Author Topic: Newbie questions Frog Prince Board identification / Chipset (Read 4254 times)

Tom1969 · « **on:** June 20, 2021, 09:41:00 PM »

Hi,

Ihave no experience with Reel Touch Games. But brought some IGT S+ back to live

qbert · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2021, 03:55:52 AM »

You must determine what software is in the top box to be able to identify the proper chip set required.
Without the MPU tray installed power up the machine and see if the top box displays anything.
If the top box is in order it should eventually (after about 7 minutes) come to a screen that says initializising please wait.
Are there reels and reel strips in the machine?
Show a picture of the inside of the machine.
This will be a project.

Tom1969 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2021, 09:09:42 AM »

Thank you for your first quick response.

I will try it when I am ready with cleaningâ€¦â€¦Also Batteries need to be exchangedâ€¦. all of them are empty..

I added some pictures from the inside and some Infos on the LCD where itâ€™s mentioned with BGM and ATA should be inâ€¦.

Yes reels and glass also is availableâ€¦

Also a bill acceptor is thereâ€¦

So when Iâ€™m ready with cleaning try to start up and follow your adviceâ€¦and then come back to you

If you have any further hint I would appreciate it

Regards
Tom

Tom1969 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 03, 2021, 02:29:03 AM »

Hi,

changed Battery on Topbox. Set Time and advanced settings. No it stuck at initializingâ€¦.see pictures.

BIOS with a Star. BGM 20209 ATA20045 Frog Prince 75 Credits

Now the question again which chipset I need ?

Any advice is appreciated

Thanks
Tom

qbert · « **Reply #4 on:** July 03, 2021, 02:59:08 AM »

OK looks pretty good so far. You saved load optimized settings when you had keyboard hooked to top box I am assuming.
I have just a few more questions:
1) Do you know if the lower CPU that you currently have came with the machine and was the machine operating in Europe with Euros?
2) Are you expecting to operate your machine on Euros?
I ask this because the VS011GX1 on the MPU will only work with US denominations and would also have to be changed to an international VS chip. ( and will also affect what other game chips that I recommend).
Almost there good work so far!
Rich

Tom1969 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2021, 03:07:11 AM »

Hi Rich

yes the MPU comes with the machine but I have never seen it workingâ€¦..but it was used with Euros. Coin comparator is for Euros and Multidenom is also Euros..

And yes I want to use it with Eurosâ€¦

Would be great if you can provide me the right chipsets for thatâ€¦

Thanks
Tom

qbert · « **Reply #6 on:** July 03, 2021, 03:24:21 AM »

I looked again and you have a VS011IX1 and that is an international chip so you are good there.
I am having some difficulty how do you know you have ATA20045 and BGM20209?
I ask because ATA20045 is usually a bios 1(red, white, and blue finger screen and not the energy star you have in the picture. This is critical information

Tom1969 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 03, 2021, 03:41:16 AM »

There is a label on the LCD see pictureâ€¦

But when the LCD boots is BIOS 2 Star like on the Pictureâ€¦.

Should I try to find something on the HDD itself of you have a different Idea ?

Tom1969 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 03, 2021, 03:44:21 AM »

Picture from Label

qbert · « **Reply #9 on:** July 03, 2021, 04:25:35 AM »

Yes take a look at the hard itself and see if anything is written on it. Not uncommon as these machines are nearly 20 years old and it probably does not have the original hard drive or top box.
That being said I have NOT tested this configuration but I believe SG000310 and SB000563 would be my best guess for the chip sets you need.

Tom1969 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2021, 04:57:16 AM »

I will try itâ€¦.

Thanks
Tom

Tom1969 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2021, 09:26:07 AM »

Hi together,

Update.

So I tried SB000563 and SG000310.

Comes up with an RAM Error. Could not reset via Reset Key â€¦ No Reaktion â€¦Should come to the point Press Test switchâ€¦never reached.

Then I cleared with Clear 224. Wait until 2 amber lights come up. Go back to Sb 563 . Then it comes up with short message Display Netplex link is down. Switched to RAM Error. Also no reset via Reset Key possibleâ€¦Add picture from MPU lights.. 2 are not light upâ€¦

Also without any SB and SG chips upper monitor come up until initialization. Now upper PC is not starting up at allâ€¦

Any recommendations or hints appreciated

Tom

qbert · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2021, 10:15:33 AM »

Chips in the correct orientation?
No bent pins?
Picture of the chips installed on the board would be good.
VFD only states RAM error nothing else?
Verify jackpot key switch is hooked up and switch is working.

qbert · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2021, 10:25:11 AM »

Also if you remove the lower MPU and turn the machine on does the top box boot?

Tom1969 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2021, 01:09:36 PM »

Hi again,

without sb and sg chips top box boots up unit initialisation.

Then installed chips . Top box still boots. But VFD mentioned direct Ram Error. No reset with jackpot key possibleâ€¦ Checked jackpot switch and kable connection to jackpot switch. Ok.

Then cleared maschine with 224. Started normal ,wait until 2 amber lights come up. Changed back to SB. Started again, on VFD short massage Netplex link is down jumped to memory check ended with Ram Errorâ€¦nothing elseâ€¦

On the picture itâ€™s mentioned SB536 but itâ€™s SW SB563 on itâ€¦ checked againâ€¦

Maybe wrong SB Version ? Found in the overview two further one for Frog 15 L 75 Max Reel Touch Sb 497 and 503

What is controlling the Netplex connection Base Chip or Game Chip ? Maybe can try to reprogram the critical one.

Regards
Tom

Tom1969 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2021, 01:12:24 PM »

Pictures from MPU lights before mounting SB and SG chips

qbert · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2021, 03:29:59 PM »

So are you saying the SB chip is labeled incorrectly?
How are you sure? What is the ChkSum?
A SB000536 is a Larry Lobster chip.
SB503 is for new frog Prince with BGM20205 (usually bios 1) you can try it. Hard to say without knowing BGM.
I can test to see if 563/310/IX0 will boot on one of my machines.

Tom1969 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 15, 2021, 02:17:14 AM »

Hi again,

thank you first for the quick responsesâ€¦

Here my Homework doneâ€¦

Checked SB again itâ€™s a 563 CHK034E also gamechips checked again are 310 gme1 CHK 5A70 and Gme2 CHK A062.

BGM checked again. Checked HDD in Topbox and is same date and there is a serialnumber on it which fits to complete serial number. See pictures. So my assumption is that it was not changed. Also add picture from label where the Version is mentioned againâ€¦.

Thank you that you try out that setup on your machine. Please keep me posted about the results

Thank you for the great support

Tom

qbert · « **Reply #18 on:** July 15, 2021, 04:11:36 AM »

ChkSum on SG000310 game 1 should be 5AF0.
I would suspect a corrupt chip.
The others appear to be correct.

Editor's note: VS011iX1 was corrupt and replaced.

Tom1969 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 15, 2021, 05:25:01 AM »

Typo from my sideâ€¦

It is 5AF0â€¦

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