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Title: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 26, 2015, 04:56:13 PM
Hi guys,

I'm looking to update the fan in my I-game.  This is the (80mm???) cabinet on the left side.  I looked around town today, and while the form factor was right, nobody had 24v fans...only 12v for pcs. 

Anybody have any good suggestions for a good super quiet replacement that is 24 volt?

I attached a pic of mine.

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Denny on September 26, 2015, 05:53:48 PM
Jason,
  I got 2- 12V from Rudy's but I know he has some 24v .  I think they were about 7 bucks.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: johnnybgood1 on September 26, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
The best fans are made by ORION.  www.orion.com (http://www.orion.com).  They make various sizes, voltages and decibel to CFM options.  You can also get them from mouser.  www.mouser.com (http://www.mouser.com)
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: johnnybgood1 on September 26, 2015, 07:18:24 PM
Correction...http://www.orionfans.com/ (http://www.orionfans.com/)



Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: 89chevyman on September 26, 2015, 08:54:02 PM
Check with powell.com. I got replacement fans from them for my Igame. Good prices and they are direct replacements(voltage and sizes).
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 26, 2015, 09:47:12 PM
Check with powell.com. I got replacement fans from them for my Igame. Good prices and they are direct replacements(voltage and sizes).

Did you notice if they were any quieter?  Which 80mm 24v fan did you get?

Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: 89chevyman on September 26, 2015, 11:31:42 PM
The ones that I bought were 115v. The small fan, that is a bi__h to get to, are the ones I replaced. It blows over the cpu. Located near the service light bulb and cash can/BV.

Chris
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: 89chevyman on September 26, 2015, 11:38:16 PM
Also Amazon has several available. 80mm 24V, double ball bearing, should be quieter. The only way to get one that is quieter would be bearing-less types.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 12:53:38 AM
And unfortunately most of the really quiet fans are 12 volt only.  All of the 24v fans are around 30+db which is what the current fan produces in terms of noise.  Oh well.  I think I found a couple of good replacements.

Thanks for the help guys!

Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: keystone9 on September 27, 2015, 01:43:38 PM
Hey guys. Try this site. www.coolerguys.com (http://www.coolerguys.com). Bill.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: lookes on September 27, 2015, 03:05:31 PM
It would take a little wiring but you could use 2 12v fans in series. I put thermal switches in my iGame and S2000's so the fan(s) only come on if it gets over 95F. The iGame ones do come on first tho and they are noisy. Sometimes the S2000's don't come on at all. YMMV.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 03:20:06 PM
It would take a little wiring but you could use 2 12v fans in series. I put thermal switches in my iGame and S2000's so the fan(s) only come on if it gets over 95F. The iGame ones do come on first tho and they are noisy. Sometimes the S2000's don't come on at all. YMMV.

Could you post up some photos, diagrams, or hardware that you use to accomplish this?  Sounds like. Good solution.

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Tilt on September 27, 2015, 04:11:04 PM
Do you have LED tube lighting in addition to your LCD?  If so, just throw it out and forget about it.  I've been running mine with just the small MPU tray fan for years without any problems.  I don't leave it on 24X7, just when I'm using it.  The CRT and fluorescent lighting are the main sources of heat and without them I've found it doesn't need a cabinet fan.  "Your mileage may vary".
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 04:29:09 PM
Do you have LED tube lighting in addition to your LCD?  If so, just throw it out and forget about it.  I've been running mine with just the small MPU tray fan for years without any problems.  I don't leave it on 24X7, just when I'm using it.  The CRT and fluorescent lighting are the main sources of heat and without them I've found it doesn't need a cabinet fan.  "Your mileage may vary".

Cliff,

I'm still running fluorescent lighting in the top and belly.  I've had the fan connected and disconnected over the years.  When disconnected, the LCD case is pretty hot.  With the fan connected and pulling cool air in from the outside, it will cool things off a bit.  I wish the igame had a temp readout like my BB1 to display the temp.  Any idea how much heat LCDs can take?

Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 04:33:08 PM
Do the perforations in the LCD case keep it cool enough?

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: idesign on September 27, 2015, 04:46:36 PM
Have you tried looking up the specs on that model LCD to see the operation temp.  If it was a ceronix it would be 70 C.  Get a oven thermometer and set in it the machine for awhile and see what you get regardless.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Tilt on September 27, 2015, 04:57:33 PM
I have a Kortek 17" LCD, specs on it are 0 - 40c operating (32 - 104F).  WG may be different.  Like Idesign said, put a thermometer in it and check the temps with and without the fan. 
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 05:07:32 PM
Roger that.  I'll see if I can find the manual for it with the operating temps.

Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: 89chevyman on September 27, 2015, 11:00:34 PM
Jason,
  With that power brick attached to the LCD screen, I'd think it would contribute to the heat problem :Scratch-Head: :Scratch-Head:
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: Yoeddy1 on September 27, 2015, 11:14:37 PM
Jason,
  With that power brick attached to the LCD screen, I'd think it would contribute to the heat problem :Scratch-Head: :Scratch-Head:


That's how WG ships them from the factory. 

I flipped the fan around today and had it pull the cool air in from the room instead of venting the warm air inside of the machine out into the room, and that monitor was just luke warm.  The fan is just so loud though.  I just need to find a good quiet fan. 

I found this one on Mouser...super quiet per the specs.  Bit pricey, but I'd spend the money if it does the trick.

http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ebm-papst/8414N-2GL/?qs=in9s7fx0B9UG4zLt2H3F5Q%3d%3d (http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ebm-papst/8414N-2GL/?qs=in9s7fx0B9UG4zLt2H3F5Q%3d%3d)

Thanks,
Jason
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: johnnybgood1 on September 28, 2015, 12:16:11 AM
If you really want to keep a cabinet cool you need 2 fans.  One as a fresh air (filtered) in and another as an out or exhaust fan. Preferrably bringing cool air from the bottom of the cabinet.  The problem with a single fan is that there is not enough positive pressure to drive the air through the cabinet efficiently.  You want to move as much air as possible through the cabinet.  With 2 fans you could prolly get the quietest ones and create a more efficient system.  I actually bought a couple of 20mm fans for a different application and boy do they blow.  They are like jet engines both in sound and in CFM.  Noise and CFM generally go hand and hand.  You usually sacrifice one for the other. Good luck.  Also as the other member mentioned ball bearing vs sealed bearing or sleeved will make a sound difference although CFM will be the biggest culprit. 
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: rickhunter on September 28, 2015, 05:46:12 AM
If you buy fans meant for enterprise servers, they sound like jet engines for sure, but the airflow is considerably different.  If you want quiet, you want bigger, like 120mm or larger, but then you have to modify the vent holes to accommodate the bigger fan.  I usually only keep the machines on for the duration of my gameplay, so I unplug all the cabinet fans while I'm using it if the noise bothers me.  Do not ever unplug whatever fan cools the mph board, or the monitors.
Title: Re: WTB: I-game cooling fan (quiet)
Post by: idesign on September 28, 2015, 07:11:52 AM
Just so you know the quieter the fan the less RPM which translates into less CFM.  So you put a quieter fan in the and you may be compromising the cooling.  If you want to quiet down a fan inside a cabinet you can install sound deadening material inside the box to absorb the noise.  I did this on a 26" Wellsgardner monitor I have.  It really helped cut down the noise considerably.
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