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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally Alpha (Cinevision), and ALL Bally "V___" series - V5000, V2000, V1000, etc. => Topic started by: Border01 on April 14, 2019, 07:48:16 AM
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Having problems installing a USB thumb drive game on my Alpha 2 V22/32. Cf cards load no problem and this is the first USB game I tried to load. Do I have to change a setting to recognize the USB?
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You have the logic door switches disabled with the jumper on the CPU. So USB install can not be done unless you remove the jumper.
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Thanks. How do I remove the jumper?
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The jumper is located here, remove it and plug the original wiring back it as it looks in the attached pic
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When this is done can I still load cf based games?
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Do I connect to the micro switch just above the jumper or the yellow and grey wires near the power supply?
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You have to undo it to install from CF cards. Yes, the micro switch must be connected and closed. Use a piece of tape to closed it temporarily
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Does it matter which way the wires connect from the jumper to micro switch?
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One of the yellow/black wires should have a label on it indicating N/O on it. That one is connected to the top of the switch
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No identification on the wires Any suggestions?
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Plug them in, if that don't work reverse them
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Great Thank you very much for the assistance
James
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by the way, the other yellow/black wire goes to the micro switch on the logic door, so hopefully that one is still connected
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I don’t think so. Micro switch had 2 wires at one time I’m presuming to the jumper switch. If a third wire is required I have no idea where it goes
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Look at my pic above. 2 yellow/black to the switch, but the 2 pin connector on the board has a yellow/black and a grey. The other yellow/black from the switch goes to the other switch at the logic door. Look inside the logic door and you should see a switch on the left with wires connected to it. Usually when the 2 pin jumper is installed on the board, they just disconnect the switch and leave it that way so the switch at the logic door should still be connected. All that jumper does is fool the machine into thinking that both of the switches are closed so you can install from a CF card.
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Sorry for my lack of understanding but what is the logic door?
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Sorry for my lack of understanding but what is the logic door?
The little door that you insert the CF cards into
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Holly lots of info. I did notice two wires that a cut going towards the logic door one yellow and one gray. I think that’s what you are referring too.
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Well, if removing the jumper don't work then you only other option is to copy what is on the thumb drive to a cf card and load the game from that.
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Wouldn't it be easier just to copy the files to a CF card than hassling with the jumpers?
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It's really sounding that way. I am going to try a new approach tonight that might work. If it doesn't, than I will transfer to the CF card.
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Idesign would this be the correct wiring procedure?
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Looks correct, see pic attached for connection to the switch. The top yellow/black goes to the jumper connector and the other yellow goes to the logic door switch.
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Thank you. I appreciate your patience.
James
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I just cut out the wires that go to the logic door switch, or move the middle wire on the logic door switch to the bottom tab, that way the only switch that matters is the one close to the connector. I use a thumb twist lock to open/close logic door. A lot easier than pulling the mpu off and on to install the jumper.
Also a note to consider, if your USB thumb drive was inserted into a windows 10 or mac osx machine, they will write some information on the thumb drive and the installer will not let you install from it because it finds unauthorized content on the drive. So you need to remove the directories and files that are not supposed to be there (only the .img files are supposed to be in the drive, nothing else). The only way I know to remove these directories if the usb drive is formatted NTFS is to plug it into a linux environment and remove them that from a shell or cli prompt, windows will not let you remove the "System Volume Information" directory.
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I always install from the USB without problems, always says that the folder "System Volume Information" was ignored
only the files in the root directory are considered
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Does the cf door micro switch only have 2 wires?
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yes, usually wrapped in black plastic as it goes to the switch so it looks like a single bundle
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Just wanted to confirm. I will give it a go tonight.
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Do I need to use the install CF card with the USB Game
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Yes, you do.....what game are you trying to install this way?
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Trying to load hot shot twin fire. I removed the original jumper that had the yellow/black and grey wires tied together. Rewired the machine as per your diagrams taped both micro switches closed and get the same message
Boot splash:status on console 0 changed to off
System halting
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Is install card in the top CF slot and USB in the last remaining USB port?
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Yes sir it is. When I rewired it I plugged the jumper back in wired like your picture.
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Trying to load hot shot twin fire. I removed the original jumper that had the yellow/black and grey wires tied together. Rewired the machine as per your diagrams taped both micro switches closed and get the same message
Boot splash:status on console 0 changed to off
System halting
So you get that same message when the original jumper was installed? Wish you would have provided that info before all this back and forth. I don't think this has anything to do with the jumper although you still would have to change the wiring to install from a thumb drive.
Put the jumper back in that you removed (yellow/black and grey wired together) and just put an install CF card into the top slot and boot up to confirm that the machine is seeing the card in the top slot. It should boot up and go to the white screen. Then try to install a different game from a CF card. Don't worry about the wiring that you hooked up because the jumper bypasses it all.
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With the jumper in CF cards no problem.
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With the jumper in CF cards no problem.
Are you speaking from previous experience or did you just try it?
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Previous experience. I'll redo it tonight and let you know
James
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Put the jumper back in and loaded game (ZZ top live from Texas) from CF Cards no problem
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Anyone know what I did wrong?
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I can’t reproduce the error you are getting. At this point in time I think it would be best to just copy the files from the thumb drive to a cf card.
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Will do. I have a cf reader arriving on Monday. Hope it works
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Curios, what BIOS and OS do you have? Also which version of the install card do you have/
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Bios 231326C
OS366E
Game has: 304611B
270585B
270586B
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Oh it's a 2.1 MPU. Just making sure you have an OS that can recognize a flash drive install. Also make sure you have no dongles on the system while you try to install.
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I received a Kingston Card Reader today and a SanDisk 16gb compact flash card. I tried to move the file from the USB to the compact flash card. One file 101mb transferred no problem, the second file 8.48gb won't transfer, it says file too large for the destination file system. I copied the usb file to my computer, just to confirm it is only 8.48gb, and the transferred copy confirmed that it is 8.48gb My Storage on the CF card specifies 14.9 gb available. I thought that maybe I needed to format the CF card, did that, but still same error. What am I missing?
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You need to re-format the CF card to an NTFS filesystem.
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Thanks
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What allocation file size do I select?
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Doesn't matter, just pick the default.
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Making some great progress. Cf cards load but I think I need to swap the top and bottom monitors on the mpu? I don’t know where they are located on the MPU. The screens appear reversed and my 22†monitor display is sideways
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Mpu has the following connections for monitor
Touch screen (primary, secondary)
Monitor (primary, secondary)
Display port video interface (primary,secondary)
What ones get swapped?
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Just reverse the 2 connections on the video card. Then clear and reboot to the setup screen.
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Sorry for my lack of understanding, but which 2 are they? Touch, monitor or display? I assume the monitor?
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The 2 connections on the video card are for the top and bottom monitor. Not sure which video card you have but it either has 2 or 3 ports. The top monitor should be connected to the left display port and the bottom monitor would be connected to the right hand display port or the DVI port on the right
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Finally have the game up and fully functioning. Had to swap all 6 monitor connections. Thank you very much for all the tremendous assistance. Never would have been possible without your help
James