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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 01:49:45 PM

Title: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 01:49:45 PM
I have an S+ here I would like to make some changes to maybe someone can guide me..... The DBA dont work so im stuck manually adding coins which is a pain. what I would like to do is set it up so all surplus coins added beyond the max bet of 5 adds up on the credit meter and also have all wins add up on the credit meter then dump from the hopper when the cash out button is pushed.... how can i do this ???


Thanks
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: RB on October 07, 2017, 01:57:01 PM
Use SP1137 if it's compatible with your game type which you did not specify.
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: knagl on October 07, 2017, 02:57:09 PM
We might be able to help you to get the bill validator working again if you can give us some more details about why you say it isn't working.  :propeller:
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 03:18:58 PM
machines a 5x pay 5 credit max .... model on tag says 96400300
bill unit comes on and cycles when unots powered up but its not smooth sounding as it cycles, I had the head out nothing is blocking  transport area or stacking potion i could see. gears and rollers on head turn smooth..... when games on and a bill is introduced to it it dont even attempt to accept it
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Shaggy on October 07, 2017, 04:32:08 PM
The SP1137 will work for the type 0 machine (which is what you have) to allow more credits for the coins inserted. You may just need to use a Set 15 to enable the bill validator for the SP731.









Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 04:56:25 PM
im having a hard time navigating that menu.... im not clear on what i am seeing on the displays as i go through it......... can someone make that more clear please ??


Thanks
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 06:24:23 PM
A couple of things right off the bat looking at the PSR. for the bill validator, looks like you need to make sure country code is correct. you will need #37. if not you will need a set chip other than set 015. You need a set086 for that chip.

SP1137 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 (Tournament), ID023, SET086, $0.01/0.02, (Supports Montana-style "Semi Euro credit" (setting 5) or Tokenization (setting 7).), 9 paylines - SAS ECT

If you don't want to bother with bills, make sure no tournament options are enabled and you will be able to set tolkenization of coins. (Example 1 coin for 99 credits)
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 06:31:26 PM
A couple of things right off the bat looking at the PSR. for the bill validator, looks like you need to make sure country code is correct. you will need #37. if not you will need a set chip other than set 015. You need a set086 for that chip.

SP1137 Type 0,1,4,5,12,0/14 (Tournament), ID023, SET086, $0.01/0.02, (Supports Montana-style "Semi Euro credit" (setting 5) or Tokenization (setting 7).), 9 paylines - SAS ECT

If you don't want to bother with bills, make sure no tournament options are enabled and you will be able to set tolkenization of coins. (Example 1 coin for 99 credits)


From how I read it press test button to scroll though menus 0-3 use key to go through pages of those menus and buttons to change values ........ when I'm in 0 mode and hit key switch I can't get past 3 I must be doing something wrong ...... when I got this machine batt was dead so most likely it lost the settings for the dba.. what am I doing wrong trying to scroll through them??? Where does it show what page I am on ?? Which display ?? Win ,credit ,played ??


Thx
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 06:39:27 PM
I'm reading through psr now. usually it's press test button 3x to get to zero group menu. From there you use the jackpot reset, and spin button to navigate and change settings
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 06:48:20 PM
I'll try that quick hang tite
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 06:49:53 PM
Credits played should be group 0, Winner paid should be page, and credits should show what setting is selected, and where you can make changes with spin button.
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 06:52:42 PM
Instead of going to page 17 it goes from 16 to reading
1111 0000 then to
5.  2
6.  1
7.  1
8.   1.  Ect
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 06:54:12 PM
Once in group zero, use jackpot key to advance through group, do not use test button until done
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
That's what I did
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 07:08:22 PM
Ok, I think I have a similar chip, I'll go look to be sure
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 07:14:08 PM
Bell was ringing on every win that  part of the manual was correct...... I now got it to add up wins in credit meter, can't get it to add surplus coins to it though if you add more than max bet it kicks them back after the reel spin, need to fix that and enable the dba and I'm good to go... that's where I am to this point
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 07:24:34 PM
Ok press test button 2x then use jackpot key to get through group zero
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 07:33:24 PM
2x starts with 6 and 3 blinking then gives me 00 through 09 on win paid display and repeats
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Ok chip I have is 1311, a bit newer. 1x maybe?
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 07:46:20 PM
Ok chip I have is 1311, a bit newer. 1x maybe?
What table or setting changes it to allow credit intake beyond max bet ? If the dba ends up being bad I can at least load it up with credits


I have the manual here for the 1137...... if someone has a chip ??
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Crash0 on October 07, 2017, 07:46:54 PM
I'm sure you will need a set086 chip to make any changes you are gonna need to tolkenize or activate bill acceptor
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 07, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
1x isn't it either
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 08, 2017, 12:54:08 AM
I checked the board this has a sp731 chip in it
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Shaggy on October 08, 2017, 06:21:45 AM
Mike your inbox is full. Please delete some (you can only have 10) so you can receive messages.

Dave
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Shaggy on October 08, 2017, 06:49:57 AM
I'm sure you will need a set086 chip to make any changes you are gonna need to tolkenize or activate bill acceptor

Crash0 is right. I have a machine with the SP 1137 in it. You have to use the Set86 to tokenize etc. If you just want to enable the B/V with the chip you have in it now, a Set 15 will work. That being said...The 1137 also has a repeat bet feature. The spin reels is always on (as long as there are credits on the machine) and the arm is always energized with credits on. If you've played 3 credits and want to again, you can push the Spin Reels, Play Max Credits or pull the arm without adding credits and it will play. It's a fun chip to use.

Dave
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 08, 2017, 02:01:34 PM
I made some room for pms....this is running sp731..... with the batt being bad that's gotta be it ...just the set chip to turn dba on n I should be good . I was able to get the set 015. Just to clarify ... swap game Rom with set rom n power up,make changes,power down, reinstall game rom n clear errors .. correct ??
Thx
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Shaggy on October 08, 2017, 04:15:58 PM
Here's a link to using a Set chip. I'll send you a PM.

Dave

http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/dbv.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/dbv.htm)
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 08, 2017, 07:27:11 PM
Here's a link to using a Set chip. I'll send you a PM.

Dave

[url]http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/dbv.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/dbv.htm[/url])



Thank you
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: Nepa Coin Op on October 08, 2017, 08:54:25 PM
BA is now working ...... last issue it has is that it transports the bill soooo slow validation is horrible .... is there a power section of these that need caps or something like that ... very sluggish on intake VERY
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: off-track on October 08, 2017, 09:03:32 PM
What table or setting changes it to allow credit intake beyond max bet ? If the dba ends up being bad I can at least load it up with credits

I was under the impression that isn't possible with coins?  Anything beyond max bet will drop straight through to the tray.
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: knagl on October 08, 2017, 09:22:10 PM
I was under the impression that isn't possible with coins?  Anything beyond max bet will drop straight through to the tray.

That's correct for most SP chips.  However, a select few allow for "Montana Credits" (also referred to by IGT as "euro or semi-euro credits"), which allow additional coins to go to the credit meter instead of being rejected to the tray.
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: rokgpsman on October 09, 2017, 05:46:25 AM
BA is now working ...... last issue it has is that it transports the bill soooo slow validation is horrible .... is there a power section of these that need caps or something like that ... very sluggish on intake VERY

The bill transport may have a problem with worn/glazed belts or rubber wheels and they are slipping. You could try cleaning but may want to look for a replacement transport.
Title: Re: credit and pay settings
Post by: rokgpsman on October 09, 2017, 05:55:16 AM
What table or setting changes it to allow credit intake beyond max bet ? If the dba ends up being bad I can at least load it up with credits

I was under the impression that isn't possible with coins?  Anything beyond max bet will drop straight through to the tray.

Here is the document for SP731. The extra inserted coins going to credits after max play coin limit is reached is mentioned on page 5, "Extra Coins in Option", menu step 0,10.

This seems like it would be a desirable feature for all SP chips, unfortunate that they don't all have this option. You could always disable it if you didn't want it. I wonder if most gaming jurisdictions prohibited it for some reason. On knagl said, only a few SP chips allow this to happen.
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