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| qbert:
--- Quote from: CommTech on September 15, 2008, 08:11:49 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 08, 2006, 09:05:37 PM ---Ok, here's my Mikohn ChamII+ with S+ setup notes. I will detail step-by-step the setup I've just completed. Thanks to ninja66 for lending me the hardware to try. 1. Setup the S+ for progressive. Using a SET90 chip I set up the machine to single level linked. No other options were necessary. (If your SP chip allows you to setup your progressive by flipping the dip switch, you do not need a set chip) 2. Connect the S+ to the chamII+ using harness as per the ChamII+ book. 3 wire connection required. (See Page 33 of the ChamII+ user manual for drawing of this harness) 3. Setup the ChamII+ jackpot settings using the PSP program (the "old" configuration choice on the startup screen). Requires custom serial cable pin 1 to 5 jumped. 3a. These were my settings. Page 1 Base Value 10,000.00 Current Jackpot 10,000.00 Hidden Jackpot 0.00 JP Limit 1,000,000.00 (If I ever get there, I'll let my grandchildren tell you about it) Increment 1 00.250 000 00 (this is 25 cents for every coin dropped into the machine. If you want 1 cent per coin the value would be 00.010 (no matter the denomination set on the S+) Increment 2 00.000 000 00 (if you reach the JP limit, this would be the increment value after you reach the JP limit, so you could set a value here if you wanted for the jackpot to grow after you reach the JP Limit) Other options on this page that are important F3 should be SNGL, F4 M-08, F5 3sec, F6 JP0, F8 MS08 That should do it. Fire them up and your progressive should be fully functional. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:03:27 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 09, 2006, 01:43:17 PM ---One more note regarding the ChamII+ setup. The power supply and the display came from a ChamII which he (ninja66) could not link up to a con1. I tried it, didn't work either. So it's confirmed that the CHAMII power supply and display are pin compatible to the chamII+. Also another interesting observation. He has an IGT progressive 7 segment LED system on his machine. When I hooked up the ChamII+ and set the S+ to single level progressive linked mode. I noticed a little later that the jackpot amount reflected on the IGT display matched the Mikohn display. If I unplogged the mikohn display, the IGT display would go blank. So there's a two way communication going on here. He still wants to use his con1, so he's gonna have invest in a link chamI with display and power supply if he wants multi-machine progressive. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:09:30 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 10, 2006, 10:01:45 AM --- --- Quote from: idesign on February 10, 2006, 05:07:31 AM ---I spent the better part of a day trying to get the CHAMII+ to display something other than the progressive amount. I entered the exact same messages that I use with my CON1 and LED5 (CHAMI) but couldn't get it to do anything else. The machine idle message is not functional on a CHAMII+. I was able to use the test functions of CHAM but it ignored the CON tests. I was not able to get it to display the default demo message either. I got a LOADING......... message on the display and then it went back to the progressive amount. All this was with firmaware version 2.07. Alll of the above was using it as STAND ALONE. It may be totally different if connected to a CON2, but who has the $$$ for that? --- End quote --- If you set the Mfile to 0 using the configuration switches it wll display the PSP sent message Jackpot.do. I know it worked because I changed the display attributes of the Jackpot.Do file and it worked. I also got it to display the demo message. What I couldn't get it to do is to display the idle message Mess.do file that is suppose to display if more than 2 minutes of no coin activity passes by. Also none of the Jack*.do files were displayed during the normal play cycle like it's supposed to. I was using firmware 1.53. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:11:42 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 10, 2006, 10:34:01 AM --- --- Quote from: Cactusjack on February 10, 2006, 10:07:14 AM ---Nowhere have I read that the CHAMII+ supports the 2 minute idle time out like the CON1 does. Therefore, I have to assume the Mess.do file will never work since there is nothing to trigger it to change from the jackpot.do file. CJ --- End quote --- You are probably correct. The manual for the chamII+ only mentions the jpot.do file. I suppose the only way to to have both the jackpot amount displayed and messages would be to make custom backgound.pdf and filename.txt files (which can get very lengthy if you want to do the multicolored "dazzle" and scroll type messages as it is not a function, but you would have to repeat the the phrase over and over like this in order to scroll the message off the screen. Here's a would be sample to scroll of the word "Scroll" Mode(0); Print(Scroll); Wait(5); Print(croll ); Wait(5); Print(roll ); Wait(5); Print(oll ); Wait(5); Print(ll ); Wait(5); Print(l ); Print( ); Wait(5); And that's just to scroll the word "Scroll" and one color, no flashing, etc. So the background.bat file would look like this PRGSV c:default.pdf 10 Text b:filename.txt this would display the jackpot in whatever format your Mfile is set to for 10 seconds then filename.txt would have all those print and wait comands to scroll the word scroll. and the cycle would repeat again. I think that would do it. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
| qbert:
--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:15:49 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on February 13, 2006, 05:09:01 PM ---Good Afternoon! :5- April is shipping the display unit and the board ChamII board that I won a day earlier (one with the chip and VRM) tomorrow. :3- :3- Someone (I think it was ninja66) said that I will need cords to connect these together and to the machine that are available here on NLG. Were here? And what else do I need besides a brain? :76- Thanks! Tim :91- --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:16:34 PM --- --- Quote from: Jay on February 13, 2006, 05:49:47 PM ---Waz there ? ... I assume you are talking IGT reel slot and not the game maker or other. Incidently I see a Spam ICON in your post but no beer....I am not sure how you can have golf in your handle but not respect the 19th hole. anyways I digress.... Connecting is easy.... you need three wires from the ChamII+ and you run them to the mother board. This is the permanently mounted board that the MPU board (the one with the reel/game chips) plugs into at the bottom of the cabinet. Facing the machine on the far right of the board there is a 4 pin connector. You will use the two left most pins. Since all these do is momentarily short polarity is not at issue. On the MPU board (assuming this is a 10mhz board) you will need to flip Switch 5 to turn on progressives. I think 6/7/8 remain off for standalone progressive. You will also need a game chip like 731 that supports progressives. You will need to go to page 9 (9 in the coins played window) and make sure you change progressive from 0 to 1. Let us know how you make out.... or if you need more detailed instructions. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:19:13 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 13, 2006, 07:38:50 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on February 13, 2006, 05:09:01 PM ---Good Afternoon! :5- April is shipping the display unit and the board ChamII board that I won a day earlier (one with the chip and VRM) tomorrow. :3- :3- Someone (I think it was ninja66) said that I will need cords to connect these together and to the machine that are available here on NLG. Were here? And what else do I need besides a brain? :76- Thanks! Tim :91- --- End quote --- First thing you need to do is switch out the logic boards. The Unit that came with the display is a chamII and you need a con2 to drive that, so remove it from the power supply and replace it with the chamII+ you won earlier. Then you need to make a wire harness to the S+. Not to step on Jay's toes, but the chamII+ requires a 3 wire connection to the S+. The pin out specs are in the manual for the chamII+. I made a couple of these cables for Ninja66. He paid for the components. Maybe he's willing to part with one as he only has one chamII+ controller. The first post on this thread as the step by step details on what I had to do to get it going. Not all that difficult. You will need a computer capable of running PSP though. I've had mixed sucess running it of Windows XP. I used an old toshiba laptop that had windows 98 and it worked like a champ. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:20:35 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 13, 2006, 08:59:34 PM ---you need a special cable made. You can basically take a standard serial cable and jump pins 1 and 5. That will work. You also need to download PSP from this site in the download folder. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:24:08 PM --- --- Quote from: Cactusjack on February 21, 2006, 05:42:41 PM ---A CHAM2 does not hook up to the S+. Only connects to the CON. If you are talking CHAM2+ (that's PLUS), then J7 connects to the prog connector J12 on the mother board of the S+ or PE+ The Harness is pictured on page 33(39) of this manual: CHAMII+ User Manual 990-241-38 Rev B CJ --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:25:38 PM --- --- Quote from: Jay on February 21, 2006, 06:00:45 PM ---I believe the chamII+ interface is is a 3 wire rig..... If you look at the S+ straight on with the hopper removed. The mother board is on the bottom. The tray with the knob is the MPU board and that plugs into the mother board. On the front right side of the motherboard there is a 4 pin connector. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:26:36 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on February 21, 2006, 07:06:21 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on February 21, 2006, 04:42:19 PM --- Were do I hook up on the CHAM2 with the wires from the mother board? Besides the serial there are 3 more places that somthing can be pluged in . Thanks! Tim --- End quote --- From the description of the boot process you posted on the other thread, you have a ChamII. That will only work with a con2 supercontroller. You had said earilier that you also purchased the ChamII Plus logicboard by itself. You will need to replace that board with the one that is mounted on the powersupply. The power supply and display will work with the ChamII Plus. Once you do that you will need to program your progressive information using the PSP program and next you will need to connect the whole thing to the S-Plus. It requires a 3 wire connection between J12 on S+ Mainboard (not the one you remove for game changes, but the one that is fixed on the slot cabinet) and J7 of the ChamII Plus as follows Pin 4 from S+ J12 goes to pin 3 on ChamII Plus J7 Pin 3 from S+ J12 goes to pin 13 on ChamII Plus J7 Pin 2 from S+ J12 goes to pin 11 on ChamII Plus J7 --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
| qbert:
--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:34:41 PM --- --- Quote from: rickhunter on March 04, 2006, 03:15:40 PM ---I bought the plugs from mouser ([url=http://www.mouser.com]www.mouser.com)[/url]www.mouser.com)](www.mouser.com)[/url]. There's a minimum order of $25.00 so I bought multiples. J12 is pictured here. It's the one with the Red Plug on it. The part # from mouser is 640614. It's 22 AWG wire. Pin 1 is to the right. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:36:47 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 05, 2006, 08:37:35 AM ---So far so good..I have the cables and computer ready........The dos program is asking for a password and the number keys are all that to seem to work. HELP! Thanks! Tim --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:37:31 PM --- --- Quote from: idesign on March 05, 2006, 08:56:06 AM ---The password is 135642 --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:38:37 PM --- --- Quote from: idesign on March 05, 2006, 09:19:12 AM ---Don't forget to jump pins 1 and 5 on the cable or back of the board. Also, pick OLD, NOT CON1 or CON2. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:41:13 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 05, 2006, 10:58:02 AM ---OK! Thanks........... :89- :91- :89-..Got it doing all kinds of cool stuff, displaying text, the demo message etc. I can not get it to communicate with the S+. I am guessing as to the wire placement on the units. On the mother board there are 4 pins, are they 1,2,3,4, left to right? And on the CHAMII+ there are 14 pins on the J7. Looking at the board with the J7 on the bottom, are the pins 1-7 on the top row and 8-14 on the bottom left to right? I have the S+ set up for progressive stand alone (I guess) and it has the page 9 progressive settings available (I know that this is for the IGT display but it does show that the machine is set up for progressive...Right?) Thanks! Tim --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:42:07 PM --- --- Quote from: idesign on March 05, 2006, 11:03:03 AM ---On J7, pin 1 coonects to pin 2 on the S+, pin 2 on J7 connects to pin 3 on the S+ and pin 6 on J7 connects to pin 1 on the S+. --- End quote --- --- End quote --- --- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:48:08 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 06, 2006, 03:45:13 PM ---Thanks! Would you believe....... :5-....that I might just Leave it in the display mode.. :50- Wile I was waiting to find out how you get out of the demo mode (I had been hitting the jackpot.do reload...will try it like Jay said) I decided to have a little fun with it. I re wrote the demo, added some different effects, and now I have a sign welcoming people to my casino room. I put so much stuff on there that it takes over 8 min. to repeat. :91- On the first one I have decided to mount the display on top in a 2" high enclosure with the power supply inside. I am making it in such a way that it will add to the cooling of the upper cabinet by cutting out the large circular hole that is in the metal, but not in the laminate. That way the hot air that is in the upper 16" top should, by convection, be drawn into the upper part I am building and channeled into the cooling slot I am providing. I will send some pictures when I get the formica on. Well................I'M hooked now.. :72- Already have a bid in on another CHAMII+ and another power supply. And I purchased 3 IGT progressive displays from April yesterday for......she is probably going to slap me for posting this....75.00 each. So I think I'M going to copy Jay and have the primary on the Mikohn and the secondary jackpot on the IGT. And thanks to all of you...... :7- :18- :30- :39- :7-....I did not drive Jay totally NUTS this weekend! :3- :3- :3- Thanks again! Tim --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
| qbert:
--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:49:58 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 07, 2006, 06:47:06 PM ---Finished the mounting box. Made 3 alike but only took the time to put the gloss black laminate on one. Has 1/16 Plexiglas in front, 3/4" cooling slot in the back. Pictures follow in separate posts due to my :32- speed dial up. Tim --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
| qbert:
--- Quote from: CommTech on September 16, 2008, 02:53:40 PM --- --- Quote from: cessnac182golf on March 07, 2006, 06:55:07 PM ---Finished --- End quote --- --- End quote --- |
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