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Author Topic: Bally 809-ZZN Full Restoration.  (Read 38601 times)

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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #340 on: November 11, 2022, 06:26:36 PM »
I need to put together another to do list. Several things need to be worked on, repairs, etc.

Good news, I have more parts arriving soon. I need a bracket, and a meter for the back of the slot machine.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #341 on: November 12, 2022, 07:24:28 AM »
Today I am getting ready for the candle, it's arriving soon and I need to make sure that the wiring is correct.

I have removed the non factory wires, a much cleaner cabinet, and not a rats nest of wires. When I first removed the door wiring the service switch was wired incorrectly. The upper cabinet wiring block has everything, #20, #83-2, wires.

« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 07:39:30 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #342 on: November 12, 2022, 07:28:18 AM »
With the help of Wolftalk, I have a plan to repair the door light sockets. A great write up on the repair is here.
Wolftalk sure helped me out getting the slot machine up and running.  I doubt that this slot machine ever worked  after it left the Mint casino with all of the wiring issues, reel issues, switches burnt, etc.
https://bingo.cdyn.com/techno/commonproblems/lampsocket/
« Last Edit: November 12, 2022, 07:45:13 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #343 on: November 12, 2022, 10:46:03 AM »
I checked out the switch for the candle, it is working, the wiring is perfect.  :applause:
I found another broken wire, I have lost count on how many I had to re solder on this slot machine.
I worked on the door light sockets today, I used a old bulb to solder the wires to the socket. At first I was scratching my head  :Scratch-Head: then I had Wolftalk send me a link which helped me overcome the problem with the socket and now it's 100% connection between the bulb and the wiring.  :applause:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #344 on: November 12, 2022, 02:03:23 PM »
Found another broken micro switch. I disassembled the coin ramp since the coins were getting stuck and found a bunch of something, thankfully I had another part that wasn't gross and rusty.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #345 on: November 13, 2022, 06:35:36 AM »
The candle came in,  :applause: I will install it today.

I am working on the payout circuit. Wolftalk has been helping me isolate problems with the slot machine all along, resolving them. It would be nearly impossible to restore slot machines without someone familiar with them helping out a lot.
As you can see I have another drawing of a wiring diagram, it helps me focus on performing one goal at a time.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #346 on: November 14, 2022, 03:12:34 PM »
Update, the candle is installed using the exact holes, I put the exact wires into it that matched up to the old ones, soldered the ends up just like Bally did connecting to the wire block. The switch was not working, so I found another one. Seems every on/off switch, micro switch was/is bad on this slot machine.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2022, 03:11:49 PM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #347 on: November 14, 2022, 03:21:29 PM »
The upper cabinet is finished, hopefully so I buttoned it up, I wanted to put the glass back where it would be safer back in the cabinet since its unique

Cross your fingers.  :yes:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #348 on: November 15, 2022, 01:14:13 PM »
Another day of repairs. The reels are worn and the side to side play is causing them to brush up against the wiper blade assembly. Since I am a safe and vault technician, I have the perfect solution. I have safe door shims that are several thickness, I found the correct size and resolved the issues, they are running slick. If this was something that I could purchase new I would have done it, however these are not produced.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #349 on: November 16, 2022, 09:45:30 PM »
The payout relay was missing a switch, that required me to rebuild it, just ironing out the issues. Still a lot more work. Thankfully I have a lot of good help from Wolftalk.


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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #350 on: November 18, 2022, 04:36:50 PM »
Long story real short.The meters were not working in the slot machine, the beau plugs in the cabinet were the problem. I found out the one beau plug wire in the reel was missing, in the upper cabinet plug two wires were swapped around on that beau plug. I used the wiring diagram for my reference, after I was finished the meters are working without any issues. So, check all of the beau plugs for any issues, saves you a whole lot of time. On this slot machine the meters are important to operate the machine.

Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #351 on: November 19, 2022, 07:55:41 AM »
I'm going to tackle the circuit that starts the hopper motor, everything so far has been done in order. The slot machine needed to be serviced, everything had to be removed then cleaned, repaired, sourced parts, build the hopper. The coin assembly needed to be overhauled, the nickel would reject most of the time, the micro switch was faulty, as well as most micro switches in the slot machine.
After that was establishing power, removing the small bugs, getting the slot machine in a state where I could troubleshoot the wiring, repair the the problems one circuit at a time. So far I established the coin circuit to function, addressing the wiring problems. The lockout coil circuit was established, after replacing coils, repair wiring, source more missing parts. The 3 meters do play a part in the operating system, the wiring was totally wrong, everything was a mess, missing meters, brackets, just a big issue that I finally got turned around. While going through the repairs, I had several hopper issues that I have been taking care of as I progress through the slot machine. As of now the slot machine is functioning even tho the hopper motor is not working, it's been a long journey, still more repairs are needed.

This is my next job, following the circuit for the motor, I came up with a plan to source out the problems.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #352 on: November 19, 2022, 07:47:25 PM »
Checked out the circuit, all is good here.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #353 on: November 20, 2022, 01:44:13 PM »
Working on the reels, the black arrow is pointing to a temp test wire.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2022, 04:49:04 PM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #354 on: November 20, 2022, 01:47:23 PM »
Working on the reels, everything looks factory, It's really important to study the soldering connections for signs of tampering.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2022, 04:50:36 PM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #355 on: November 20, 2022, 01:49:27 PM »
Working on the reels. Checking to see if everything aligns up.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2022, 04:51:41 PM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #356 on: November 20, 2022, 04:47:58 PM »
The marks on the reel disc is the payout. It helps me test out the win relays. Hopefully, this information will help others out.

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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #357 on: November 20, 2022, 09:49:34 PM »
Hello, I have been looking for another Bally slot machine for a long, long, time. So, I am back for another challenge. I restored a Bally before on this forum sourcing all of the missing parts.
809-ZZN model
Here it is:


I have a lot
of parts and some old Bally's.
if you need anything i may have it.
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #358 on: November 21, 2022, 04:16:14 PM »
Hello, I have been looking for another Bally slot machine for a long, long, time. So, I am back for another challenge. I restored a Bally before on this forum sourcing all of the missing parts.
809-ZZN model
Here it is:


I have a lot
of parts and some old Bally's.
if you need anything i may have it.
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #359 on: November 21, 2022, 04:26:00 PM »
Today I'm working on another wiring run, two wiring runs that meet in the #1 reel. I'm no expert, but I am working on the electrical wiring that activates the hopper motor, through some switches using the 90 wire and the 23 wire. It's back to work trying to find the problem, then repair it. I actually enjoy this, it's a progression if you been following my post. I use new papers stapled together every time I start a new wiring diagram project in the slot machine, so I don't get lost.

I have been testing some of the wires, beau plugs, switches, looking for the problem, good news I was able to repair half of the wiring equation, and one coil that was dead.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.

 

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