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Setting up a chamII+ with an S+ as a stand alone.

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qbert:

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--- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 28, 2006, 10:41:24 PM ---And a wall shot.......All running great thanks to NLG! ......goodnight!     Tim

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qbert:

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--- Quote from: captainhappy on March 29, 2006, 04:12:48 AM ---Tim,
Forgot to ask about the progressive display... Do you have the dollar sign after the amount on purpose??? I accidentally found out how to put it up front of the amount!  :5- :5- :5-
On that note, I finally built my own cable, and found an old win98 laptop (the fourth laptop finally worked) and have done some initial playing with my one working CHAMII+ SA setup. I have been able to get an amount in it and have it incrementing. and I have finally got some text coming up in the jpot.do section. I need to find time to go back to the other posts to figure out how to perfect things. I thought that I read you can put different stuff in each of the jack#.do and they are supposd to cycle thru them??? Right now it says Welcome to Mark's Casino.... Please Feed Me..... Feed Me!! ...... Feed Me More!!! and then it very briefly (I need to figure how to make it stay longer) displays the jackpot amount. All of this is in the one jpot.do file. I have not gone further yet. I was having a hard time getting it to work, and then I figured out it was not me, it was the controller communicating poorly like someone mentioned before. Sometimes it needs to be sent 10-15 times, or I have to turn it off and catch it when it is fresh right after booting. I do not know why this happens?
Now I need to find the Meters/displays that I am missing so that I can work on other machines!  :8- :8- :8- :8-
Adios,
Mark

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The Dollar sign defaults there...how did you move it?  Thanks!   Tim

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 07:30:32 PM ---
--- Quote from: idesign on April 01, 2006, 06:40:24 AM ---You set it up in the PSP software.  Go to Page 3, Symbols and Currency Setup.  Use the F5 key to toggle where you want the $ sybmol to appear.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 07:34:31 PM ---
--- Quote from: wcw1223 on September 20, 2007, 03:10:29 PM ---There is no website that can top NLG!!!!.  :3- :3- :3- :3- :3- Good, helpful, and knowledgeable people like  Rickhunter,Ozzy,Idesign, and the list goes on. I am owe all you more than I can ever repay. I now have a working Progressive Machine thanks to you.  :89- :89- :89- :71-.
Oops I left out having GREAT VENDOR'S like Jim and April that make the parts affordable  :3- :3- :89- :50-


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qbert:

--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:46:19 PM ---
--- Quote from: knagl on November 20, 2007, 09:48:11 AM ---Okay, so I got my hands on (what I believe to be) a ChamII+.  It had been in a S+ slant top game as a stand-alone progressive for that machine.  It has a 12-segment tri-color display.
I'm interested in adding it to my S+ machine.  I currently have one of the little IGT red "Mini Photon" in-glass displays set up.
Am I correct that in order to add the ChamII+ as the primary progressive, and keep the IGT as a secondary progressive, I need to change the relevant option to "Primary Level Link, Secondary Level Stand-Alone"?  Am I also correct that not every game theme supports a secondary progressive (like my Diamond 5's (Five Times Pay clone) 3CM game)?
Finally (for now anyway!), where might I find the software to program this thing, and how exactly does one jump pins 1 and 5 on a serial cable while still being able to plug it in to the serial port?  I'm having a tough time visualizing that...
Thanks!

 


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qbert:

--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:47:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: rickhunter on November 20, 2007, 10:03:17 AM ---Yes, that is a ChamII+ and yes not all games support 2 level progressive.  You can just look at the glass and if there's a decal for the 2nd level prize, then the theme supports 2nd level progressive.
To jump pins 1 and 5 you can:
1. Jump it in the back of the PCB on the chamII+s logic board.
2. Make a small cable you can connect between your standard serial cable and the chamII+ with pins 1 and 5 jumpered (See attached PDF)
3. Buy a serial cable with removable hoods on the ends and jumper pins 1 and 5 inside the connector.
If no one has sent you a friendly e-mail on where to acquire the software, PM me and I'll see what I can do.  :3- :3- :3-

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:50:24 PM ---
--- Quote from: knagl on November 20, 2007, 06:02:48 PM ---
--- Quote from: rickhunter on November 20, 2007, 10:03:17 AM ---2. Make a small cable you can connect between your standard serial cable and the chamII+ with pins 1 and 5 jumpered (See attached PDF)
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I don't see an attached .pdf?  Thanks for your help -- what you posted makes a little more sense -- I was trying to figure out how to jump the pins in the connector itself and still be able to plug it in to the port.
Oh, I also meant to ask if anyone had a customized jpot.do file they'd like to share?  I would love to program in a message, have it display the current jackpot, another message, current jackpot, etc.  I know that I can only have one jpot.do file, but if understand correctly what I want to do can still be accomplished by making one long jpot.do file.  Anyhoo, having a template to work from would be really nice.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:55:42 PM ---
--- Quote from: Jay on November 20, 2007, 10:15:28 PM ---I think you can have 4 files JPOT.DO, JPOT1.DO, JPOT2.DO JPOT3.DO and it cycles through all of them and then repeats. Each file I believe is 256 characters long.
The difference between a CON1, CON2 platform is that you also have a MESS.DO that gives a different message when the machine is idle.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:57:27 PM ---
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--- Quote from: knagl on November 21, 2007, 10:02:15 AM ---
--- Quote from: rickhunter on November 21, 2007, 10:00:11 AM ---In standalone mode, you only have one jpot.do file.  In linked mode, it cycles through all 4.  At least I've never been able to get more than 1 jpot.do file in stand alone mode. :60- :60- :60-
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That's what I gathered from the previous 25 pages, too.   :89-
Thank you very kindly and K+ for the .pdf file, the rick.do file, and all of your help.   :3-

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Yes, it's true that you can only use the jpot.do file, but you can have more than one message in the same file. Just separate each message by several jackpot token pages with the longest possible delays. The number of messages is limited by your tolerance of how frequently they come up and the maximum number of pages (31, I believe).  Obviously, the more messages you have the fewer jackpot token pages you can have between the messages and the more frequently they pop up and interrupt your progressive amount.  I found that there is no restriction on how LONG the file and messages are (or if there is I never reached it), but there is that limit on the number of page breaks. If you exceed it you will see a specific set of garbage characters in place of your message.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 06:59:29 PM ---
--- Quote from: knagl on January 11, 2008, 12:13:36 PM ---Well, now that I have my communication problem resolved, I figured this would be a better thread to ask about programming.
Is there a way to read ("load") the current jpot.do file that's in my ChamII+?  I'd like to see what its current setting is before I go messing around with it.
FWIW, right now it just shows the meter total, with the color changing from green to yellow to red over and over.  The numbers stay in place (do not move at all), and the color change "wipes" down from the top.  What effect is that called?  I suppose if I could find that out, I wouldn't even have to read the info that's in there.
Anyway, I didn't see the "LOAD" option on the screen when programming the jpot.do file.  Is it an option and it's just not displayed, or is it not possible to read the current file, or what?    :5-
Also, am I correct that I don't need to worry about any of the other files as they'll never display?
While we're at it, are the Odometer Control settings something that can be used with the ChamII+ standing alone?  I read the settings from the ChamII+, and they were all zero.  I used the defaults and sent them to the ChamII+, but when I read them back to verify, it was all zeros again.
Thanks again to everyone for your help.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 07:00:25 PM ---
--- Quote from: rickhunter on January 11, 2008, 01:59:54 PM ---There's no load jackpot.do.  You just have to rename the file jpot0.do (or whatever the first jackpot.do file is named) and load the psp program using the path where the file is.  If you want the chamII+ to use the jackpot.do file you upload, then you need to set the MFILE=0 in the display configuration options using the switches on the chamII+.  You flip the switch and hit one of the two buttons that will move into the display group, then you hit the other button to go through the options until you get to Mfile.  Mfile=0 uses your defined jpot.do file.  The other ones use a fixed pattern.  Do you have the chamII+ manual? it describes what all the mfile numbers do.

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 07:01:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: StatFreak on January 11, 2008, 03:18:43 PM ---Kevin, I'm sure you've done your reading of theses threads, but don't forget the little pesky bug that many of us have experienced. For many of us, the ChamII+ will only accept a new jpot.do file right after bootup. The rest of the time it will say that the file uploaded, but it doesn't work.
For complex messages it takes many uploads and testing to get the timing and look just right. What I do when I'm working on a file and testing is to make a simple obvious change in the FIRST paragraph of the file EVERY time I upload. That way I can be sure that the newest version "took" without waiting for the place that I'm working on in the file to display, which could be a couple of minutes into the program. (It sucks to wait all that time only to find that your change didn't upload) Then when I'm finished I reset the change to my desired setting on the last upload.

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qbert:

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--- Quote from: rickhunter on January 11, 2008, 03:32:38 PM ---good tip.  I'm going to start use v1, v2, etc as the first two letters in the message until the thing is just the way I want it.  :3- :3- :3-

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 07:03:02 PM ---
--- Quote from: StatFreak on January 11, 2008, 11:58:53 PM ---The reason I started doing this was that I had three messages in the one file separated by jackpot tokens. You can't cut and paste so I couldn't get rid of the tokens (although I could manually change their time to the shortest setting to get through them faster). By the time I was working on the third message at the end of the file the waiting around was getting old.
btw, that's also how I discovered the maximum of 31 (30, 31, or 32 -- I forget which :25-) paragraphs. I wanted to add a 4th message. I found that the total length of the file -- i.e. shorter messages -- made no difference, It was only the number of paragraph commands. Once exceeded, I got a specific non-random set of "random" junk displayed. I'm pretty sure that the last paragraph sent the pointer oob, and it was displaying whatever code was at the address that the pointer was pointing to. That's when I wished the other .do files worked!! :8- :8-

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--- Quote from: CommTech on September 17, 2008, 07:04:55 PM ---
--- Quote from: brichter on January 12, 2008, 06:36:26 PM ---
--- Quote from: knagl on January 12, 2008, 06:15:04 PM ---I feel like this is one of the stupider questions I've asked on here (I know there are no stupid questions), but when looking at the motherboard in my S+ upright, I know I need to connect connector from the ChamII+ to the board, but which three of the four pins on that motherboard connector are used?  The three closest to the pull arm/bill validator side of the machine, or the three closest to the "change" button side of the machine?
I got my programming done -- I'm itching to hook it up to the slot machine now and see it in action.   :71-
Thanks.

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Hang on, let me take a picture.

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--- Quote from: Foster on November 12, 2008, 09:49:00 AM ---I had to re-read this topic  to double check setting up the Cham II+ with S+, since I bought another Cham II+ from April.
She is always great.
I noticed the first post stated M-08, M08.  I tried that setting the Cham II+ (or Cham II SA) did not respond to any coin in.
I tried M-05 and M08 for the S+ it is working perfectly.
That is the setting for S2000 as well

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