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Title: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 10, 2023, 01:31:31 PM
Hi all!!!

Since I have a working machine, do I have to do a clear to get into the settings menu on this machine?

I used this video for the initial setup before TITO@HOME board was purchased, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbiDhOOriY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbiDhOOriY) but now I need to change more settings for TITO. I do have the additional TITO settings printed out.

The current settings are default except for these....

47   0000  Attract feature (off)
56   0000  Credit lockup upon collect
51   9999  Max credit
58   9999  Win lockup
73   0000  Voucher validation    (looks like this one will need to be changed to 0003)
61   0002  Payout printer only   (I believe this one will need to be changed also)?   I think he said this is the hand pay setting.
81   0000  No coin acceptor
68   0002  Prosound

The machine works fine, but cash out goes to hand pay. That definitely wont' work with TITO.

Thanks, Mark

Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 11, 2023, 07:42:29 AM
What year are the mains U28 and U43? They need to be 2005 and newer for TITO
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 11, 2023, 08:17:26 AM
I have no idea what year they are, the ID tag says that the machine was manufactured on 07-05. They have handwritten stickers on them... U43 U28

I assume they aren't the original mains.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 11, 2023, 11:11:23 AM
If you have all these option numbers for settings,  then the chips are correct. 
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 11, 2023, 11:14:58 AM
Hi all!!!

Since I have a working machine, do I have to do a clear to get into the settings menu on this machine?

I used this video for the initial setup before TITO@HOME board was purchased, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbiDhOOriY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLbiDhOOriY) but now I need to change more settings for TITO. I do have the additional TITO settings printed out.

The current settings are default except for these....

47   0000  Attract feature (off)
56   0000  Credit lockup upon collect == Set to 8000
51   9999  Max credit
58   9999  Win lockup
73   0000  Voucher validation    (looks like this one will need to be changed to 0003)
61   0002  Payout printer only   (I believe this one will need to be changed also)?   I think he said this is the hand pay setting.
81   0000  No coin acceptor
68   0002  Prosound

The machine works fine, but cash out goes to hand pay. That definitely wont' work with TITO.

Thanks, Mark
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 11, 2023, 06:27:42 PM
Yes, I have the correct setting numbers available. My mains appear to be 2005 or newer.

I'm somewhat confused with incorporating my currently working settings (1st post) with the required TITO settings. The only obvious conflict that I see is #73... That is the only setting number that is on both lists, it will need to be set to 0003

Also, I don't see a printer setting on the TITO settings, and it obviously needs to be on to print the vouchers.

My machine is a basic 25 cent coinless setup with a BV, and printer. Does anyone have a complete list of the additional settings needed for this setup? I have the list of required TITO settings mentioned in the 3rd post.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 11, 2023, 07:36:45 PM
Are you sure the printer is working?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 12, 2023, 07:14:01 AM
Are you sure the printer is working?

This machine was acquired with a dead battery in non-working condition. I replaced the battery and programmed the slot with the suggested settings from the video/list in my first post. It always goes to Hand Pay, so I have never seen the printer working.

Setting #61 is currently set to 0002 (printer only) and I assume should remain this way?

For some reason I thought #61 controlled the Hand Pay. Looking thru the manual it appears that setting #56 (currently set at 0000) is actually what forces my machine into Hand Pay? I assume that #56 should be set to match #67 (maximum voucher pay), and the printer should work?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 12, 2023, 07:56:22 AM
Yes on #56.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 13, 2023, 08:02:52 AM
Correction to post #5

It appears that I'm missing a few setting numbers for the TITO setup....

#29
#17
#19HI
#19LO
#92   I only have 0000 and 0001 available, it needs to be set at 0003

Will these options be available with 2005 and newer mains?

Searching for new mains online I only find two options, leave-in mains, and mains with printer support. There is no mention of the year. (2005 or newer)
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 13, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
Correct.  You need newer mains. I  may have a set. PM if want to purchase.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 13, 2023, 09:44:30 PM
Correct.  You need newer mains. I  may have a set. PM if want to purchase.

Thanks for the offer, I ordered some that I was told will work with TITO. They were advertised as "Bally S6000 U28 and U43 Mains w/Printer support"
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 14, 2023, 07:32:55 AM
I believe those will be 2003 version, which the printer will work but they won't have the options to use TITO.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: a69mopar on November 14, 2023, 07:55:24 AM
what number is on your current main set?  S6M1MM180008-00 U28 L05-2923 CS-26FC ST 2005 BALLY 10-17 and S6M4MM1B0008-00 U43 CS-400 BALLY 10-17-2005  cs-0400?

Thanks,
Wayne
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 14, 2023, 08:03:24 AM
what number is on your current main set?  S6M1MM180008-00 U28 L05-2923 CS-26FC ST 2005 BALLY 10-17 and S6M4MM1B0008-00 U43 CS-400 BALLY 10-17-2005  cs-0400?

Thanks,
Wayne

The ones I currently have that are obviously older have handwritten stickers on them (U28 U43)

Are you talking about numbers under the stickers?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 14, 2023, 08:04:08 AM
I believe those will be 2003 version, which the printer will work but they won't have the options to use TITO.

We'll see when they get here, I specifically asked if they were the 2005 or newer version because I wanted to use them with a TITO@HOME system.

I've printed a combined list of settings for a coinless setup (in order) that I'll post after verification that it works. Hopefully it can help someone else in the future.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: a69mopar on November 14, 2023, 08:10:25 AM
This is one I wrote for someone a while back.  Free credit option
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 14, 2023, 08:22:13 AM
My current mains I believe start with 27 on the setup menu.

The setup menu that I printed from the manual starts with 09 and has all the options listed/needed for TITO.... I assume this is the newer version???
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: a69mopar on November 14, 2023, 08:25:35 AM
the 11d menu starts at option 27, if you printed one that started at 09, then you missed some. option 27 then 26 then 09...
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 14, 2023, 08:38:20 AM
My mistake,  :duh: 27 and 26 are at the bottom of the first column in the manual. 

There was an old list of options (PDF) that I printed from a past thread that didn't have all the TITO options. Were there two different manuals.... pre and post 2005 ?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 17, 2023, 02:54:45 PM
My new Bally S6000 main chips arrived today and they are the same as the ones I want to replace. They are missing the settings for TITO listed below…

92   SAS Bonusing      should be set to 0003, but it only offers 0000 and 0001 for options

The next 4 settings are missing completely…

19HI    Asset Number
19LO   Asset Number
17       Set SAS Version
29       AFT Registration

Are there different switch/jumper settings needed to access these missing settings? I specifically told the seller that I needed 2005 or newer mains to be used with a TITO setup.

Thanks, Mark
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 17, 2023, 03:09:59 PM
The mains have the different options available.  You need verified 2005 or newer mains in order to get the options to use TITO. No other settings have anything to do with accessing those options. Printer Support mains  are 2003  which allows the printer to work but not have options for TITO.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 17, 2023, 08:56:46 PM
Correct.  You need newer mains. I  may have a set. PM if want to purchase.

I'll take you up on your offer, I'm tired of dealing with this other guy with a website that insists his mains are correct when they truly aren't.

His messages got downright rude and accusatory before I just cut it off. I'd like to OUT the person, but this isn't the place to do that. :hissyfit:

Does Bettor Slots version of TITO require the newer mains, I assume it does?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Tilt on November 17, 2023, 09:35:28 PM
I see you've met JJ slots  :24:
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 17, 2023, 09:40:51 PM
I see you've met JJ slots  :24:

You are correct, we're still going at it.  :yes: :banghead:

Just consider it $20 down the drain.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Tilt on November 17, 2023, 09:50:16 PM
Good luck.  I dealt with him on ebay a few years back.  He sold me a bunch of defective sim cards and refused to take them back.  Left me negative feedback over it too.   Ebay got involved and got my money back. 
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 17, 2023, 09:55:50 PM
He claims that TITO@HOME requires newer mains, and Bettor Slots TITO doesn't.

Is this true? I thought the setup for both was identical?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Tilt on November 17, 2023, 10:06:01 PM
No,  they both use the same SAS settings. 
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 17, 2023, 10:22:43 PM
Are these newer mains really that hard to find? The missing settings are listed in the later version of the Bally ProSlot 6000 manual. I did see a 2003 version also, and they aren't listed there.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Tilt on November 17, 2023, 10:38:35 PM
No, they're readily available.  Didn't Sunrise side have a set?  If not, RB probably does.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 18, 2023, 08:11:44 AM
I will check today on a newer set of mains. All TITO's need the newer mains to work. JJ's mains with printer support are for printer only, no TITO, as you already know. I will get back to you on the mains.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 18, 2023, 08:17:23 AM
Thank you!!!

I'm definitely done dealing with JJ slots in the future.  :yes:
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 18, 2023, 09:41:23 PM
I will check today on a newer set of mains. All TITO's need the newer mains to work. JJ's mains with printer support are for printer only, no TITO, as you already know. I will get back to you on the mains.

New mains found, thanks to Sunrise Side!!!  :applause:
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 24, 2023, 09:51:32 PM
The new mains arrived, and I finally have all the settings available for TITO

A couple strange things happening though... 2 or 3 of the accounting counters in the top section are just clicking away counting something very quickly... nonstop???  Second thing is that I can't add credits with the change button, it goes straight to JP HAND PAY. I followed all the directions for setup.  :Scratch-Head:
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 25, 2023, 07:24:47 AM
In 11d is your limits 56 set to 8000 ?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 25, 2023, 07:38:48 AM
Yes it is.

What would cause the counters in the top section to go non-stop? It looks like they can simply be unplugged if not needed for some other purpose.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: a69mopar on November 25, 2023, 08:08:31 AM
how many credits do you have the tito set for? If it adds too many credits, it will go to hand pay.  the counters are probably trying to catch up from the credits in as well as payout.
I believe the switches on the tito@home need to be set to off for 1000 credits.


Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: a69mopar on November 25, 2023, 08:16:13 AM
Attached is Brian's instructions. It's probably on the forum already, but I thought I'd add it.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 25, 2023, 08:21:22 AM
Unplug the counters
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 25, 2023, 08:33:21 AM
I have Brian's instructions printed and programmed as described. It prints and accepts vouchers ok. I need to recheck the dip-switch settings on the TITO board, I believe they are both in the ON position.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 25, 2023, 08:49:04 AM
The dipswitch on the TITO board is what needs to be changed to resolve your handpay issue.
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 25, 2023, 10:51:35 AM
The dipswitch on the TITO board is what needs to be changed to resolve your handpay issue.

You were correct, with both switches ON it was trying to add 10,000 credits. I changed the switches to (1 ON) and (2 OFF) and now it adds 1000 credits each time. TITO is working fine!!!! The counters in the top section eventually catch up and stop, I'll disconnect them next time I have the glass off.

Thanks again everyone!!!!!  :cool_thumb_up:
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 26, 2023, 07:30:51 AM
Is there a setting to make the added credits (via change button) apply instantaneously on the Bally S6000 like they do on an IGT S2000 with a TITO board?
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Sunrise Side on November 26, 2023, 08:43:09 AM
Try pressing the max bet or spin button after you press the service button
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Pinaddicted on November 26, 2023, 02:28:02 PM
Pushing the spin button did the trick.

Thanks
Title: Re: Setting up TITO@HOME on a working Bally S6000
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on November 26, 2023, 04:18:30 PM
I will mark this topic as Solved then.
Good job!  :applause:
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