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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2023, 07:45:19 PM »
Take out the bill validator and see if it closes.  Sometimes the beak isn't aligned well. Or check alignment when closing slowly.   If you put a small piece of masking tape on the door, and another on the cabinet near the optics, then, with the door open,  mark where the optic is.  For the door, the latch needs to be down, then mark.  Once you close the door  you can see if it aligns.. 

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2023, 07:50:18 PM »
If it has a coin tray make sure it is in correctly or the door can't close all the way.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2023, 08:01:49 PM »
Take out the bill validator and see if it closes.  Sometimes the beak isn't aligned well. Or check alignment when closing slowly.   If you put a small piece of masking tape on the door, and another on the cabinet near the optics, then, with the door open,  mark where the optic is.  For the door, the latch needs to be down, then mark.  Once you close the door  you can see if it aligns..

Tried removing the bill validator with no success. Gonna try the tape next

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2023, 08:07:33 PM »
Take out the bill validator and see if it closes.  Sometimes the beak isn't aligned well. Or check alignment when closing slowly.   If you put a small piece of masking tape on the door, and another on the cabinet near the optics, then, with the door open,  mark where the optic is.  For the door, the latch needs to be down, then mark.  Once you close the door  you can see if it aligns..

Tried with the tape and the optics line up. It feels like the door is fully closing, but I can still open it without touching the lever and the message is still there.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2023, 08:14:31 PM »
The lever has to slide all the way down.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2023, 08:15:12 PM »
Are these what the optical sensors are supposed to look like? Picture number 2 seems wrong to me but I cant explain why.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2023, 08:16:42 PM »
The lever has to slide all the way down.

No matter how I close the machine, the lever doesn't go all the way down. The bracket seems kind of loose, should I try to tighten it? I also removed the coin tray with no luck.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2023, 08:25:12 PM »
I managed to get the door closed (there was a gap at the top of the door that the door wasnt getting over), But I still have the error message which makes me think its the optics. Any ideas?

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2023, 06:06:55 AM »
What happens a lot is these IGT S2000 door hinges are weakened over time and the door sags.
Pushing upwards on the frame under the top right hand corner of the reel glass on the door usually gets them fully closed.

As you move the door latch to the closed position, keep an eye on the [Coins Played] window on the display, whatever number is in there should momentarily go out as the door optics are aligned....after about 1-3 seconds, some number will come back on.
If this behavior is present, your door optics are operational.
Whatever number that came back on, must stay on when the latch is closed....that means the optics are aligned and "see" each other.

On the door is an emitter optic.....it shoots out an infared light to the cabinet receiver optic.
If the emitter is good, you can see a blue light coming out of that door mounted optic with a digital camera.
You cannot see any light on the cabinet mounted receiver optic tho.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2023, 12:40:00 PM »
What happens a lot is these IGT S2000 door hinges are weakened over time and the door sags.
Pushing upwards on the frame under the top right hand corner of the reel glass on the door usually gets them fully closed.

As you move the door latch to the closed position, keep an eye on the [Coins Played] window on the display, whatever number is in there should momentarily go out as the door optics are aligned....after about 1-3 seconds, some number will come back on.
If this behavior is present, your door optics are operational.
Whatever number that came back on, must stay on when the latch is closed....that means the optics are aligned and "see" each other.

On the door is an emitter optic.....it shoots out an infared light to the cabinet receiver optic.
If the emitter is good, you can see a blue light coming out of that door mounted optic with a digital camera.
You cannot see any light on the cabinet mounted receiver optic tho.

I didn't see any blue light from the optic and the coin cell battery on the MPU is dead. I'm gonna replace the battery later today, but the door is definitely closing now.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2023, 02:51:35 PM »
You're not going to see anything come out of that emitter optic with a dead MPU battery.
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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2023, 03:22:07 PM »
You're not going to see anything come out of that emitter optic with a dead MPU battery.

Replaced it and saw no improvement, but the replacement was a really quick hack job (they spot welded the old battery so I had to use jumpers). I want to try to fix the other board, as it has a proper battery holder and a fully charged battery but I can't do that for a few hours. Its risky to use the other board (I don't know 100% whats wrong with it, so it could fry my working chips) but I am still going to try.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2023, 03:46:05 PM »
Put the SB100026 in the 1st MPU w/the good battery, along with the SG GME1 & GME2 pairs and a  Version chip.
It should work...the problem might just only be that the SB was backwards and the chip that was "slanted", you re-installed correctly.

Which chip was "slanted"? The SG pairs?
Leave the SS prom and SB001000 chips out for now.
All your pictures earlier have the software mixed up and incompatiable which each other...
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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2023, 03:57:56 PM »
Put the SB100026 in the 1st MPU w/the good battery, along with the SG GME1 & GME2 pairs and a  Version chip.
It should work...the problem might just only be that the SB was backwards and the chip that was "slanted", you re-installed correctly.

Which chip was "slanted"? The SG pairs?
Leave the SS prom and SB001000 chips out for now.
All your pictures earlier have the software mixed up and incompatiable which each other...

The RAM chips were what was slanted. (See the green "ADVANCED" chips in the picture) should I move those to the other board as well? Fixing them were what fixed the secondary board so I'm wondering if they are whats breaking the first board as well.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2023, 06:32:05 PM »
Put the SB100026 in the 1st MPU w/the good battery, along with the SG GME1 & GME2 pairs and a  Version chip.
It should work...the problem might just only be that the SB was backwards and the chip that was "slanted", you re-installed correctly.

Which chip was "slanted"? The SG pairs?
Leave the SS prom and SB001000 chips out for now.
All your pictures earlier have the software mixed up and incompatiable which each other...

Just tried swapping all chips from semi-working board to non-working board. No results. Working board is now using Tabasco SB, Version and other chips. The only chips that are the same are the RAM chips because I know 100% that they work. Even will all the chip swaps, I am getting the same thing. Im pretty sure I have the coin cell battery connected but still not getting an IR light. I'm thinking about bypassing it cause im sure the door is closed, but wanted to know if there are any other things I should try first.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2023, 06:41:40 PM »
okay...In your photo above, you need to take out the SS chip...it ONLY works with the SB001000 chip....not with the Tabasco SB chip.
Alternatively, you could take out the tabasco chip, and shove in the SB001000 with the SS chip.
Certain chips work with each other....others don't.

Look at it this way....the GME 1&2 chips are like Windows XP, Vista or Windows 8...those are the operating chips.

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The Version chip is sort of like a juristictional chip that are region specific such as New Jersey, or Nevada, Mississippi, etc, etc.
Some jurisdictions don't allow one dollar bills to be accepted, have different RULES, or things like taxation on awards of $1,199.00 or higher where the machine must lock-up for an attendant hand-pay situation.
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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2023, 06:43:03 PM »
okay...In your photo above, you need to take out the SS chip...it ONLY works with the SB001000 chip....not with the Tabasco SB chip.

I had tried that in the working board, removed the SS and SB chip and put in the "backwards" Tabasco chip. The board still works fine but no optics.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2023, 12:21:13 AM »
So if I am doing my research (and electronics) correctly, My internal door optic that should be emitting an IR signal isn't transmitting anything, Meaning I need a new door led. Does anybody know what the LED specs would be? (the voltage seems to pulse ~9v to 0v which is way higher then the LEDs I work with can handle). If not I can just buy a new door optic set, but I'd like to fix this on the component level if possible.

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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2023, 09:01:27 AM »
"pulse ~9v to 0v " meaning vdc or vac:scratch-head_3:

I would look at the schematics in the NLG File System for your machine.  :yes:
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Re: IGT S2000 Tabasco Machine All Board LEDs No VFD Message
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2023, 10:05:35 AM »
The signal to the emitter is complex digital pulses. If it's really hitting 9V then either the diode is open, or you have a problem on the MPU board.
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