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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT Fortune 1 Sircoma/Poker => Topic started by: gordy on February 24, 2015, 06:41:30 PM
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The game always was Jacks or Better , credit, 9-6 payout. All of a sudden there was no pay for Jacks or better. Got another pair of chips marked 720 S JOB 9-6 pay Credit---similar to the original chips marked 720. Both sets did not pay on JOB. Moved the game board into another Fort 1 -----same result. They only paid for two pair. Any ideas ?
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Did you try the second board in the first machine? If it works then it sounds like a board error.
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Will try that in the AM. Thank you.
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Shaggy for President !!! His idea worked. It was a board problem ! The board had a tiny jumper wire in the two top holes [ closest to the transformers ] on the chip socket at location D 8 . This jumper prevented a Jacks or better payout. Pulled out the jumper and it only pays on 2 pair. Don't know whether this also causes a different payout on other chips. Thanks again. Gordy
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Gordy glad we got you going and welcome to NLG. :cool_thumb_up:
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Thanks. Should have said I pulled out the jumper and jacks or better came to life.
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Interesting. For whatever it's worth, on the Fortune I machines I've seen on location, they actually added a plaque that said something along the lines of, "Bet returned on a pair of Jacks or Better". That is, Jacks or Better wasn't listed on the original award glass, just the plaque added on as an after-thought. Perhaps the original machines weren't intended to pay 1-for-1 on JoB? If so, that would change the payback of a 9/6 JoB game from 99.54% payback to a "2 pair or better" game with an abysmal 81.36% payback.
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It was an after-thought, caused by player pressure and booklets by Lenny Fromm in the early 80s about the payback on 9/6 JOB. Think it was quicker and cheaper to attach the plaque and chips than buy and install new glass. IGT at that time probably charged $75 for the glass vs about $1 for the plaque. Think I have chips that read "2 Pair ". I can recall seeing players at a two pair type of payout and 6 feet away there was a 9/6 machine very lonely wondering why nobody was playing. Much later, the Gold Coast set up a 9/6 JOB $5 carousel with a progressive that lasted many years until ownership ordered 9/5 after a one or two month lower profit. Players went elsewhere and good friend Bob Geddes , after a two months, came up with a new pay schedule for the casino that helped but the sharp players played at other casinos with full 9/6 progressive. There were always enough players who played less than perfect strategy to make those progressives profitable. One wealthy lady would play when the progressive was positive [ $23,000 ], but she only went for the royal on most hands. Bob calculated her loss rate at something like 6 or 8K per hr, if I remember.
On a somewhat related subject Ceronix stopped fixing the monitor chassis about 4 months ago for Fort 1s , 2s, PEs etc The chassis is Model 1492 and luckily I have a few good ones available.
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Gordy:
Congratulations on getting that JOB mystery solved. I knew that you could do it.
Ra