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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games => Topic started by: alezona on October 13, 2017, 05:16:29 PM
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Hello All,
New to this forum and have an issue with my IGT Slant top video poker machine. All works great except the DBV-200 bill acceptor that cycles through the usual stuff but never becomes active. I switched it out with another one I have on a second machine that works. Switching them shows me it is not the acceptor and must be some kind of setting or switch on the machine itself since it will work in the other machine but the one that was working goes and does the same cycling.
I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled. What am I missing?
Machine was manufactured in 9/93 and says the model is a GD75D
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
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just some ideas to check,,,
Did the bill validator work at one time and this problem just recently happened? Or has the bill validator never worked? If it worked ok at one time then try to think of any changes or other work you did that could be causing the problem.
Sometimes there is a security switch that is not closed somewhere around the cash storage box (cash can). It may be at the rear of where the cash can inserts, make sure the cash box is fully inserted. On some machines the cash box uses an optic circuit for the security sensing, there will be an optic part on each side of the cash box and this senses if the cash box is removed or installed. It is similar to the machine's main door optics that sense if the main door is closed or open.
-EDIT- for some reason I was thinking this is an S+ machine, but it is a PE+, so some of what I wrote below does not apply.
Also, you may have a setting in your Test/Options menus that is wrong. For example, if your credit limit is set too low then the bill validator won't accept a bill because that would cause the machine to go over the credit limit. You should review all of your TEST/Setup menu settings to make sure none of them are causing the problem. Let us know what your SP chip number is and we can give more detailed advice.
You can find out what your SP chip and SS chip numbers are by pressing the white TEST button located inside the machine. Keep pressing it until you see the number "4" in the Coins Played display. Then look at the Winner Paid display, your machine will display a couple of 4 digit numbers, write them down and tell us what they are.
Here is a more detailed writeup about how to determine your machines SP and SS chip numbers:
http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm (http://www.newlifegames.net/spset/SPSS.htm)
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This being a video poker unit, there is no separate screen for the credits. I do not see the chip numbers anywhere with in the test screens I go through.
I have tried to swap out cash cans and the validator does the usual when you take it out and put it back in, it just doesn't light up showing it is ready to take money.
Max credits are at 3500
I have a image of the circuit board that I have attached. It had been working up until a battery was replace by a local guy. being that this unit is not played very often it wasn't until later that we noticed an issue with the validator. Repair guy was not much help.
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I am not really familiar with the video poker machines, but they are similar to the S+ machines. Do you just need a set chip to enable the validator after the battery change? A set 15 works for the S+ machines but I am not sure for the video machines.
Dave
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This being a video poker unit, there is no separate screen for the credits. I do not see the chip numbers anywhere with in the test screens I go through.
I have tried to swap out cash cans and the validator does the usual when you take it out and put it back in, it just doesn't light up showing it is ready to take money.
Max credits are at 3500
I have a image of the circuit board that I have attached. It had been working up until a battery was replace by a local guy. being that this unit is not played very often it wasn't until later that we noticed an issue with the validator. Repair guy was not much help.
.....I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled. What am I missing?
If you've gone thru the Setup screens and it says the bill validator is enabled then I'm not sure using the SET chip will help. Maybe something else is going on if the DBV isn't working. Does it pull in a bill but then reject it, or does it not even pull the bill in? You should only be using a $1 bill for testing purposes at this point, don't confuse the issue by using any other bill.
Since the bill validator was working before the battery was changed (you're sure about that?) some setting in the TEST/Setup menus was probably lost or got changed when the old battery died, was removed and another battery installed. Each time your press the white TEST button inside the machine it should step thru the various setup screens, you can double-check all of them that have something to do with a limit, like credit limit, etc, or any settings that pertain to the bill validator.
Make sure that the "Credit / Non-Credit" option setting is set to "Credit". And the setting "Maximum Coins In" should be set to a higher number, such as 20.
Can you post a few photos of the screens you get when you step thru the Setup menus? (not the financial bookkeeping screens, just the Setup/Options settings screens). Maybe we can see something this is wrong. Thanks!
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If the bill acceptor is not lit up its not enabled.
You need a set chip to enable it.
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Set chip 004 will work in your machine.
Jim
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The validator will not pull any bill in. The validator did work prior to the board being replaced but we are unsure if it stopped right after or not.
Here are some of the screens from the test mode.
One photo (image 1471) shows the bills to credit disabled. I have since this was taken, gone in and changed it to enabled but the validator still is not working.
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Enabling the on-screen settings will not enable the bill validator.
You need to use a set chip.
The purpose of. Set chip is to tell the validator how many credits to present for each dollar input.
Setting the on screen setting to 0.25 is simply a display setting. The set chip, programs a pulse setting in the hardware.
From a coin in perspective the sample coin determines what coin triggers a credit. There is no linkage between what is displayed and what is actual. Ie put 0.01 on the screen and a quarter in the comparitor it still gives 1 credit for 1 coin.....not 25 credits for a quarter.
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Ok, where do I get and how do I do this set chip?
Thank you for the help.
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Most of the vendors on the home screen can sell you a set chip. While your buying I would also pickup a clear chip. Shipping will probably cost you more than the chips.
To use the set chip you pull the Mpu board out. Replace the program chip with the set chip. Plug the board back in. Follow the on screen instructions to set the denomination. Pull the board out swap chips back to the regular program chip and you should be in business.
The clear chip wipes your machine back to factory defaults. Used in the same manner as the set chip.
Rarely used but it's good to have one around.
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Here is a post with screen shots
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=334.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=334.0)
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Thank you very much for your help!
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The only way for the bill acceptor to show as "enabled" on that screen is with the use of a SET chip, so someone previously did use a SET chip. Is the denomination set on your game?
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Well I got the chip and did what I was told now I get a call attendant message with cmos data message.
What can I do now?
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Hold the white test button until you hear a DING.
Also on bill validator try turning DIP switch on the head on, all rest off.
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After the ding .. I think you have to close the door and turn the attendant key.
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Yep, got the ding and nothing else really happened so I closed it up and tried for laughs the jackpot key. Games back!!
Turned off and back on. No validator.
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Did you turn on DIP switch on the validator?
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Did you turn on DIP switch on the validator?
Check that, what Badbaud said.
BUT... I'd go back to the link that Jay send and do everything again in the EXACT order. It's easy to miss one small step.
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I have a DBV-200. Where would I find the switch, I do not see it.
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Ok, Found the switches. they are all off in the first set of 10 except for #10 and the second set of switches (6 total) are also off.
Based on the chip installed and info on the validator, these switches are set correctly.
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Below are a few pages from the JCM manual on the DBV-200 that may be helpful. The square black unit where the bills are inserted is commonly called the "head". On the bottom of the DBV head you will find the memory chip that holds the software for the DBV-200, it can be seen thru a hole cut into the bottom part of the DBV housing. It will either be an eprom in a socket, or a flash rom that is soldered to the circuit board. Often there is a sticker on top of this memory chip that tells you the software version and the id number of the communication method that software uses. There is sometimes an older sticker on the top of the DBV-200 head but you can't always trust that sticker, these heads get updated over the years, even taken from one machine and reinstalled into another after changing the software to what is needed. So if there is a sticker on the memory chip on the underside of the DBV-200 that is more likely to be correct. If your DBV-200 has never worked in this machine you will want to ensure that it does contain the -022/-023 IGT compatible software that your machine needs. If this DBV-200 works ok in another IGT PE+ or S+ machine then you know it has the correct -022/-023 software but DBV dipswitch #10 may be set to the wrong position.
Different slot machine manufacturers use different comm methods and they are not compatible with each other. For IGT PE, PE+, S and S+ machines the id number is -022 or -023 and this is what your DBV-200 should have to work. The -022 and -023 software are both contained in the same chip on your DBV-200, dipswitch #10 is used to select if you want to use -022 or -023.
As mentioned by badbaud, you should try changing dipswitch 10 to the opposite position to see if that works.
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(https://s1.postimg.org/9opb03feb3/DBV200_dipswitch.jpg)
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(https://s1.postimg.org/73fwj4lsin/DBV200_id_protocol.jpg)
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(https://s1.postimg.org/8mqlxwyr7z/DBV200_testing.jpg)
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Hold the white test button until you hear a DING.
Also on bill validator try turning DIP switch on the head on, all rest off.
Which dipswitch did you mean that should be set ON? (switch 10 ??)
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my memory is always foggy on this subject! Jim at Blueridge slots always corrects me on this. I think? on a PE+ poker machine, switch #1 is the I/F switch. Jim has corrected me on this on the old site and the new site as well.
disregard the above!!! I was thinking of a WBA unit.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=10932.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=10932.0)
Jim
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Hello All,
New to this forum and have an issue with my IGT Slant top video poker machine. All works great except the DBV-200 bill acceptor that cycles through the usual stuff but never becomes active. I switched it out with another one I have on a second machine that works. Switching them shows me it is not the acceptor and must be some kind of setting or switch on the machine itself since it will work in the other machine but the one that was working goes and does the same cycling.
I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled. What am I missing?
Machine was manufactured in 9/93 and says the model is a GD75D
Thank you in advance for any help you can give.
What is the other type of machine that you swapped the DBV-200 from? It might be an IGT machine that uses DBV ID -023 and your PE+ slant top uses ID -022 (or vice versa). Try changing the DBV-200 dipswitch #10 to the opposite position.
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Did you get the onscreen setting and set the denomination ? if not, you need to do that.
Receiving a CMOS error is not going to enable the validator. Did you use the right chip slot ?
Until you get the Besel lights on - it is not active.
I would save playing with the dips until you have a light on. You can flip the switch to change the dbv from sigma to igt but if the validator didn't have IGT software on it to begin with, changing this dip doesn't change it to IGT. The dip changes the pulse modulation that is sent to the machine. Per some of the earlier comments - look at the sticker and validate it is a IGT 022/023. If it is some other software IE Bally. Save the effort it is not going to work at all (ever).
Assuming the light is on - I would work with a $1.00 bill.
Depending on the version/age of validator software other bills may not be accepted.
Regardless if it is 022/023 the $1 will work others won't.
22/23 it will always
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The validator unit was swapped with a Double Diamond machine and both validators work with the DD machine as soon as it is plugged in.
the Set denomination chip was plugged into the program slot and displayed the screen expected. The chip in the head unit has not been changed so based on what I read, changing the switches should not be needed since they are based on the chip in the head if I have it right.
I have tried a second time with the set chip and gone through the steps and the validator is not lighting up nor taking bills.
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Double diamond S+ machine or a Double Diamond S2000 machine.
The S2000 has speakers where the player tracking bar sits ?
The S2000 head will not work with a S+ or PE+ platform.
Does the head go through its regurgitations (start/stop/grind noise) when plugged into the PE+ and turned on ?
If not perhaps the dbv is not getting power and you need to check the system fuses and cable connections.
When you pull out the MPU board is the transformer plugged onto the PE+ board.
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Well the heads on both validators are the same model.
That being said. When I went in and double checked the validators I swapped the cash cans and made sure everything was seated right.
Plugged it in and I'll be damned, the lights are all on!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thank_you:
Now all I have to do is get these both sold before they decide to act up again.
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Well the heads on both validators are the same model.
The heads can be the same model but still configured differently, for different machines.
.....Now all I have to do is get these both sold before they decide to act up again.....
Ha! If it acts up after you sell it you will be hearing from the new owner. Might be good to know or at least have an idea on what the problem was. Maybe reseating the cash can is what fixed it, sometimes the cash storage security switch or optics can be difficult to activate. That's why a lot of owners remove the wires from the security switch and twist them together, on machines that use that method of security circuit.
Glad that you got it working.
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I am thinking it was a combination of enabling the head with the new board and the way it was seated.
The seating seems to be causing an issue with both machines taking a dollar trying to process it and either eating it or spitting it back out after munching on it for a few moments.
Which are the security wires? (just out of curiosity)
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On some machines there is a switch that gets pressed by the cash can when it is inserted or when the cash access door is closed. The switch can be located at the rear of the cash box or elsewhere nearby in the mounting frame. The switch has 2 wires. You can remove the 2 wires and twist them together so that the machine thinks the cash box is always installed and secure, keeps it from giving nuisance errors. Not all machines use this cash box security switch method, some use an optic sensor and other method. You'd need to look carefully at your machine to see how it is done. All slot machines have some type of security sensing on the cash storage area, that's a requirement by the casino. They want to know if the cash box is being dinked with.