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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games => Topic started by: Dizzlec on April 17, 2021, 10:15:43 AM
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Hello the machine is a 96 igt slant top bonus poker video poker game, I was wondering I'f anyonen could walk me through step by step on how to get bill validator to work with new Bill's and maybe some help with my coin mech setup I recently acquired a igt while helping an elderly lady move thanks for the help can update pictures or whatever you guys need if anyone could scan I'm in north east ohio area or walk me through scan the model number for my machine is 9640490R :EmoticonHelp4: :thank_you: :EmoticonHelp4:
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Post a photo of your machine with the door open so we can see the validator. Some validators can be updated to accept most of the new currency, but some cannot.
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Sorry after some looking the bill validator is a dbz 145 ss I'm having a heck of a time with it the bill validator lights up all lights makes start up sounds and is enabled in test menu but will not accept a single bill one dollar denomination I checked all wires cleaned it a few times ot loos in decent shape and like I said it checks out to be fine is there anything I can do check it wont pull a bill in at all wont do anything when I try sticking a bill in THANKS FOR ALL AND ANY HELP :nlg-logo:
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Any error messages on the screen?
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No error messages and the unit has power red and green lights on I checked dip switchs I'm only using a one dollar bill I'm lost here and what is board on the very back wall to the right of the power supply it has one red and one green led on it but neither light up does that have anything to do with the dbv :thank_you:
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Can you post a picture of what you are seeing
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Hello the machine is a 96 igt slant top bonus poker video poker game, I was wondering I'f anyonen could walk me through step by step on how to get bill validator to work with new Bill's and maybe some help with my coin mech setup I recently acquired a igt while helping an elderly lady move thanks for the help can update pictures or whatever you guys need if anyone could scan I'm in north east ohio area or walk me through scan the model number for my machine is 9640490R :EmoticonHelp4: :thank_you: :EmoticonHelp4:
Greetings from England, UK
First of all , nice classic machine if its the one i am thinking it is, I am from the UK so i am unsure if the USA changed to polymer notes but i know that the older note validators i used could not be updated, such as the earlier model of NV10, which they then released the later NV10 USB, coin mechs had been a little easier.
All this could be totally irrelevant due to my experiences being with more modern machines/tech which it it is the case then still get to say nice machine and create my first post here :hail:
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Thanks for the info bish and of the board and I cant I tried the website says my file is too large the board on the back wall right to the top and little to the right of my power supply sorry I have to figure out how to get my pictures to 1000kb
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UPDATE I dont know if this helps the head on the dbv has a sticker says IDO 23 V3.11-11 what does that equate to beyond me
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Also what is the orange wire with white stripe coming off of bottom of coin hopper that was left there bare and there's a bare red wire with orange stripe coming out of headstock along with the red and orange stripe wire from headstock is a green wires and another red wire they go to the switch to the left of the bill door
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I cant I tried the website says my file is too large .... sorry I have to figure out how to get my pictures to 1000kb
You can use any photo editing software to reduce the dimensions of your image which will reduce the file size.
Alternately you can upload them to https://postimages.org/ and copy the "Hotlink for forums" code generated for each image and paste it into a reply here.
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Thank you and here is the board in question
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1jDFdpR/20210418-093638.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dkDJm7qD)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rpckkbkb/20210418-153958.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4Pj70DL)
dbv all light up goes through sounds when powering up I'm lost
(https://i.postimg.cc/PJGGSF22/20210418-154531.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FdxnRGtL)
wire in question from bottom of coin hopper
(https://i.postimg.cc/C54vbvtZ/20210418-154007.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V0dB8Fz1)
game picture
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Is there a switch / test switch anywhere inside the cabinet ? , might be hidden pretty well somewhere ,
Also any loose connectors , look inside them and see if any signs of ever being pushed into another, any little scratches , its not uncommon for their to be extra free connectors and usually they're present in case of future upgrades or extra's available at the time
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i checked all the wires there solid the only thing is there a red and orange wire that was round and zip tied up by itsself i tried it all over and connected it to the hopper wire the orange wire at bottom of hopper and nothing and there is a test switch the normal white on above the main board im lost on bill validator being all lit and not even trying to grab a bill at all ill cleaned it and checked wiring wont do anything but light up
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I may be wrong on how one of this age would work , but i assume it has a sensor that detects the note being inserted which would cause any rollers to spin, if correct then it could be that needing a good clean.
When the machine is powered on does the note mech make any noise ?
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yes as soon as its powered on makes noises for about 4seconds sounds like rollers moving im going to see if i can upload a video of it now thank you bish for your help
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im sorry i tried uploadinga video i nedd another way postimage worked but only for pics i need a way to post video up
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The board in question is for a player tracking interface that was used when the machine was part of the casino's network. They are worthless for home use, you can remove it, or leave it there, it's not doing anything anyway. The orange wire is usually attached to a screw that pokes inside the coin bowl on the hopper. It is used to let the system know if the hopper is full. There should be a screw that has the head outside the bowl and the rest is inside the coin bowl. That orange wire is supposed to be attached to that screw. When the coin level gets high enough so it touches the screw, it indicates a hopper full condition. If the connector is loose and it shorts with the cabinet, your machine will think the hopper is full, and any coin that is supposed to go into the hopper will get directed to the drop door where the casino had a bag that used to collect these coins.
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Post a pic of the monitor with machine on in ready to play mode
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Is the cash can al the way in?
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im sorry i tried uploadinga video i nedd another way postimage worked but only for pics i need a way to post video up
Upload the video to YouTube and post the link here.
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Thank you Rick for that and the cash can is all the way in I've checked it a hundred times
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Attached images to post. -knagl
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The dollar bill is the most accepted. Using an older style bill would be recommended.
The DBV 145 is practically the oldest validators used in these. So older money will be more accepted than the new money.
The sticker you saw was the version of the firmware on the bill validator. As bills evolved they (JCM - the makers of the DBV) had to update the firmware.
There were also updates of the firmware to avoid cheating. One common scam was to take a $5 bill and pencil in certain spots to make the 145 think it was a $50 bill.
When this became prevalent many casinos disabled the dip switch that allowed acceptance of the $50. Most casinos told JQ-Public that $50's were unlucky and this myth continues to this day.
To that point here is an older thread that you can follow on how to check the dip switches on the 145.
JCM DBV-145 what are the dip switch settings? (newlifegames.com) (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=9006.0)
You mentioned all the noise from the validator when the machine powers on. This noise will occur regardless if the validator is enabled or not.
To enable the bill validator you need a SET chip. You remove the game chip, insert the set chip, follow the onscreen instructions and then put the game chip back.
If your buying a SET chip I recommend you buy a Clear chip as well as this takes your machine back to factory defaults.
You can check out RICKs FAQs on the bottom right of the home page, for the S+ instructions on how to use the SET chip.
The PE+ and the S+ (slot) are based on the same architecture and work the same way.
The advantage with the PE+ is you have an onscreen menu vs reading winner paid windows for codes.
It looks like the validator is enabled (lit up) but without a set chip I can't confirm that it is.
Is the bill being pulled in an rejected or not being pulled in at all ?? if its not pulling in at all this leans towards the validator NOT being enabled.
There is also the possibility that the validator has firmware for another country - ie Canada.
Another trick for posting pic's is to take them with your smart phone then email them to yourself - you will get prompted with the option to reduce size. Post the smaller pics.
Fixed font issue. -knagl
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH and the bill validator will not accept a bill at all even try and I went through all the dip switchs read the post still nothing hopefully trying a set chip soon maybe and is it a MUST that I have to run a clear chip after using a set chip or just recommended thanks for all your knowledge and help :thank_you:
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You don’t want to use a clear chip unless you need to.
It’s a rare need - ie the setup screen won’t go back to normal game play.
If you use the clear chip then you will for sure need to use the SET chip.
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Jay,
That's fascinating about the $50 bills. I've frequently heard that "bad luck" thing with casinos, but had no idea of the backstory.
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Welp could not get to other test screens bc the writing was set up wrong on switchs the red change button on top right of machine had extra wire on terminal after unplugging it it worked and some wiring issues with the dbv thanks to all the forms really helped great community thanks to all you guys rock !!!! :thank_you: :thank_you: AND SPECIAL THANKS TO TRISAIL hes the man great help thanks thanks
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So explanation as best as I can say to what fixed the problem with just getting 2 screens on the PE+ slant machine when pressing the white self test button.
The black wire with the blue stripe that is supposed to be used as a jumper if credit switches not used...
The wire in question was connected to the NC tab on the CHANGE Switch. We disconnected that wire and the self test switch button worked as it should. He was able to get to all the test screens. Problem fixed.
My PE+ slant did not have that wire connected to the CHANGE switch or the DEAL/DRAW switch for that matter. We did not check to see where the other end of it was or was not connected on his machine. Don't really care at this point as the machine is working almost 100%. He just needs to get the BV working.
Tony