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Title: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 09, 2018, 02:24:34 PM
I am a relative noob to the video gaming machines and just recently purchased a IGT AVP machine.  Its a G23 cabinet with a 625 brainbox and has Game king 8.3 installed right now.  (GAME014-001NW3-D11) . I also have an ekey 7.  What I don't have are the GK installer software,  nor do I see a license dongle.


1.  Can I load other slot games along side the GK software?
2.  If I cannot, and I have to wipe and load other games how do I get the 8.3 software back?
3.  Does every game have a loader software and a license dongle?  (I see the "one piece of the puzzle" comments but mine does not have a dongle)
4.  Is there any recommendations on maximizing the potential of this awesome machine?


Thanks in advance and be gentle if my questions or info seems ignorant, because frankly I am when it comes to this machine.


MB
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: rickhunter on December 09, 2018, 06:09:05 PM
All games have a loader and corresponding license dongle.  If you don't have the gk8.3 loader, there's no way to reload the software.  It is easy enough to just get a sandisk SSD and replace the current drive with it. Initialize the ssd and install a fresh os (you need an OS installer for that as well).

You can load slot games into it, I have done it with gameking 8.2. 

I'm curiuos, what os version is in your machine?  You can see what you have by turning the jackpot reset key and selecting Version==>Packages==>System.  I am interested in the AVPxxx, QNXxxx, ConfigXXX

Also if you don't already have a Diagnostic USB key, I suggest you get one as well.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 09, 2018, 07:59:57 PM
Rickhunter, 


Thanks for the info!  I figured as much.  So just so I’m clear (and don’t waste money to buy games), I can load other games along side of the GK 8.3? 


When you say you need an OS installer, is that something I can find (buy, download,etc)


Any idea where I can get a USB diagnostic key?


My OS is;
AVP014-00597
QNX6.5-0009A
CONFIG014-007-212
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: rickhunter on December 09, 2018, 08:15:15 PM
Yes OS installers are usually sold on a USB flash drive, same way Game installer come.

You can post a WTB for an OS installer.  Looks like your OS installer should be AIO14-B0C.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 10, 2018, 09:00:02 AM
Thanks again for the info!  Is there a certain version of the diagnostic key that I should look for?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: rickhunter on December 10, 2018, 09:09:02 AM
You would probably need diagnostic 14-20 or 14-21
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 24, 2018, 01:00:36 AM
Being 8.3 and B series OS I would assume it is ASB014 bootchips correct?
So how is it that you dont have a license dongle in it yet there is no game not licensed error :Scratch-Head:   Could it be, um, uh, well... you know........... Man that would be nice if "those" were available in the ASB014 version of bootchips  :propeller: .


Really curious about the bootchips and if for CERTAIN there isn't a license dongle hiding in there somewhere. Good luck on your diag020 or 021 quest.


Dave
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 24, 2018, 05:49:14 AM
Dave, 


No license dongle for sure.   Was also able to load about 12  more reel games along side GK 8.3 without any issues. The boot chips I have are AVPSBO14B3004 and AVPSB01410E05.  I was kinda shocked that they didn’t match, but I’m definitely not complaining.  Was also able to get a 21 key thanks to one of the generous members on here and able to clear my error.


M
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 24, 2018, 01:11:37 PM
Well sir, hang on to those bootchips! I would mark them to make sure you dont confuse them later. A lot of the new games being developed for 3.0 required a AI014-BXX minimum OS.
Can you load the diag 21 and go to version information and tab over to bootchips and see what they are reading as?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 24, 2018, 02:16:35 PM
I’m out of town for the holidays, but I will as soon as I get back.  Bought this machine for my wife for Christmas and I think I found a unicorn.  I know those stickers are not always what they are, so I’ll check for sure.


M
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 29, 2018, 07:20:52 PM
Dave,


Where do I find where the boot hips are registering?  In Diag menu, Version Onformation, but which tab?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 29, 2018, 07:28:08 PM
I believe it is the devices tab
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: bpracer on December 29, 2018, 07:35:46 PM
Version Information and then Devices
Boot Prom on the bottom line
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 29, 2018, 07:38:24 PM
Looked there and didn’t see anything that looks right.  Does AVPSHOW014-13 mean anything?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 29, 2018, 08:10:20 PM
Yep, that's them. Looks like you got lucky, version 13 show chips must work with B series OS. Hang on to them.


Now that makes me curious :Scratch-Head:
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on December 29, 2018, 08:12:37 PM
Sweet!  Let me know if you need any info from my machine.  Would be happy to take pics of whatever you need.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 29, 2018, 08:16:49 PM
Can you take pics of OS tab screen and games screen?


Side note:I know these "show" chips are not a secret anymore so I'm curious of how many versions are out there (i.e SHOW014-12, SHOW014-13 etc? And what functionality differences the different version have.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: 777sizzler on December 29, 2018, 08:20:03 PM
The boot chips you have have been around for a couple years.  That is why everyone sold all their license dongles and software--LOL. 
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 29, 2018, 08:22:52 PM
The boot chips you have have been around for a couple years.  That is why everyone sold all their license dongles and software--LOL.


More than a couple years Barry. I have been using them at trade shows for many years. The question at hand is how many versions of said show chips are out there. He has A series OS dependent games and B series OS dependent games living together.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: bpracer on December 29, 2018, 08:27:45 PM
The boot chips you have have been around for a couple years.  That is why everyone sold all their license dongles and software--LOL.


More than a couple years Barry. I have been using them at trade shows for many years. The question at hand is how many versions of said show chips are out there. He has A series OS dependent games and B series OS dependent games living together.

Do we know if Boot 1 is A series or B Series?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on December 29, 2018, 08:41:34 PM
Good question Bryan,
Michael can you take a pic of the devices screen too, I know the original show chips for family 014 were just AVPSHOW-014 and all that was different was they stripped the license manager out of the boot 2 but boot 1 had to match. Maybe in the newer SHOW versions boot 1 is irrelevant.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: 777sizzler on December 29, 2018, 10:08:46 PM
Pretty sure that just boost chip 2 does it all on that as it's what I have and run and boot 1 is generic lata dah.  With the machine on just twist the key and go to support and view your packages-no e-key required. Boot 1 was burnt to match boot 2. 
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: idesign on January 04, 2019, 04:07:31 PM
Does anybody have a PSR for AI014-BO3 OS, I want to confirm the file numbers.  The numbers Blair2020 listed above are different than what I have so maybe his OS is even newer.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on January 04, 2019, 04:18:02 PM
He is running AI014-B0C.
AI014-B03 is AVP014-00510


I don't have the PSR handy but I have the Lab Letter.


David
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: idesign on January 04, 2019, 04:25:14 PM
Just realized the difference, thanks.  So is AI014-BA1 even newer?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on January 04, 2019, 04:31:23 PM
I think AI014-B0D is the newest right now. Well, in my jurisdiction anyway. It has a date code of 9-28-18 but has minimal insignificant changes from B0C.

Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on January 04, 2019, 06:35:35 PM
Jeff, I believe it is as follows, top to bottom newest to oldest. B00 and BA0 came out together, one with CONFIG014-007-XXX and the other with CONFIG-021-XXX. still trying to figure out why. It almost appears they were building 2 different "B" OS trees but the "B0" side evolved while the "BA" side stopped after BA1.


*AI014-B0D/ AVP014-00609 with CONFIG014-007-213 and QNX6.5-0009A
 
 *AI014-B0C/ AVP014-00597 with CONFIG014-007-212 and QNX6.5-0009A
 
 *AI014-B0A/ AVP014-00565 with CONFIG014-007-210 and QNX6.5-0009A
 
 *AI014-B08/ AVP014-00542 with  CONFIG014-007-208 and QNX6.6-0008
 
 *AI014-B07/ AVP014-00540 with CONFIG014-007-207 and QNX6.5-0008
 
 *AI014-B04/ AVP014-00517 with CONFIG014-007-204 and QNX6.5-0008
 
 *AI014-B03/ AVP014-00510 with CONFIG014-007-203 and QNX6.5-0008
 
 *AI014-B02/ AVP014-00507 with CONFIG014-007-202 and QNX6.5-0008
 
 *AI014-BA1/ AVP014-00509 with CONFIG014-021-201 and QNX6.5-0008
 
 *AI014-B00/ AVP014-00500 with CONIFG014-007-200 and QNX6.5-0007
 
 *AI014-BA0/ AVP014-00500 with CONFIG014-021-200 and QNX6.5-0007
 
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: buzzarama on January 04, 2019, 07:30:45 PM
Ok, I figured it out.
AI014-BA0 and AI014-BA1 are for ASBC (AVP Bonus System Controller) and are not designated for "EGM" or machine use. There isn't any support for cash or credit handling, ticket printing, or client game installation.

I have checked all of the B series OS's and they all say they require ASB014 style chips. So, I'm still stumped on Blairs configuration. There are a couple of guys trying to duplicate his setup with various OS versions.


David
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: idesign on January 05, 2019, 06:51:10 AM
Ah, then best to stay away from AI014-BA1 then
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on January 10, 2019, 10:21:54 AM
Just to close this thread out, here is my setup if anyone wants to emulate it:

625 Brainbox

OS:
AIO14-B0C

Boot:
1- AVPSB014B3004
2-AVPSHOW014-13

G.K. 8.3 Version D11 (GAME014-001NW3-D11)

Able to run GK and all slots in harmony.  Did a fresh install on a new SSD and everything still worked flawlessly.

Thanks to all for your help and a special thanks to Bryan.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: rickhunter on January 10, 2019, 11:48:34 AM
Were you able to do the ezconfig to run all games.  When I do that, I get an error saying I'm missing some kind of module?  I can enable all games individually, but with over 70 games, that takes a while.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: Blair2020 on January 10, 2019, 12:07:52 PM
I was able to use it.  Do you have the GK Enhanced menu option?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: rickhunter on January 10, 2019, 12:20:07 PM
I only installed the GK 8.3 loader and the BC0 OS.  Is there another loader?  All I did was a fresh os install, then installed the loader through the ekey menu and then I went into the ez setup and tried to enable all games at once, but then I got a tilt saying I was missing some kind of feature, I should have taken a screen shot. I can try the option again tonight and take a shot.
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: idesign on January 10, 2019, 01:31:03 PM
Rick, what version of the game are you using.  Mine is 1NW3-D03 but his is 1NW3-D11, could that be the issue?
Title: Re: IGT AVP with Game King 8.3 Question
Post by: 777sizzler on January 10, 2019, 01:32:33 PM
Rick if you are running a game like back to the future etc.  it has to be disabled to run the others -FI loader-which I am sure you know?.
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