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Author Topic: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?  (Read 1952 times)

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IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« on: January 26, 2023, 08:56:11 AM »
Have a 3902 that works fine. Ended up picking up an 044 backplane, mpu and flashboard. Person I acquired it from stated the backplane and MPU were tested good, but the flashboard they were tossing in was untested (GK 003448), and priced the set accordingly.

Removed the old, installed the new - powered up, yellow/green lights lit up, no video and no deck lights. Powered down and re-seated tray, powered on again - no video, no dinging, etc. I could see the monitor receive power - it was just blank. When pressing the reset, monitor displays "No Signal". Powered down, installed Key 28, powered up - same symptoms with no video. Went ahead and swapped it back to my 3902 setup (working fine).

Anything I can further check to help narrow it down to (hopefully) a bad flashboard?

« Last Edit: March 01, 2023, 06:36:48 PM by Super Joker »

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2023, 09:26:35 AM »
Can you test the MPU with a known good flashboard?
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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2023, 09:56:48 AM »
What type of monitor do you have?  Some need to have adjustments made to properly display 044 video signals.

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2023, 10:13:28 AM »
generally the machine will tell you if the flash is bad. I'm with tilt, check the settings on you monitor especially if it's a ceronix.

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2023, 10:18:39 AM »
There is a jumper about 1 -2" from the vga port on some 17" ceronix monitors that needs removed for 044.

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2023, 10:33:56 AM »
Here's the back of my Ceronix. No jumpers that I could see on the display board, nor on the bottom by the connections.  As I am new to the Game King / Igames (did original S, S+ slots for some time), my knowledge of the tips/tricks are limited.

No other boards I can test with - only machine I have at the moment.

Backplane does have J1 jumper at the top, if that's the jumper being talked about.

As there were no bells/whistles, nor deck lights when I had powered it up, it made me think it might be more than a video signal issue.


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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2023, 10:39:45 AM »
You have to remove the cover to get to the jumper. That board on the outside is the touchscreen board.

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2023, 10:41:22 AM »
Got it.

Will try this all again this afternoon, and report back.

Many thanks

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2023, 02:44:04 PM »
Popped the cover. Don't see a jumper.

What is the purpose of the jumper? I see there's an H/V sync option in the monitor menu


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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2023, 03:23:17 PM »
In further digging and internet searching, it appears that I'm on the right track - my monitor does not have a jumper, so it is the software setting via OSD menu that needs toggled (as per my picture)

Will report back again when I've done the swap out...


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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2023, 03:28:22 PM »
Here is a pic of an 044 ceronix I have.   

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2023, 03:28:32 PM »
Yes.  Some have jumpers that need to be changed, others it is in then onscreen menus, and some automatically adjust on their own.  It all depends on make/model.

Instructions from Ceronix in this post:

https://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=8337.msg47906#msg47906

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2023, 03:33:34 PM »
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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2023, 03:34:55 PM »
If you press the first raised button from the left, the monitor will automatically set. The first button is concave.

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2023, 03:38:05 PM »
I read the last couple posts, Hopefully your sync is on.   fingers crossed

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2023, 05:09:09 PM »
That was it, display working now.

Bootup indicates Zero Check Error, Check And Replace Flash.


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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2023, 05:27:27 PM »
Tried a ram clear with Key 28 and reboot, no go. Tried keychip function, hangs indefinitely on the "wait" screen.

So I'm guessing bad flashboard.


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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2023, 05:36:45 PM »
You are welcome to send me the flash board to reflash and install a DEV39 boot chip. No charge if I can't make it work except for return shipping. PM if interested.
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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2023, 11:44:46 AM »
Many thanks, PM also responded to, thread "on hold" for now!

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Re: IGT Game King 044 Upgrade - no video; Flashboard?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2023, 12:09:37 PM »
Newly tested/working flash board. Boots up to the new 39 keychip. Went through standard options, disabled DSA and SHA. When I get to the PURPLE keychip bar and select NON-WAP, it freezes.

Rebooting and stepping through ends up at; Eeprom Device Error -0x10000004  It won't step through past this error.

Bad backplane eprom(?)

 

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