chrome thing light? there is 1 ge 63 blub on each side of the coin output that dont light up.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 03, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
I have some parts from old machines, I might be able to help with parts. Check the wires at the bottom of your 63 bulb sockets. They loose there connection. You could also check the wiring plug one the doors hinge side, those connections tend to cause problems. If you can take a pic of the lights in question, pictures are helpfull.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 03, 2014, 07:38:32 AM
here's the inside, I've learned that not all lights come on when the game comes on, like if i put too many coins in ,it takes 3 but if you put 4, a light on the left side comes on to tell you, also on the same left side it says "jackpots over 1000 paid by attendant" should light when that happens. but when do the lights in the door light? see pic with the circles.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 03, 2014, 01:03:16 PM
Those lights circled should come on when the machine is powered on. Those are #63 bulbs. You might want to move the connectors around on the light sockets. They should have blue wire (power) and the others ground.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 03, 2014, 04:49:36 PM
well no power to the ge63 blubs i'll need to track it down.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 03, 2014, 05:03:26 PM
Check the white plug on the door where the chassis wiring connects to the door wiring, common place for problems.. One other place is where the cabinet wiring flexes from opening and closing the door. You could make jumper wires to make sure bulb sockets are good.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 03, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
i metered the blubs and tested good (they are new) but i traced it back to the board on the back of the machine with the big cap on it and no power is coming from the white plug there. blue/red wire
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 04, 2014, 12:46:42 AM
Hmm...  :Scratch-Head:   It has to be a fused circuit, have you checked the fuses? I've had bad holders in some 2000 series before. Always test both the fuse out of its holder and inside with a meter in the hold. Check for correct amp size. I can't tell you how many machine I've found with a 15 amp fuse, where a lower amperage belonged.

Gary
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 04, 2014, 07:19:36 AM
you got it, :hail: I pulled the fuse on that circit it was 32v 10a? i put back a 250v 8a  (I can't find what fuse should be there) lights came on! now..... would you happen to have a bulb socket?
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 04, 2014, 08:06:45 AM
that circit was also tied to this bank of lights  :applause:  this machine is looking better and better
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 04, 2014, 08:34:11 AM
Great.  :applause:  Glade to help.. I can look a see if I have one of those twist in sockets. If I don't them maybe my friend does.. I just sent him a link to your post and asked him if he had a spare light socket.. Hopefully he will respond.

Gary
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 04, 2014, 09:12:48 AM
do you know what size fuse's go into this machine? it has 7 fuse's, 3 on the back board 3 in a square holder on the floor of the machine and 1 on the hopper. I've seen blub holders on "the Bay" but most sellers get you on the shipping, I'll be in Bullhead city on labor day weekend so I'm going to check out NLG if they are open, i've driven by it 100's of time but never had the need to stop, maybe they will have some small stuff that I'm looking for. I think I'll change the battery also it looks to be turning a green color. :rotfl:
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 04, 2014, 09:51:13 AM
Not sure on your fuses. I don't think any should be over 10 amp. Usually 5,8, and 10 amps. Most machine use to have a sticker on the cabinet near the fuses telling sizes and voltages. It could have fallen off. Another good question for my friend Tim..
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Sunrise Side on August 04, 2014, 10:26:11 AM
I will check on the fuses this evening and post here the amps for each.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Sunrise Side on August 04, 2014, 07:39:10 PM
The fuses on the back walll power supply board - from top to bottom are


F1 = 2 amp
F2 = 10 amp
F3 = 10 amp


The fuses on the floor - from right to left


F1 = 8 amp
F2 = 5 amp
F3 = 3 amp


Hopper fuse is 5 amp



Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 05, 2014, 07:18:03 AM
Thanks for the fuse info I'll print it out and toss it inside the machine. I would like to replace the battery the old one looks a little green, i've read it would be be best to find a NiCad battery then a Lithium because of the charging circuit or will a Lithium be OK. Lithium seems easier to find.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Paul on August 05, 2014, 07:25:58 AM
You can get them on eBay
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 05, 2014, 08:44:37 PM
lithium or NiCad? I can get lithium or NiMh here in town but not NiCad I just dont know if it has to be NiCad. my next quest is to get the candle to light, anyone know how it works? the attendant button does nothing.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 05, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
You should stick with NiCad. I just bought some last week from Mouser electronics.

www.mouser.com (http://www.mouser.com)

Gary


Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 06, 2014, 07:59:11 AM
did you order Mouser part # 547-pcm-3.6
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Sunrise Side on August 06, 2014, 09:04:15 AM
This is the number Gary  used - 639-COMP-18-3-NMH
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 06, 2014, 10:55:33 AM
This is the number Gary  used - 639-COMP-18-3-NMH

Thanks Tim.. I didn't have the number in front of me when I posted before..  :duh:
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 06, 2014, 02:06:45 PM
oh so it's not a NiCd its a Mmh, I'll check it out
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 06, 2014, 02:42:41 PM
They are rechargeable..

http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?COMP-18-3-NMH/&qs=/ha2pyFaduhojJnN8J2gL9vsXiK7pc%252bJc65f90Ae8eSnY1vBO8GrDw== (http://www.mouser.com/Search/m_ProductDetail.aspx?COMP-18-3-NMH/&qs=/ha2pyFaduhojJnN8J2gL9vsXiK7pc%252bJc65f90Ae8eSnY1vBO8GrDw==)
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 07, 2014, 06:18:37 PM
I put in a new battery and everything went great :applause: man the battery gets up to 4.8v. I had to reset the machine every morning on first turn on after being turned off overnight, we shall see if the memory holds tomorrow.  I also had to tweek the hinges to get the door to close and lock. this slot is looking better and better. now I need some help to get the candle to light.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Sunrise Side on August 07, 2014, 06:57:56 PM
Did you check the bulbs in the candle?


When you press the change button on the button deck does the button light up?


When you open the door does the candle light up?
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 07, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
well....no
         
         no
   
    and no
is the button a momentary switch or a push on and push off? this one is a momentary switch. anyway if i hold it down it does nothing.
I need to figure out how to get to the blubs next. there's lots of extra wiring in there. i'll post pic's tomorrow.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 07, 2014, 07:38:45 PM
The candle switch on the front of the door is a click on click off button.. The candle has a nut on the top.. Remove it and lift off the cover..

Gary
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 06:43:46 AM
ok if its a push on push off button then I will need to replace it, I do get power to one side of the switch so thats a good thing. heres a pic of the battery after 30 years :yes: .
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 08:26:34 AM
blubs are good
the candle is unpluged but it has 2 wires tapped off it that go to a plug thats just hanging in the upper box. the red circle is from the candle the blue plug goes down to the main in a bundle of wires
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 09:01:24 AM
after looking at it I'm thinking I got it working 99% maybe I should just close it up and not worry about the candle and call it done, what do you think? I'm afraid i'll break or fry something.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 08, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
Roy.. It's the two plugs in your second picture.. See my pic.. Just check the wires on the back of your front door switch. Make sure they are still connected.

Gary

Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 12:44:46 PM
the 4 socket plug that goes down to the machine has only 3 wires in it but 2 extra wires are tiewraped with them i'm thinking 1 of the wires should go in the plug? take a look
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 08, 2014, 01:19:40 PM
I have no idea what your two wires are, but the don't go to the plug. If your worried then meter out the plug. One should be power from the door hinge switch, and the other your service light from the switch on the doors front. The third wire should be a common.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 02:33:25 PM
there are 4 wires on the plug from the candle and 3 wires on the plug to the machine + the 2 extra wires that have female pins but not in a plug. you wouldnt happen to have the colors of the 4 wire coming from the  machine?
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 08, 2014, 02:46:01 PM
Mines the same.. Four wires from the candle and three from the machine. I learned years ago not to worry about unused plugs and cut and terminated wires in these machines.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 08, 2014, 03:18:57 PM
 :hail: :hail: You got, plugged it together and BAM I now have a fully working slot 100% :dancing_2:
this is my first one but I'm learning, the yellow flashs when the call button is pushed the white comes on when the door is open.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 10, 2014, 06:58:46 PM
you wouldnt happen to have a coin tray, my machine has the wood cover but the coin catcher is built into the base, so if i want to put it on a differant base the coins will just fall on the floor
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Paul on August 10, 2014, 07:38:24 PM
Don't know if its the right size but here is one on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bally-EM-Slot-Machine-Money-Bowl-/151363905063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233dfde627 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bally-EM-Slot-Machine-Money-Bowl-/151363905063?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233dfde627)
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 11, 2014, 06:38:22 AM
It looks to be the right one, if only it was in better shape.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Paul on August 11, 2014, 06:53:02 AM
They clean up good as the
main part is aluminum and
the insert is stainless steel.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: CVslots on August 11, 2014, 09:18:44 AM
We have them. You need just the bowl right?
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: rapidroy on August 11, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
I think the bowl is bolted to this panel, it looks like bally drilled all the panels then it was up to the buyer of the slot to have a coin tray or (i think is called) loud coin pan built into the stand. the bolts you see have nuts on the other side and looks like the coin tray should just bolt in from behind. so if you have one let me know. the one on ebay has rust? so maybe its made of chrome plated steel.
Title: Re: greetings and a Q about bally V2370
Post by: Amechanic on August 11, 2014, 11:13:28 AM
I know the wood inserts come in different sizes, but I think the coin trays are all the same size on the E & V Series Bally machines. The earlier EM coin trays that mounted to the door were smaller, but the later EM machines could be the same.. 
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