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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT I-Game and Game King => Topic started by: r13wood on December 11, 2019, 01:55:25 PM
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I have a quick question hopefully someone on here can answer it. I have a Gameking running the 3902 mains. I bought some new GMEs and SIMMs to change the game from the GameKing software to "The Munsters", but the GMEs say I-Game on them. I have been getting the confetti screen and checked all the EPROMS and SIMMs and they are all aligned correctly and in the right direction. Will the 3902 play GMEs that are for an I-Game? My Gameking has only the 1 row of [HOLD] buttons for Poker, but I also have an I-Game that has the 2 rows of buttons. The machine is doing a RAM clear with the Key40 chip, but then it just goes to the confetti screen. I can't put the 3902 mains on my I-Game because it is running the 044. If it helps, here is the software I am trying to install....
Also if anyone has a chop top 17" set of glass for The Munsters I will buy it from you at a reasonable cost. Not what people have been trying to sell it for on ebay for the past year.
Base: I0000499
GME1: G0000912
GME 2: G0000912
CGF: C0000379
PXLF3: C0000379
PXLF4: C0000379
DSS: DSS00055
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Post a pic of he board with the mentioned software installed. I don't know what you are callng "mains". You need a legacy board aka Memory 1 board on an 044 MPU to use 3902 software. It also needs a DSPL0006 chip.
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3902 MPUs are used in both Game Kings and I-games. You don't need the second button deck, you can select the lines you want to play from the touchscreen menus. You'll get a confetti screen when the MPU isn't booting correctly. Since the MPU board was working with the GK software and boots with a keychip we'll assume it's good. That leaves your new software or it's installation on the board as the most likely cause of the problem. GME1 and GME2 in the right spots?
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Wow! Thanks for the quick reply guys. I should mention that I bought a 2nd 3902 MPU so that I do not have to keep swapping the software out if I want to ever change games again as there are a lot of chips to pull for the Gameking software. lol. I am not installing it on the 044 MPU so I will not need the Legacy Board correct? I attached a picture of the MPU without the sound board. I know the one GME is oriented the wrong way in the picture as I thought this was the initial problem. It is now switched the correct way and the problem continued. When I bought the MPU, it was advertised as "tested and working" but I have not put a confirmed working software in it, so it could be an issue with the MPU, but the Boot chip seems to make the most sense.
What would come up on the screen if I just put the MPU in with the Boot chip without doing a RAM clear? I imagine it would show a RAM Error? Right now it is giving me the confetti screen. I am trying to eliminate constantly removing the boot/clear chips every time I troubleshoot it. It should not bring up a confetti screen if I do not RAM clear the machine correct? Also, does it matter which slot the PXL SIMMS go in? Thanks for all your help guys.
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One of your GME chips is installed backwards & there are no static ram chips on the board RM 1 & 2. It shouldn't boot at all. Turn your GME 2 chip around where the notch on the chip matches the one in the socket. Hope it isn't damaged. I have static ram chips if you need them. Meanwhile you can borrow them from your other board.
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Thanks for your help. I will buy those static ram chips from you. I did turn the gme around and when I get home I will try switching the static ram chips maybe that will fix the problem. I am assuming these are general chips that needs to be on every board to help boot a game on the MPU? They are all the same?
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Yes they maintain your current game info so when you turn it off & back on the credits are still there provided you have a good battery. Other settings such as accounting info, denomination settings & game % are stored on the MB eeprom & should be retained even in event of a battery failure.
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I switched all the game to my 3902 MPU that was running the gameking software. So I know that board works. It is doing the same thing.
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like RB said earlier, did you line up the notch on the chip with the notch on the socket?.. backwards or bent pins will do that.
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Could be a bad simm. Check the dips on the PXLs. PXL3 should be on, on, on, off 1-4, PXL4 off, on, on, off. Normally that will cause an error if not set correctly. Bad CGF can cause confetti display.
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All the DIPs are set correctly. Everything looks oriented correctly. Its not working on either board. Does it matter what slot the PXL simms are in?
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No, it doesn't matter what slot they're in. Try booting it with just the base and GME's installed (remove all the simm cards). If it cycles through a few colors on the screen and then comes up with an error then one of the simm cards are bad. If it's still confetti then one of the EPROMs is bad.
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Did you get your problem resolved?
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Not yet I sent the GMEs and Boot Chip back. Still waiting on a return.
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Ok, hopefully that will resolve it for you.
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So I received the working GMEs back yesterday and that fixed the confetti screen, but now it is cycling through the colors for about a minute amd then comes up with a PIXEL ERROR screen. What are the odds.... A bad GME from one vendor and a bad PXL from another. It is doing exactly what Tilt described earlier. The good news is that the guy I bought the PXLs from is about 4 hours away and I am going to be in his area in about a week. I am going to take the whole MPU to him and he is going to fix the PXL and test the board before I pick it up.
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Bummer, but you're making progress. Before you make a 4 hour trip double check your PXLF SIMM dip switches. PXLF3 should be ON ON ON OFF. PXLF4 should be OFF ON ON OFF. That's going SW 1 to SW 4. If those are correct then one of the PXLF SIMMs is bad.
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I did check the dip switches. They are all correct. He even had me try a different configuration and that brought up the confetti screen so I switched them back. I will update the situation in a week.
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Doh, I missed RB's post :banghead: Never hurts to double check though. Ok they should be able to reflash and/or replace your bad SIMM. That should get you up and running. Good luck.
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Update...... So I took the whole board in. He said it was Pixel 4 that was corrupted. He cleared it and reinstalled it on the SIMM. I get home, do a RAM clear, Install the Boot Chip back in and I am getting the same message. (I get the colors and then a Pixel Error) He told me I should use a clear 22 on it. I have been using a Clear 40 which worked great on the original Gameking Software that was on it. That is all I have. Could this be the issue?
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if you want to try a key 22, pm RB here on the site. he can get ya one
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Update...... So I took the whole board in. He said it was Pixel 4 that was corrupted. He cleared it and reinstalled it on the SIMM. I get home, do a RAM clear, Install the Boot Chip back in and I am getting the same message. (I get the colors and then a Pixel Error) He told me I should use a clear 22 on it. I have been using a Clear 40 which worked great on the original Gameking Software that was on it. That is all I have. Could this be the issue?
Key 17 is actually the proper key for your game software. It doesn't have a menu system or a clear function. Wouldn't make any difference anyhow, running a clear isn't going to fix your problem. Did he replace the SIMM card or just reflash it? Did you see it work afterwards? Reflashing for me has worked less than 1% of the time, usually the SIMM card itself is what is bad.
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I am pretty sure he just re-flashed it. So you think it just needs a new SIMM altogether? He took it to another shop so I never saw it start up I don't know if he tested it or not.
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Yeah, more than likely it is.
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I talked to him and he said that he changed out the whole SIMM. I thought maybe my MPU had bad connectors on the Pixel receivers, so I swapped all of the GMEs/PXLs/ect to another 3902 MPU and it is doing the same thing. It cycles through the colors and then brings up a Pixel ROM Signature Error. Not sure what causes a Signature Error. I did get some new reproduction "Munsters" glass from him very inexpensively, but it will do no good if I dont get this thing up and running.
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maybe somehow the dip switches got bumped after he tested it?
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Corrupt data, mismatched software, or bad hardware is what causes a signature error message. The machine reads the data from the simms while booting and compares the checksum from that data to a known value that is should be. If it doesn't match you'll get a signature error message (or in some cases a checksum error). That's what is happening in the background as you watch and wait as the screen colors rotate red/green/blue/purple/yellow.
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Is anyone in the Southern California area that would know how to fix this? I am already invested way too much in shipping costs/GMEs/SIMMs ect.. I hope that the software numbers that I got are actually correct from the source that I got them from. That seems to be the only logical sense of why this is not working.
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just checked your base and gme #'s.. they appear to be correct.
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These were the software I was told I needed. Can somebody please confirm them to make sure it is the correct software set?
MUNSTERS MD 9LN
[/size][/color]
[/size]Boot/Base: I0000499[/color]
[/size]GME I - G0000912 [/color]
[/size]GME II - G0000912[/color]
[/size]CGF - C0000379[/color]
[/size]PXL 3 - C0000379 [/color]
[/size]PXL 4 - C0000379[/color]
[/size]DSS - DSS00055[/color]
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It's correct. Wizeone posted PSRs for your chipset. It's 9L single denomination though, not multi as you wrote.
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Thanks for all your help on this topic everyone. I am not really sure what to do next on it. It seems to be one problem after anotherI have already spent too much money on this software set. If anyone has further suggestions for next steps that dont require me shipping or buying more, I would appreciate it.
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Not sure what you expect anyone to do for you. Your software is bad. You can buy your own programmer, replacement SIMM, and fix it yourself. Or just put your old board/software back in the machine, cut your losses, and call it a day. Next time purchase your software from a reputable vendor who will take care of problems like this.
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I read this thing.
I have 2 questions.
Did you ever see it work at the guy's place or not?
Will he test your MPU along with the chips to see if he can get it going for you?
It can't cost too much to mail the whole board with questionable software to him in a flat rate box?
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I did not see it work at his place. He took it to another shop. All of the DIP settings were correct. If anyone can burn me new PXL SIMMS that work, I will buy them. It seems to be the PXL, not sure if the CGF would give a similar error, but I will just cut my losses and buy new PXLs for it. He gave me a really good deal on the glass, so I guess I can deal with the loss of the Pixels, lol.
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PM sent
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Trying to reply to your PM r13wood. Clean out your inbox. It is full...……...RB
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Machine is FINALLY up and running. Thanks to RB for the help and the working SIMMs. The game took a really long time to clear, but in the end the it booted up and entered the Key Chip menu, and is running great! Thank you all for your help!
I have 1 more question on this machine maybe someone can answer. I am having a hard time finding the menu to change the credit accepted limits and coin acceptor demonination. Right now it will only let me put a $50 in it. Anything past that spits the bill back out. I remember doing it a few times on the GK software that was previously on it, but now I cant find it. It is a key chip option? It has a hopper but I use a printer to cash out. I just use it to store nickels that go into the coin drop. I would like it to be able to accept nickels to store change but cant find that menu either.
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Glad those simms did the trick. :cool_thumb_up:
You need to raise the credit limit and maybe the acceptor limit too. No keychip required.
With NO credits on machine:
press white button
select setup
select machine options
select limit setup
You will need to keychip machine to set denom and enable printer.
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Yea. Thats what I did on the GK software that was on the board but now there is no "Select Limit Setup" option. I attached a picture of the menus I have.
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Nevermind. I forgot to cash out credits. lol
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It was labeled differently. "Credit Style Setup". Thanks for all your help everyone.
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Yay! :dancing_party: It only took like 40+ Replies though! :rotfl:
But now it's working the way you want! :yes:
Good job! :applause: