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Bill Validators, Currency Acceptors and Printers => JCM DBV-45, DBV-145, and DBV-200 Bill Validators => Topic started by: leocat168 on December 30, 2020, 11:19:29 AM
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Hello again, thank you for helping getting my last machine up and running. Here I go again. I have recently acquired an IGT splus triple triple diamond that had a dead battery. changed the battery and everything worked as it should for coins without having to do a clear. But The DBV would cycle when turned on but the bezel would not light up and it wouldn't react to a bill trying to be fed in. Occasionally it would not cycle properly and would just click and I could see what would look like the gears trying to spin every second or so over and over. It seems if the machine was left on to do that sometimes for a solid five minutes it would then cycle and start up normally. once left on it seems to just start up normally every time it is shut down. I did a set with chip 15 to enable the DBV and set the denomination. Now the DBV bezel will light up and it will take a 1 dollar bill in, the bill stays in for a few seconds and the DBV will slowly edge the bill back out before completely rejecting it. So this maybe 2 problems? one, why is it just clicking at start up some times? Two, why , once it cycles properly is it taking in the bill for a few seconds before it spits it out?
Thanks for any help you can give me
i have also cleaned the heads sensors and set the hopper and credit limit to 1000. the game chip is a 932
I'm going to try to post some pictures and a video
Al
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Here are some pics
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http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=43.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?board=43.0)
In the link above is just about every problem and answer for your DBV 200. :cool_thumb_up:
You will learn a lot!... :propeller:
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thank you ! I'll check it out
Al
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I've read pretty much all the DBV 200 posts. Lotta good info and think I've tried just about everything the best I can still no luck. Everything lined up, cleaned , connections good and settings are correct. I'm still trying to post some videos but the file seems to large
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find out if the unit will take a bill : flip it over and turn switch #6 opposite of where it is, ( small bank of 6 dip switches) now turn on the power, flip it back to where it was, unit will cycle briefly, now you can insert bills into the unit , if it is working it will take them in and pass them out the back ( do not have it hooked up to the transport.
this will establish if the unit is working, if it is, then perhaps you have an old SP version that might be IDO22?
Jim
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Thanks Jim. I'll try that today
Al
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Okay finally got a chance to try what you suggested Jim.. it took ones through with no issues. How do I check the version?
Thanks Al
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Using that test you can determine what bills the unit will accept, from the picture , it looks like an older version, the current version is 2.6 or 2.7??
it will accept everything EXCEPT the new 5 and 100.
SP932 could be 022 protocol?? flip switch # 10 to the opposite and see what happens when you try it in the machine. switch 10 selects between the two protocol, 023 and 022. You could change to a 731 which you are familiar with! RB can hook you up with the chips you need.
the problem with the clicking on cold start up is your power supply is starting to go south, the caps need replacing, as it warms up then it will function as advertised.
Jim
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Thanks Jim, I think your absolutely right about the power supply, left it on for awhile again and the DBV cycled on normally. I've never replaced caps so I think I'll see if I can get a replacement.
Unfortunately I only had ones and 20s to test. It didn't take the 20s. I tried flipping switch 10 and had the same results, so I switched it back.
Is my only option to change the game chip from a 932 to 731?
Thanks for your help
Al
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Here are some videos
https://youtu.be/XuCWo-D25Go (https://youtu.be/XuCWo-D25Go)
https://youtu.be/woRDEFkT5js (https://youtu.be/woRDEFkT5js)
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Hello again
So i received and installed the replacement power supply and that seems to have solved the problem of the unit not wanting to cycle completely on start up. As you may remember this was a new machine to me with a dead battery. i changed the battery and all worked well except the DBV. So I originally just used the set chip to enable the bill validator but wouldn't take bills. I just did a Clear and then the set again. Tested the head(I think its called) and all bills went through. I disassembled and completely cleaned all optics again and put some belt dressing on the dry belts. Not sure which solved the problem but now it pretty consistently will take 1 dollar bills. It seems to be doing something weird though. When the door is open the motor on the transport will on and off spin briefly, over and over again. Once I close the door it will still do it but less frequently. The Bezel light does light and it will accept the bills. Also once in a while after a spin of the reels the bezel light will pause for a second and I can hear the gears spin briefly for a second before the bezel light will come back on and its ready for a dollar bill. Any ideas? I feel I'm getting close. Is it just done for and better to get a replacement?
thanks
Al
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I had that problem, I removed the DUART chip and everything started working.The DUART chip is not needed for the game to work.
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Hello All,
Sorry to resurrect this post, but I am running into the same issue. I have a DBV-200-SS ID 022/023 USA for an IGT PE+. I have already used the clear chips and the BV is enabled, but all of my bills (old and new) are taken in, and spit back out. Do the dip switches have to be configured in a certain manner?
Thanks,
~ Justin
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you should start your own thread,
yes, the switches do have to be set in a certain manner, especially for a PE+.
Jim
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10 position DIP switch, switch #10 is on for PE+ upright, off for multi board, and off for S+ slot.
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Dipswitch is and was set to 10. The bill acceptor is lit up and cycles, but no bill is ever accepted.
Justin
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You have a slot, ALL switches should be off.
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In my case, it’s a video poker machine. The only setting where the bills actually are taken, but then rejected, is with pin 10 turned on. The light below the BV is also on with that setting. I have no background as to where these machines were previously- could someone have adjusted the settings so that only custom bills are accepted?
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Hello, I'm new to owning slots and new to this forum. I am good with tinkering with stuff and can almost fix what ever i get into. So now I got into slot machines. I got my first IGT S+ Red White and Blue machine. When I looked into it the Bill acceptor will take in bills, hold it for a while then spit it out. I believed it worked before i received it because I found 2 $20s and 5 $1 bills. So I am looking to get help on this. If anyone can help I greatly appreciate it.
It has an V2.5 head.
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Troubleshooted the BV and nothing seems to work. Looking for a replacement. DBV-200-SS. ID 022/023. v 2.60 (or later). Let me know if anyone knows where I can find!
Thanks,
Justin
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Ok, I have an update, but still am looking for suggestions here.
My first BV was taking the bills in and immediately spitting them out. So, I replaced the entire Bill Validator. When testing the new bill validator independently (DBV-200), it works. Bills are accepted, but only in the test mode (when moving dipswitch 6 to on, and then turning it off). When I return to the regular mode and power on the machine, bills are not accepted by the machine. When in the BV test mode, and in the Self-Test machine mode, the bill validator will change to a 1 setting and then back to a 0 when a bill is put into the BV. However, when I turn on the machine, the BV and the transporter cycle, but nothing seems to work. All of the self-test diagnostics show that the BV is enabled, and I have already enabled via the clear chips.
Could the transporter be faulty? Running out of options in regards to why the BV works in a test mode, and shows as enabled, but doesn't work in operation.
Thanks!
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Sounds to me like the validator isn't enabled. You need to use a SET chip to enable it, not a clear.
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My apologies, yes I already enabled the BV using the set chips. Would I need to use the set chips again with the new bill validator though?
When using the set chips, it said the BV was enabled. I’m not getting any disabled listings in any self tests. Everything is listed as enabled.
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Is the head using the right protocol ?
Bally, IGT, etc use different software - does this have the right software for the S+ ?
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When I had to enable my BV using the SET chip that I had, the machine said it was enabled but it still didnt work. Turned out to be I was using the incorrect SET chip for my game type.
Maybe its thats easy....
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Great thought! I used the SET 038 chips for my IGT PE+. Is that the correct set chip?
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Actually I went back to square one with the set chip and all of the normal procedures…. Still same issue. BV works in test mode, but not in actual game mode. BV turns on along with transporter but nothing can be done.
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For the S+ machine Im pretty sure the most common SET chip is the SET015 chip. It depends on which game chip you are using. With mine I was using a SET015 and machine said it was enabled but still would not work. The nice peep on here told me I needed to use a SET019 chip for my type of game.
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The set is specified in the PSR
What is your reel chip.
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Oops Justin, Poker Slant PE not S+ reel machine.
Working with a video poker machine here.
:wave: :yes: :duh:
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Going back to the basics.
Is the Bill Bezil lit ?
What software is on the Bill Head.... its normally a sticker on the chip.
Are the dip switches all set the same way as the previous one.
There is a dip selection for protocol.
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Great idea! Actually the bill bezel is NOT lit. When I change any of the dip switches , it will blink. The only way it doesn’t blink is if that switch is set to ten.
Software on the bill head is dbv 200 022/023. V2.60-04-03
My old one was a DBV-200-SS but all else was the same. Not sure if that means anything
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A PE SET 38 is the correct one to use with your PEII video poker, but it is not the correct one to use with a S+ reel slot.
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The bill Bezel will light when its ready to accept bills.
If you go through the PE+ screens via the test switch there may be a place that enables the bill validator there, in addition to the set chip.
Is the head set for 22 or 23 ? It should be 22.
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The bill Bezel will light when its ready to accept bills.
If you go through the PE+ screens via the test switch there may be a place that enables the bill validator there, in addition to the set chip.
Is the head set for 22 or 23 ? It should be 22.
Did I miss something? I thought he was talking about an S+ spinning reel slot?
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I think someone added onto the chain about a slot issue. I have a IGT PE+. I reinstalled the old BV and I get 13 blinks on the yellow bezel. In some posts, this code looks like a bill length error issue, but not sure how that could be. Can anyone diagnose what that code would refer to on a DBV-200-SS?
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Turned away and now getting two blinks - which would be magnetic pattern error. Any way to correct? This could be the issue....
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I think someone added onto the chain about a slot issue. I have a IGT PE+. I reinstalled the old BV and I get 13 blinks on the yellow bezel. In some posts, this code looks like a bill length error issue, but not sure how that could be. Can anyone diagnose what that code would refer to on a DBV-200-SS?
Ok, thanks for the clarification. Key 38 is the correct one for a PE+ machine.
Here's a quick reference guide for the DBV-200 that may be helpful.
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Awesome! Thanks! I think I’ll wait for a new transporter. Both of my BVs are generally giving the same error codes in the test mode, and will not accept bills in the regular mode.
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OK everyone! I've replaced both my bill validator and the transporter and am still having the same issues with the machine. Both new units work in another machine. The bezel will not light in a normal working mode - unless the BV is set-up incorrectly and then it will flash. However, what I have noticed is that both the BV and the transporter will cycle when I "adjust" some of the wires coming into that area. Could there be a wiring issue causing these things to not work? Also, at the top of the machine behind the glass, there appears to be a black power box. It also says that it has been "repaired" previously. Can someone provide insight if that black box or the wiring could be the culprit? Also, how do I go about removing the top glass? The self-test is picking up the BV, but there doesn't seem to be reliable power going to the transporter and/or the bezel.
Thanks,
~ Justin
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Where are the wires from the "black power box" going to? :scratch-head_2:
Follow each wire and report back.
Photos of the exact wires you're "adjusting" may help too?
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That brings up a very interesting question....
The power supply for the DBV200 has fins on it. The power supply for the DBV145 does not. Visibly they are otherwise pretty much the same. The DBV200 has a higher amprerage rating.
We know from other threads that the DBV145 power supply doesn't have enough power to reliably power a DBV200 but the two are mechanically interchageable.
When we first looked at this problem we were presuming that your DBV200 was working fine then stopped. It could however be that the head got swapped out from a 145 to make the machine more sellable.
You mentioned that you had two machines, and these parts all work in the other machine. Take a look at the two power supplies for the validators and see if there is a difference. If so you might try swapping them to see if the problem moves with the power supply.
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Hello All,
I think have come to the same conclusion that you mentioned that it is has something to do with the power supply. I see no fins, so I am guessing that there is an amperage issue. Its like both of the BVs are operational, but not fully working. I fixed the frayed wire, but that didn't resolve the issue, just eliminated some non-responsiveness.
I have ordered a new power supply and it should be here in a few days (I'll be out of town so I might not have an update for a week or two). I'm pretty confident that this is probably the cause and the solution.
Stand by!