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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally Alpha (Cinevision), and ALL Bally "V___" series - V5000, V2000, V1000, etc. => Topic started by: Ankitp23 on February 26, 2023, 07:44:57 PM
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I have Bally alpha 2 firelinks conversions, after couple of weeks or month I get a fatal error red box, turning the key twice will restart machine and usually fix The issue and it’s good to go for while, one time this happened and after turning the key twice I’m not receiving no signal to monitor (doesn’t even say no signal or going to power saving or nothing, complete black) and ideck says no signal, i replaced the cpu board and it swapped all parts from it, ( game, v card, power supply) it works after new cpu and clearing,
This same thing happened AGAIN to 2 of my other same game machines, FATAL ERROR AND AFTER TURNING KEY TWICE NO SIGNALS.
What is the cause or how to fix? Do I need a new cpu board everytime or it’s something else, like batteries or what
Please help thanks
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Is this a real Alpha 2 or a Frankenstein one?
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Frankinstine one, I attached photo of machine
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Contact support at https://gaming.lnw.com/
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Contact support at https://gaming.lnw.com/
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I’m new to this but I thought this forums was for helping people,
Any one with any ideas please thanks
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Post a picture of the board. Unlike IGT or SG,,
who only support licensed casinos, you can contact the supplier. I suggest checking the outputs on your power supply. My experience with offshore machines was that the power supplies were not always adjusted well. The ones I worked on had potentiometers to adjust, but it was beneficial to use a higher quality ps.
Thanks,
Wayne
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http://www.sunny-games.com/EnProduct.asp?EnBigClassName=Game%20PCB (http://www.sunny-games.com/EnProduct.asp?EnBigClassName=Game%20PCB)
https://m.alibaba.com/product/1600211396194/Fire-link-multigame-8in1-board-for.html (https://m.alibaba.com/product/1600211396194/Fire-link-multigame-8in1-board-for.html)
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If I replace the bottom board cpu from another same machine it works. The switch from old board the power supply, game, video card, only thing different is the bottom board.
See picture of the board and cpu.
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With the power [OFF], can you spin ALL the fans to move freely without resistance?
If not, install new ones...there are several fans that MUST be working correctly or the machine WILL shut down in an dire effort to save itself.
Old fans with bad bearings or clogged fins draw excessive power supply amperage.
You have fans in the power supply units, the cabinet, on the video card, monitors, all over the place.
Also, check the thermal paste under the processor chip heatsinks.
They dry up and harden over time and do not conduct cooling thru the paste as when new.
It's always good to spread new paste on old machine MPU's when you get them in.
Also, if you can, monitor all the different machine temperature sensors.
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When I plug in power cord all fans spin good,
Can’t monitor nothing cuz I can’t get any video signal to come up on monitor or ideak.
Doesn’t even say no signal or power saving on monitor. Just beeps 1 time when u turn the power on you hear all fans kick in when cpu is pushed back into backboard pins.
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I misunderstood the term Frankenstein as offshore. I'm sure others have some experience with Alpha 2 board issues, hopefully they see the post.
Thanks,
Wayne
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...when u turn the power on you hear all fans kick in when cpu is pushed back into backboard pins.
Let's clarify this statement you posted^^^^.
Are you pushing the CPU in, while the power switch is [ON] ?
That would be "hot-swapping".
I don't think that's a good idea.
Also, if you're not getting a video signal, the video graphics circuit card itself may be no good.
Swap that questionable video card out with a known-good graphics card.
The signal should come back to the displays, rather than changing out the entire mpu.
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No, Im no pushing it in while it’s powered on onto the back pins,
I pulled it out completely and have an extra power cord and plugged it in to see if all fans were spinning properly. I swapped the video card from other same working machines, still nothing,
I did this before and had to replace mpc, im trying to see if there is something besides the mpc.
Video isn’t coming on so is there a peice inside mpc (not the video card) I need to replace to see if that’s the cause of the problem??
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Does the questionable video card work in a known good machine?
That's the only way you can get video is thru that video card to the monitor.
Unless your cpu lost the video driver files somehow? :scratch-head_3:
I don't know how to load video driver files to a Bally Alpha cpu.
Is the hard drive dead?
I defer this to someone else.
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With 3 machines encountering this issue, I would question the circuit that is powering the machines. Not sure if a surge supressor would help, but something is hurting the mpu. I. If you send the bad boards to a repair shop, Perhaps they can shed a light on the affected component/ components.
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Please note that not everyone logs on every day. Hopefully someone with knowledge of alpha 2 mpu failures will log on, see this, and help. Could be a few days
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Contact support at https://gaming.lnw.com/
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There are a lot of Chinese knock-offs available for sale that use bootleg software that are considered skill games, not slot machines. (even though they call them slot machines) I'd keep clear of those.
Do you know what kind of monitor got swapped into it?
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This is original game just screen replaced, it’s official Bally cabinet and parts too.
I have 8 running currently. It just when fatal error came up and turning key it killed the video
And no signal on ideck
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That is an A2 22/22 cabinet with both 22" monitors, video topper, and super candle removed.
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Regardless of the cabinet configuration is, has anyone had board failures on the alpha2s? Are there any known issues out there? If anyone has this information, it may help.
Thanks,
Wayne
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Took both cpu’s out from non working machine and put them inside another working machine, Bally logo and loading screen came on (hard disk game from working machine.)
Then I took the working cpu that was from the machine mentioned above (completely working one) and put my hard disk game in no luck no signals on the machine that was down originally.
Then I took the working cpu and it’s working hard disk game (didn’t remove disk from cpu, machine that was working completely fine) to test it on the machine that wasn’t receiving signal and it still didn’t work on that machine.
THEN WTF
when putting back the working cpu (Intack hard disk) in the working machine again and now that’s not receiving any signal for display.
There is something going on or I missing it.
After leaving machine on for 8 mins or so on the ideck I get this writing (boot log) see picture
What’s going on….
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Some things I observed here:
1. Using hard drives on A2 MPU's (I've never seen that, it has always been SSD's. Not sure if this makes any difference, I would think not, but who knows for sure).
2. Since you are not even getting an image when you power up, I would test the monitor with a laptop to make sure the monitor is working right.
3. Replace the video cable, cheap enough to give it a try, plus you should always have spares anyway.
3. The message that the system could not find a monitor means, the video card is bad or it is not getting a valid EDID message and thus the video card does not output to the monitor since it doesn't know what it handle. This is sometimes the case with monitors that have not been specifically made to work with the alpha 2 hardware since the video card's bios expects certain resolutions and timings to be available before it starts up. Unsupported hardware will cause red screens when the system polls hardware for capabilities and it doesn't receive the expected message back.
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Your right, I mean SSD When I say hard drive.
When I pulled the cpu box out, do I need to pull out the video card and reinsert it into the cpu slot again?
I’ll try that tomorrow, I’ll try connecting laptop to monitor as well and new cables from working machines as well. But all of theses happening now on 3 machines….
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Fixed it, power supply to the monitor was bad,
That’s why no input or nothing was showing up on monitor,
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Good job! :applause:
I can mark this topic as Solved!
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The photo of the MPU you posted has a hard drive in it. SSD's do not look like that on the electronics side, you can see the silver circle where the platter spindle is centered on the photo.
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This is an old thread but I thought I'd reply too. I've fixed genuine Bally's via A/D board despite the boot sometimes working, sometimes going to 'no screens attached' fail. They never exhibited a visual monitor error.