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WMS BB1 start issue
« on: December 19, 2022, 12:34:09 AM »
I have a problem with my WMS BB1, it does not start after a transport. I have checked the plugs from the power supply (if they are plugged in correctly) and also the other plug contacts. Can anyone tell me what could be the problem here and where I can look for the error? Currently only briefly turns the fan and then everything stops like this (see video).

https://youtu.be/ykG7autOB9c
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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2022, 02:23:25 AM »
pull the mpu out and see if the cabinet powers up.  If it doesn't power up, you probably have some screw loose shorting something somewhere.  If it powers up, then reseat the mpu back and see if it comes up.  If it doesn't, check the mpu to make sure nothing came loose inside.
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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2022, 09:24:12 AM »
pull the mpu out and see if the cabinet powers up.  If it doesn't power up, you probably have some screw loose shorting something somewhere.  If it powers up, then reseat the mpu back and see if it comes up.  If it doesn't, check the mpu to make sure nothing came loose inside.
Thank you very much for your time and help. It doesn't start either with or without mpu. Could the power supply also be the problem, or can I somehow test or measure it if it is not connected? I will remove the backboard to see if there is anything stuck behind it that could cause a contact. There were several loose metal parts and screws lying around.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2022, 09:50:48 AM »
Is the power cord inserted fully into the power supply box?
The cords can come loose sometimes.....especially after transport.

Also, there's two fuses on the power supply box.
Look on the side. You'll see two round black fuse holders.
They come out by turning with a small flat headed screwdriver a 1/4 turn.
Pull out the plug power plug 1st please.
Once out, the fuses can be checked for continuity with a multimeter.

If you want to see if there's certain voltages coming out of your power supply, there's indicator led lights down under the MPU on the backplane board towards the right-hand side of it.
I've attached for you a photo of the green power leds from my test machine...>>>
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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 01:08:27 PM »
backplane board should have all led light as shown and mpu needs all red led lights lighted

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2022, 02:53:07 AM »
I added a video showing the leds that light up when you turn it on. I completely removed the power supply unit and unfortunately can't find a fuse, I have attached photos of the power supply unit. If I attach it to the current, I have brown (think that's 3.3V) and red (think that's 5V) against ground 0.2 V on the connections, yellow (think that's 12V) it's 0.02V. Is this a special power supply, I have several ATX power supplies but unfortunately the pinout there looks different and the connector does not fit.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2022, 04:45:51 AM »
looks like you have a bad power supply please not im not a expert but all led light should light up on back plane board on start up and game operation i believe the power supply im showing is a newer version of yours but please get a second opinion

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2022, 02:42:23 AM »
I think I'll try a new power supply, it has not someone a compatible in stock at a fair price?

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2022, 05:54:32 AM »
https://www.casinotech.com/-ARAS-Power-Technologies-Power-Supply-EVP-3005-00
I am a private person and as I see I can only order there as a company. Respectively, a checkout (even as a guest) is only possible with the indication of the company name.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2022, 06:46:08 AM »
If it ain't broke don't mess with it.....

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2022, 07:54:41 AM »
The power supply has been ordered thanks to all for the help. I will post here after receipt and installation if that was the error and it runs again.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2023, 02:30:01 AM »
Try Patriot Gaming

https://patriotgaming.com/071-bluebird-p-s-tf.html
Unfortunately, the power supply has not yet arrived (ordered on 27 December) and I do not receive an answer when I ask for it. Will probably have to cancel the credit card payment. Can not recommend the seller currently.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2023, 06:50:54 AM »
same problem different web site has hold on card since december 20 no answer on website number really shitty service if there not in operation anymore they should shut website down

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2023, 04:50:34 AM »
Here's an update, I've now received the power supply and installed it, the good news is that all the LEDs except for the 24V light up again (see also attached pictures). Unfortunately, there is no picture on the screen and nothing seems to be running except the fan. Will now replace the extended power supply unit which supplies the 24V. I have already ordered this and hope to receive it soon.

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Re: WMS BB1 start issue
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2023, 08:14:51 AM »
Replaced the 24V Power Supply and the Backplane, because I had an issue with the TiTo and finally all works fine.

Thanks to all.

 

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