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809 short
« on: August 12, 2022, 07:05:16 AM »
Hi Boys,

My 8A fuse blows when at my first play.

In the door there is a short on orange and the door.

When I remove the hopper there is no short.

I can't find a short in the hopper.

Any idea?

thanks Herbie


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Re: 809 short
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2022, 09:04:12 AM »
it may not be a short, it may be a failed coil or other component.

when does the fuse blow?  Coin deposited, handle pulled, end of reel spin?

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Re: 809 short
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2022, 07:54:27 AM »
Hi Wolf,

there are two shorts see photos.

Today all was working until I inserted the coin mechanism.

I took the coin mech bracket apart but could not find anything?

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Re: 809 short
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2022, 03:31:46 PM »
no bare wire or lug should be touching the coin mech frame or the coin mech when it's installed.  Check places marked with red arrows below.

since you don't have the coin lockout armature, there's no point in connecting the loose wire to the coil.  You should tape off the end (pull it out of the grommet and tape it outside the mech), and make sure the bare coil lug isn't bent up/down enough to touch the mech or frame.

the metal parts of the game are connected to the mains ground ... they shouldn't be connected to any of the 6V or 50V circuits.  Reading voltage with one probe on the metal parts should give a misleading answer. 

if you are measuring ohms (power off) from a circuit to the chassis metal parts, you should get a reading over 10 megohms.  If you get a low reading of a few ohms, then something is shorted to the metal.  If only one thing is shorted to metal, the game may work ok, but you have a current path that is connecting something in the 6V/50V circuits to mains ground (and eventually neutral back at the circuit panel) in the 120V circuit.  That can result in flaky behavior.
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Re: 809 short
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2022, 02:54:14 PM »
There should be a thick paper insulator between the coin lock out coil and the door / case.

 

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