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IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« on: March 15, 2018, 09:43:59 PM »
I have an old IGT Bonus Poker video machine in a wooden case. It had a low battery message on the screen. I pulled the mother board and replaced the battery but when I replaced the motherboard it still says battery low. Is there something else that needs to be done to reset the low battery message?
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 10:40:22 PM »
Can you post a photo of the machine, and of the circuit board that has the battery? That will help to identify what you have so the advice you get will be more helpful.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 08:02:24 AM »
Here are some photos

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 05:58:05 PM »
A photo of the circuit board please.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2018, 10:01:08 PM »
For the record, this is an IGT Player's Edge Plus (PE+) slant top video poker machine.

Can you verify that the new battery you soldered to the MPU board has good voltage (as measured with a voltmeter), and is installed with the polarity in the correct direction?
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2018, 05:31:27 PM »
Circuit board

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2018, 05:50:56 PM »
 Can you post a clear close up photo of the battery area?  The overall photo is a bit small.

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2018, 06:30:41 PM »
Battery area on MPU

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2018, 07:28:46 PM »
The green end of the Xeno battery is the positive end. Look on your board and make sure the battery is installed correctly.

If you have a meter you can check the battery, make sure it is 3.6 volts DC.

If the battery checks ok you can put your meter leads on the cmos ram chip as shown in photo below, look for +3.6 volts battery voltage to be there. If the +3.6 volts isn't there then check the soldering on the battery holder. If your meter shows -3.6 volts with the meter leads as shown below then the battery is installed backwards.

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2018, 04:02:17 PM »
The PE+ MPU boards did not ship with battery holders on them -- this was added by someone after the machine was manufactured.  Did you add it?

Maybe we should go back another step -- has this machine ever been working for you?
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2018, 07:27:04 PM »
It was working for several years until the battery died. I could not find a battery with the leads already attached, so I ordered a battery holder for the size battery and soldered it in place. I don't think it's wise to solder directly onto a battery. Haha.

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2018, 08:24:12 PM »
No, lead solder does not stick to stainless steel.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2018, 09:32:05 PM »
It was working for several years until the battery died. I could not find a battery with the leads already attached, so I ordered a battery holder for the size battery and soldered it in place.

Did this ever work with the battery holder in place?  If not, I think the possibilities are:

- Dead/under-voltage replacement battery
- Improper battery for the application
- The soldering for the holder isn't making a good connection

As rokgpsman suggested earlier, grab a multi-meter and measure voltage on the board to see if you're getting battery voltage where you should be.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2018, 10:08:06 PM »
It was working for several years until the battery died. I could not find a battery with the leads already attached, so I ordered a battery holder for the size battery and soldered it in place. I don't think it's wise to solder directly onto a battery. Haha.

A battery with axial solder leads ("pigtails") is available from many places, below are two examples. This style battery can have the leads shortened and bent so you can solder it to the board solder pads.  Also, you can use any brand of battery, as long as it is 1/2 AA size, 3.6 volts.

If the soldering of the battery holder is bad you could remove the battery holder and install a battery with leads, that way you are more likely to get it connected properly. Or redo the battery holder soldering and try again.

http://www.spininc.com/07886-0

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Pack-Titus-1-2-AA-Size-3-6V-ER14250FAX-Lithium-Battery-w-Axial-Wire-Leads/221793617508?hash=item33a3ee0664:g:ajMAAOSwKrhVd0Ig


And here is one with the solder tabs like the original battery on your board:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Piece-Omnicel-ER14250T-1-2-AA-Size-3-6V-Lithium-Batteries-With-Solder-Tabs/272181058369?hash=item3f5f415b41:g:ho0AAOSw9KpW~ZF-
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2018, 10:34:47 PM »
All Electronics sells a 1/2 AA with wire leads for under $4.
Good quality, strong wire bonds to the body.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2018, 10:41:17 PM »
All Electronics sells a 1/2 AA with wire leads for under $4.
Good quality, strong wire bonds to the body.

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2018, 05:11:23 AM »
One other thing to mention is that when I removed the original battery, the thin metal plate on the board that the battery was soldered to, came loose from the board. I wasn't sure how to reattached it, so I glued it back in place. Was that a mistake? What to do now?

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2018, 07:42:27 AM »

One other thing to mention is that when I removed the original battery, the thin metal plate on the board that the battery was soldered to, came loose from the board. I wasn't sure how to reattached it, so I glued it back in place. Was that a mistake? What to do now?


 Most likely this is your problem. Those pads have small traces going to them. Then those trace go throughout the board. If one of those pads came off it probably broke the trace. You will need to find which one is not making the connection and repair it. Or, you can send it to one of the vendors here who can repair it for you.

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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 10:11:42 AM »
One other thing to mention is that when I removed the original battery, the thin metal plate on the board that the battery was soldered to, came loose from the board. I wasn't sure how to reattached it, so I glued it back in place. Was that a mistake? What to do now?
Oh yeah, that's your problem. When you apply heat with the soldering iron you can't heat it too much or the pad will come loose from the circuit board. Then while you are applying pressure to it you broke the solder pad loose from the board path (the board's copper trace connection). So essentially the battery is no longer connected. When soldering you have to be careful about overheating the solder pads or that will happen. Someone can probably add a repair wire and fix this.
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Re: IGT Bonus Poker video machine - low battery message
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2018, 01:09:01 PM »
Thank you all for your help. I got the low battery to go away. Now all it says is call attendan and the change button is flashing. See photo

 

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