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NLG Classified ads and White Sheet => Requests for PSRs, technical information. => Topic started by: SLKingsley on April 06, 2020, 07:18:53 PM
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Hello, looking for CDS info please. I recently picked up a CDS SLV1510 Super Double Bonus Poker machine and I am looking for parts, manuals and wiring diagrams.
Also it shows a SYSTEM ERROR when it is powered up.
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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I have a box of CDS stuff in my storage room. I might have a manual. I'll check later this afternoon and get back to you. :yes:
:NLG_WELCOME:
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Thank you. Anything would be appreciated.
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:me_too:Ok, I did some digging and my stuff is for a CDS UB1920: a manual and a few boards. There's also three hard drives and what looks like a printer housing. I have no clue what's compatible with your game.
One good place to start here is checking the voltage of the button battery on the MPU. If it's a CR2354, it should read 3v. Did the seller indicate that it worked before? Some basics to check are ALL connectors inside. Does it take coins? If so, check for any that may have been in the hopper and fell to the back of the machine while it was moved.
These games are notoriously "challenging" to work on and we don't get a lot of requests here for help.
Here's a quote from one of our beloved members Buzz:
Trust me, the best view of a CDS is down the barrel of a 12 gauge. :wife: :wife: :banghead: :pull_hair: :pull_hair:
Hopefully another more knowledgable member will chime in. I'll put out the word with a few I know here and see if they can add their two cents worth. I'll first message the member who I got this box from! :yes:
Please post a photo of your machine.
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Thanks for the preliminary info shortrackskater! I will check the battery to see what it is producing. I have no history from the previous owner since it was a storage find. I picked it up really cheap so I figured it would be a fun project. If not, oh well... It'll be cool yard art. I'll gut it and put a mini fridge in it to set by the pool.
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I had an upright UV1510 CDS video poker machine. Gave it to my father in law years ago when his health was failing. Until now I'd never seen a slant top model. I imagine other than the cabinet they're pretty similar. I never was able to find a manual for mine so I wrote one myself with what I figured out. It's specific to the game theme (Million Coin Poker), but some of it will probably pertain to yours as well. I attached it so you can download it.
The game needs to be initialized, probably because the battery is dead. It's located on the mpu board (it's the one with the LEDs on it) and is a CR2354 as shortrackskater thought. Check and replace it if needed and then reinitialize it. On page 11 step 4 of the attached manual describes that process. Hopefully that's all it needs.
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Thanks alot Tilt. I'll check it out. I really appreciate all of the input.
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Okay guys, you gave me some great info and it got me in. Unfortunately, once I got in I couldn't initialize because it shows an error code when you start the initialization. Does anyone have an error code list or know what the code means?
Thanks again.
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Have you tried to initialize it again?
My manual, under code 88 says: "While determining the game results, the system detected that the machine was configured with an invalid schedule"
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Yes, I did try multiple times. I actually powered down in between as well. It keeps coming up with that error code.
Thanks!
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Does your machine have a hard drive in it? It should look just like one from a desktop computer.
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Can you post some pictures of your MPU board? I think you have newer firmware than mine does, but one thing I noticed is the checksum for U22 and U23 shows "FFFF". Was the battery dead? Did you press and Hold 1 and Hold 3 at the same time to initialize it? And if so, does it just loop back around to the same error?
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It does not have a hard-drive it only has RAM.
Yes the battery was completely depleted and I have a replacement installed now.
I am currently disassembling to clean. It is pretty nasty in there... I will get a couple pics as I clean and put it back together. I also did find some quarters back behind the main board between the board and the mounting frame.
One thing that I noticed was that the "Hold 1" button didn't do anything when I pushed it. It was lit up but pushing it did nothing. I even pulled the connectors and did a manual short and nothing. Therefore I cannot perform the initialization since it requires the "Hold 1" button along with the "Hold 3" button. This is what lead me to start disassembly and cleaning.
:thank_you:
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Ok, well hopefully when you get that working it will initialize properly. I'm still a bit curious about the checksums showing all FFFF's though. My game doesn't show the checksums, so it's a feature that was added in later software no doubt.
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Okay, I did some cleaning and got all of the quarters out. Getting ready to put it back together to test again.
I have pulled enough quarters out of this machine to pay for the new battery and knock off some of the price I paid. :yes:
Attached are some pics of the boards.
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Nice pictures. Some of it is coming back to me now. I remember the VIG 1.01 designator on the MPU board now. I don't know why the software doesn't show the checksums for U22 and U23, it may not have been fully implemented in the version you have? The game boots up and functions seem to work, so it's not anything to worry about. I did find another manual for a UV-1910, which is similar to the 1510, but sections of it are game specific. It's too big to post here, but if you want to send me a PM with your email address I'll send it to you.
There's a test for the multiplexed inputs which includes the button deck switch inputs. I'm just not sure if you can access them without using the hold 1 button. I'm pretty sure if you can get that working and initialize it you'll be in business.
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:applause: It's working. I got the input plug seated so that the Hold 1 button would function and was able to get it to initialize only to find out that the battery wasn't seating properly in the base. This was due to the fact that somebody along the way changed the battery over to a CR2450 which is way bigger than the original. I had to modify the base a little to get the battery to seat but now it works. (the CR2450 should last longer)
It accepts coins but the bill acceptor doesn't do anything at all. I'll have to look into that later... (also, I'll have to get me a sack of quarters because I hit a full house and the hand full I had isn't enough to fill the stack or pay out)
The display is pretty crappy. I tried to adjust it with the buttons on the front but it won't adjust and you can't see your credits or half of the 5th card. I'm wondering if I can put a small LCD monitor in there, if it will run on that.
Last, where do I find parts??? I need a couple of buttons and several lights bulbs. (button lamps and the little twist ins that are in the light on top.
Again, thanks for all the help so far and I appreciate your patience.
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Congratulations :applause: !
When you start working on the bill validator use $1 bills, the software is probably so out of date that it won't take any of the new currency. Usually on the top is a sticker that will tell you the type of validator DBV-145-SH or DBV-200-SH probably. The 145 will only take bills face up.
Yeah, the monitor looks like it could use a little adjustment. The horizontal width needs to be brought in some. I haven't worked with CRTs in a while, but I think the horizontal adjustments are back near the flyback transformer. Without an extension cable you have to pull the monitor out, adjust it a little, then put it back in and see where it's at. Repeat until it's where it should be. You may want to ask about it in the monitor section. Post a picture of the screen and the model number of the CRT and someone can probably help with that.
Common hardware like bulbs and switches are readily available. Check with Jim (Midwest slots) and see if he has anything. If not, Spin Inc and others should have them.
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Usually horizontal width is in the front. Have you looked closely all around the front of the CRT? If not, you can try pulling it out to see if it's in the back. If so, make a marking on the control with tape or whiteout. Move it to the right maybe an 8th of a turn. Plug it back in and see if it's better. If it's worse, then of course move it back the other way. It's much nice of course, to have extension cables but this way works too.
But as Tilt recommended, post a photo and model number in the monitor section if you continue having issues the CRT.
Let us know what type it is here as well.
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Thanks for all the input guys, it has helped tremendously. I was making all of my adjustments with the buttons on the front of the display chassis. Won't do much from there. It allows for many options in adjustment but the ones I need are maxed in the directions that I need so... Are there also analog adjustments as well? Is that what you are saying about adjusting from the back? Here's a picture of the monitor and bill validator.
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Power off your machine, open the lid, grasp the monitor at the sides (there should be handholds), and pull it straight out. You might have to wiggle it a bit. When it starts to move, make sure it's not connected by a cable... it shouldn't be. Don't drop it and don't touch ANYTHING but the chassis or else :lightningbolt: :lightningbolt: :lightningbolt: !!!
This way you can exam the back controls and try what I suggested.
Report back.
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I will attempt those adjustments later this afternoon/evening. I have been informed that I have familial obligations right now and that I need to "get out of the garage..."
See below what I have. My question is this: What does "screen" do. I get "focus".
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UGH... ok stick it back in, power up and first press the far left button which is a degaussing. It "clears" magnetic interference and may help a little. Have you tried pushing each button in front? One should bring up a main CRT menu (not related to the machine) and from there we should have a selection for horizontal position, I hope.
I'm no CRT expert here so I don't know the actual brand but it should be on the back, maybe on the inside part of the frame near the picture tube itself. I'm not sure what that company did, but I live about 8 minutes from there! I doubt they manufactured the CRT. That address is a company called "House of Batteries" and has been there for at least 10 or more years.
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Yeah, I've been messing with those buttons on front. The first button is basically the "menu" button the second one is "select" the third and forth are up and down. Unfortunately the menu options for centering the screen are maxed out in the directions I need to go. I'm going to attempt to operate a monitor to see if it will work that way. If so I am going to dump the CRT and find a suitable monitor that will fit in the space.
I just started to mess with the analog adjustments on the chassis of the CRT to see if I can get any better quality until I find a replacement.
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A cap kit would possible resolve all that. Electrolytic caps tend to go bad after time. I've done three and all fixed my various issues.