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I have Bally alpha 2 firelinks conversions, after couple of weeks or month I get a fatal error red box, turning the key twice will restart machine and usually fix The issue and it’s good to go for while,  one time this happened and after turning the key twice I’m not receiving no signal to monitor (doesn’t even say no signal or going to power saving or nothing, complete black) and ideck says no signal, i replaced the cpu board and it swapped all parts from it, ( game, v card, power supply) it works after new cpu and clearing,

This same thing happened AGAIN to 2 of my other same game machines, FATAL ERROR AND AFTER TURNING KEY TWICE NO SIGNALS.
What is the cause or how to fix? Do I need a new cpu board everytime or it’s something else, like batteries or what
Please help thanks

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2023, 08:07:41 PM »
Is this a real Alpha 2 or a Frankenstein one?
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2023, 08:09:08 PM »
Frankinstine one, I attached photo of machine

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2023, 12:38:08 AM »
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2023, 05:16:33 AM »
I’m new to this but I thought this forums was for helping people,
Any one with any ideas please thanks

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2023, 06:53:22 AM »
Post a picture of the board.  Unlike IGT or SG,,
who only support licensed casinos,  you can contact the supplier.  I suggest checking the outputs on your power supply. My experience with offshore machines was that the power supplies were not always adjusted well. The ones I worked on had potentiometers to adjust, but it was beneficial to use a higher quality ps.

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2023, 07:31:07 AM »
If I replace the bottom board cpu from another same machine it works. The switch from old board the power supply, game, video card,  only thing different is the bottom board.
See picture of the board and cpu.
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2023, 08:04:47 AM »
With the power [OFF], can you spin ALL the fans to move freely without resistance?
If not, install new ones...there are several fans that MUST be working correctly or the machine WILL shut down in an dire effort to save itself.
Old fans with bad bearings or clogged fins draw excessive power supply amperage.
You have fans in the power supply units, the cabinet, on the video card, monitors, all over the place.

Also, check the thermal paste under the processor chip heatsinks.
They dry up and harden over time and do not conduct cooling thru the paste as when new.
It's always good to spread new paste on old machine MPU's when you get them in.
Also, if you can, monitor all the different machine temperature sensors.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2023, 08:25:13 AM by Stayouttadabunker »
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2023, 08:08:16 AM »
When I plug in power cord all fans spin good,
Can’t monitor nothing cuz I can’t get any video signal to come up on monitor or ideak.
Doesn’t even say no signal or power saving on monitor. Just beeps 1 time when u turn the power on you hear all fans kick in when cpu is pushed back into backboard pins.

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2023, 08:34:08 AM »
I misunderstood the term Frankenstein as offshore. I'm sure others have some experience with Alpha 2 board issues, hopefully they see the post.

Thanks,
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2023, 08:56:25 AM »
...when u turn the power on you hear all fans kick in when cpu is pushed back into backboard pins.

Let's clarify this statement you posted^^^^.
Are you pushing the CPU in, while the power switch is [ON] ?
That would be "hot-swapping".
I don't think that's a good idea.

Also, if you're not getting a video signal, the video graphics circuit card itself may be no good.
Swap that questionable video card out with a known-good graphics card.
The signal should come back to the displays, rather than changing out the entire mpu.




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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2023, 09:20:18 AM »
No, Im no pushing it in while it’s powered on onto the back pins,
I pulled it out completely and have an extra power cord and plugged it in to see if all fans were spinning properly.   I swapped the video card from other same working machines, still nothing,
I did this before and had to replace mpc,  im trying to see if there is something besides the mpc.
Video isn’t coming on so is there a peice inside mpc (not the video card) I need to replace to see if that’s the cause of the problem??

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2023, 09:45:11 AM »
Does the questionable video card work in a known good machine?
That's the only way you can get video is thru that video card to the monitor.

Unless your cpu lost the video driver files somehow?  :scratch-head_3:
I don't know how to load video driver files to a Bally Alpha cpu.
Is the hard drive dead?
I defer this to someone else.
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2023, 10:10:08 AM »
With 3 machines encountering this issue,  I would question the circuit that is powering the machines.  Not sure if a surge supressor would help, but something is hurting the mpu. I. If you send the bad boards to a repair shop, Perhaps they can shed a light on the affected component/ components.

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2023, 10:26:14 AM »
Please note that not everyone logs on every day. Hopefully someone with knowledge of alpha 2 mpu failures will log on, see this, and help. Could be a few days

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2023, 11:26:29 AM »
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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2023, 11:28:58 AM »
This is original game just screen replaced, it’s official Bally cabinet and parts too.
I have 8 running currently. It just when fatal error came up and turning key it killed the video
And no signal on ideck

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Re: Bally alpha 2 conversion firelink fatal error no signal afterwards
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2023, 11:38:46 AM »
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