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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2018, 07:27:28 AM »
I stocked up on Molex plug accessories, after further inspection  I noticed repairs that were done by someone who didn't have the proper tools. I have everything I thought until I started reading about Molex plugs. That will be a lifesaver in restoring this slot machine.


As for the extra holes, i will have to plug them, and blend them in to the cabinet. The Formica cleaning will take awhile, I have some repair material ordered.


I noticed the key override or reset was damaged, actually it was the wires, electrical was ripped out since I'm going to restore this my plan is to rekey the doors and key reset alike to one key.


The power cord was damaged, im working on replacing that, with a way to service the slot machine removed from the base with a disconnect in place. The slot machine will be bolted down on the base like the factory.


This is a beginning to a great restoration. :)





Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2018, 03:40:23 PM »
No clue what this numbered chingaderas is used for, I will be pleased to get the book on this.  :fryingpan:

From what I understand, Bally used the same parts from pinball machines for the slots... they just left the "number wheel" on!
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2018, 04:26:02 PM »
No clue what this numbered chingaderas is used for, I will be pleased to get the book on this.  :fryingpan:

From what I understand, Bally used the same parts from pinball machines for the slots... they just left the "number wheel" on!


Wow thats one way to mess with someone who is restoring this slot machine.  :24:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2018, 07:10:05 PM »
Does anyone have a resource where I can finfinad a new 122-105 transformer. I would like to replace this one if I can. What is the output of the transformer, ac, dc, 12v, 6v, etc.


When I'm testing the lights, what source of power/voltage is generated by the coil so I can set up a test station.   :Scratch-Head:


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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2018, 08:08:18 AM »
I started servicing the equipment
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2018, 09:40:52 PM »
Serviced the arm mechanism, it was really bad.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2018, 10:04:51 PM »
Does anyone have a resource where I can finfinad a new 122-105 transformer. I would like to replace this one if I can. What is the output of the transformer, ac, dc, 12v, 6v, etc.
When I'm testing the lights, what source of power/voltage is generated by the coil so I can set up a test station.   :Scratch-Head:
Thanks.
Is there a problem with the transformer? Those 122-105 transformers can be hard to find. New may be almost impossible. I might know a person that may have one, but not sure what condition it's in.
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2018, 07:23:40 AM »
I thought i could get a transformer for diagnosis, I didn't know they were rare. Thanks.   :duh:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2018, 08:27:54 AM »
You don't see them go bad very often, and usually when they do it's because someone put too high of an amp fuse in the machine. Then it's easy to tell because the transformer over heats and the transformer will have a melt down. Makes a big mess.
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2018, 11:37:49 AM »
Thanks
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2018, 12:10:31 PM »
You don't see them go bad very often, and usually when they do it's because someone put too high of an amp fuse in the machine. Then it's easy to tell because the transformer over heats and the transformer will have a melt down. Makes a big mess.


Can you tell me the correct fuses and i will get them for the slot machine.


Thats stupid putting in larger fuses it defeats the purpose of the fuse.  :duh:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2018, 12:33:24 PM »
Found a belly glass, the one that the machine has was chipped.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2018, 06:47:45 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2018, 12:35:54 PM »
Im having to clean the contacts they are definitely used.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2018, 01:04:21 PM »
You don't see them go bad very often, and usually when they do it's because someone put too high of an amp fuse in the machine. Then it's easy to tell because the transformer over heats and the transformer will have a melt down. Makes a big mess.
Can you tell me the correct fuses and i will get them for the slot machine.
Thats stupid putting in larger fuses it defeats the purpose of the fuse.  :duh:
Most of the machines have or had a sticker on the fuse block or right above it with the correct fuse amp needed per voltage. Your main line fuse 110v usually 3 or 5 amp. The 50v for coil is 5-8 amp. The you have the 6V, I've seen those as high as 10 amp to 5 amp depending on how many small bulbs you have. If you can located a schematic for you machine, it will have the correct amp per voltage.
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2018, 03:24:44 PM »
You don't see them go bad very often, and usually when they do it's because someone put too high of an amp fuse in the machine. Then it's easy to tell because the transformer over heats and the transformer will have a melt down. Makes a big mess.
Can you tell me the correct fuses and i will get them for the slot machine.
Thats stupid putting in larger fuses it defeats the purpose of the fuse.  :duh:
Most of the machines have or had a sticker on the fuse block or right above it with the correct fuse amp needed per voltage. Your main line fuse 110v usually 3 or 5 amp. The 50v for coil is 5-8 amp. The you have the 6V, I've seen those as high as 10 amp to 5 amp depending on how many small bulbs you have. If you can located a schematic for you machine, it will have the correct amp per voltage.


Thanks, no sticker, however when this is restored  I will it  mark it correctly. I'm trying to locate a schematic for it, that would help correcting the wires.  :odie:
« Last Edit: May 28, 2018, 06:48:44 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2018, 08:37:59 PM »
I'm in the process of restoring the door:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2018, 11:45:17 PM »
Hello,




Nice job, I follow this restauration  :yes:
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2018, 07:24:35 AM »
I've got the door wiring cleaned up from any "non factory" wiring addition . Basically its back to normal.


This one photo is a 1090 thats in really good condition with the wiring and placement.

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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2018, 03:51:57 PM »

On to the reels.

I checked every wheel for the correct depth to the symbol on the reel and its dead on, every reel is on target, and the reels are in order.

Now, I need to check the next part.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: Detailed Restoration of a Bally 1090
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2018, 08:50:56 PM »
Well, it took me two days to figure out the reels and fixing a problem that others couldn't figure out. The number one reel was not spinning.


The major problem was grease goop that hardened up, then after studying the mechanism for hours I figured out the way it spins the reels. After that and knowing everything was working correctly, aligned, I adjusted the stop back 1/8" and all three reels work, the payout is correct and I'm really happy.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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