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Title: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: shortrackskater on January 09, 2018, 11:08:47 AM
I knew this would eventually happen... found my own slot machine I sold a few years back on Craigslist. If I'm recalling correctly, I think she listed it just a few months after she bought it and then the ad went away. The location is the same so I think it's the same owner. Funny thing was she told me she was buying it for her boyfriend to keep him from gambling in Vegas.  :rotfl:
Perhaps her plan didn't work out?
And she's asking more than I sold it for.  :hissyfit:
I doubt she'll get anything close to that amount, especially around here with the glut of slots on CL.
It even comes with a "cash receptor."

https://orangecounty.craigslist.org/for/d/triple-butterfly-sevens-5/6453233232.html

Triple Butterfly Sevens 5 Reel Slot Machine in perfect Condition.
Has cash receptor and ticket printer
Have all keys
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: jay on January 09, 2018, 02:33:26 PM
I thought slot sales in California were illegal - isn't an Orange County CL a bad place to be advertising her goods.
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: smoothgrh on January 09, 2018, 04:11:24 PM
I thought slot sales in California were illegal - isn't an Orange County CL a bad place to be advertising her goods.

SHHHHH!!!!!
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: shortrackskater on January 09, 2018, 05:24:35 PM
"Under California law, slot machines are illegal, with a number of limited exceptions. (See, e.g., Penal Code, §§ 330a – 330.9.) ... Does not apply to an "antique slot machine" that is 25 years or older and is not being operated for gambling purposes."

All mine are 1993 and older.  :propeller:
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: rokgpsman on January 09, 2018, 05:43:15 PM
I thought slot sales in California were illegal - isn't an Orange County CL a bad place to be advertising her goods.

Not illegal in California, just restricted by age of machine:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_state_slot_machine_ownership_regulations

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Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: speedbump on January 13, 2018, 04:51:09 PM
My mother asked me to sell her slot machine years ago.  It was kind of a white elephant you rarely see.  Over the years Iv'e seen it pop up twice locally on Craig's list from two different sellers.   I guess they make the rounds.
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: speedbump on January 17, 2018, 02:46:18 PM
"Under California law, slot machines are illegal, with a number of limited exceptions. (See, e.g., Penal Code, §§ 330a – 330.9.) ... Does not apply to an "antique slot machine" that is 25 years or older and is not being operated for gambling purposes."

All mine are 1993 and older.  :propeller:

Actually, California law has become even more ambiguous but in favor of the collector.

As collectors of the old mechanical machines know, in Japan, back in the 1960s &70s, Sega duplicated the old Mills mechanical machines for use in military bases over there.  Many were later bought up and shipped to Nevada where they were used as replacement parts and to manufacture "new" antique mills machines when California legalized antique slots and the collecting craze began.

In the early to mid 1980s, the San Jose Police Department raided a store in their city and confiscated a number of slot machines claiming that 50% or more of them were manufactured with new and not "antique" parts as required by law.  The owner sued, demanding the return of his antique machine and the case wound its way to the Appellate Court.  They ruling was most interesting.

They found that California law was unconstitutionally vague as  it did not define what constituted an "antique slot machine."  It further pointed out that when a law is found to be unconstitutionally vague it is usually declared to be null and void, but to do so would deny protection to thousands of Californians who have  purchased what they believed to be antique slot machines and possibly subject them to prosecution for possessing them.  So instead, the court ruled that the law should be an ambiguous exception to a penal statute that  must be construed liberally in favor of persons seeking its protections and ordered the return of the machines.  The court further commented that Since even slot machines conclusively presumed to be antique under the statute are illegal if utilized for gambling purposes, there is no reason for concern that our disposition in this case will open a loophole sanctioning illegal gambling.

https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/3d/158/168.html

Since then, a few shops have opened up selling newer that 25 year old machines.  Here is one of our locals  https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/vgm/d/hesperia-slot-machines-sales/6455887273.html

The only hitch is, to ensure there is no gambling they have no pay hoppers or ticket printers.  Instead, you must use a reset key to clear the credits from the machine.   
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: rokgpsman on January 17, 2018, 04:24:00 PM
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Since then, a few shops have opened up selling newer that 25 year old machines.  Here is one of our locals  https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/vgm/d/hesperia-slot-machines-sales/6455887273.html

The only hitch is, to ensure there is no gambling they have no pay hoppers or ticket printers.  Instead, you must use a reset key to clear the credits from the machine.   

But the slot machine ad you mentioned says the machines accept and drop coins??   :Scratch-Head:

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Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: speedbump on January 17, 2018, 04:26:43 PM
I am guessing they are pre 93.  I have not followed up with the dealer.  You will have to contact him and ask.

Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: shortrackskater on January 17, 2018, 05:53:47 PM
That one shown is not pre 1993 - looks like an s2000, but still I wonder if "coins" could also be a somewhat vague term? Is a token a coin?  :Scratch-Head:

"A coin is a small, flat, (usually) round piece of metal or plastic used primarily as a medium of exchange or legal tender. They are standardized in weight, and produced in large quantities at a mint in order to facilitate trade. They are most often issued by a government."

Still, thanks for the info speedbump.  :wave: That was interesting and informative.
There's a couple dealers I've seen on CL advertising blatantly newish machines though. I think the feds have better things to do although I did hear of a local Vietnamese bar not far from where I live that had a few slot machines confiscated... BUT they were using them specifically for gambling.
Funny I LOVE the "find and fix" of the slot machine but I really don't play them too often!
Title: Re: Funny when you find your own slot machine on CL!
Post by: rokgpsman on January 17, 2018, 06:32:36 PM
I am guessing they are pre 93.  I have not followed up with the dealer.  You will have to contact him and ask.

Maybe he has a mix of older and not so old machines, and the older ones are those that take & drop coins.
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