**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: mwade109 on August 23, 2023, 01:38:11 PM
Title: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 23, 2023, 01:38:11 PM
Ok, so I picked up a S+ to use as a test machine, has a bad mainboard (acid burns) so I bought another one and put it in but having some errors. Everything plays well with it except:
Can't get reel spin sounds no matter what setting I have dip3 on After about 10 minutes of idle time, with or without credits in it, it gets a 21 error. At first I thought maybe it was a attract sound that was not loading but I left credits in the machine, I don't believe ant attract would sound with credits there. If I do anything to activate the hopper, It spins for about 1-4 coins through then 3200 error.
With the 21 error or 3200 I have to ram clear to get play back. I tried replacing the SP chip with a SP1137 and this makes the machine light up but nothing in the led displays and unuseable. I have a new chips on the way, SS7721 and sp731 to eliminate any problem with the chips. I have tried a second, known working hopper with the same results. I applied bench power to this hopper and it spins and shoot out coins like it should, definitely not jammed.
Not a real good candidate for a test machine at this point!
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: sixcardmark on August 23, 2023, 02:11:34 PM
Change 2_0 to 2_1 for sound. There are no attract sounds on s+ that I know of.
21 is coin-in optics. Clean optics and check cables/pins.
3200 time out hopper- add more coins to hopper.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 23, 2023, 02:22:59 PM
- Not sure how to get the a menu to change 2_0 to 2_1 , the only thing I saw in the manual was changing dip switch 3 - There is no coin being inserted when the 21 error appears, if you just stand there watching the machine, it will happen. I will clean the optics and I have extra. - The hopper is full with coins fully populating the pinwheel (both hoppers)
Change 2_0 to 2_1 for sound. There are no attract sounds on s+ that I know of.
21 is coin-in optics. Clean optics and check cables/pins.
3200 time out hopper- add more coins to hopper.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on August 23, 2023, 03:09:25 PM
You would use the white test button to step through the menus. I believe spin reels moves you from menu to menu and the reset key changes the option. When its changed then you press the white button to move it to the next setting (which locks in the last setting) and close the door.
You cannot change the menu settings if you have any credits on the machine.
If your hopper has loads of coins but is coming up the 3200 again - look for a bent hopper knife.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: sixcardmark on August 23, 2023, 07:15:14 PM
- Not sure how to get the a menu to change 2_0 to 2_1 , the only thing I saw in the manual was changing dip switch 3 - There is no coin being inserted when the 21 error appears, if you just stand there watching the machine, it will happen. I will clean the optics and I have extra. - The hopper is full with coins fully populating the pinwheel (both hoppers)
It's probably the harness/wires/pins if it does it when not inserting a coin.
Both hoppers??? What do you mean??? The hopper needs a LOT of coins in it to spit them out correctly, it does not ever empty all coins out.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 23, 2023, 07:57:00 PM
By 'both hoppers' I mean the hopper that's in it and the known working hopper I swapped it with to test with. I am fully aware that there needs to be many coins in the hopper, I would think there is around 100-150 coins in there, should be plenty. I do disagree when you say a hopper will never empty out all the coins, I have seen many empty hoppers with a 3300 proudly displayed on the leds.
As far as harness, wires, pins, I would think that they would need something to move them to make them fail otherwise they would fail all the time. It could be but I was always a firm believer that if something is working correctly and then after a bit of time it fails is usually a component heating up. But this one puzzles me because it doesn't have much time in between working again.
But then again... if I was able to figure it out I wouldn't be here, huh?!
- Not sure how to get the a menu to change 2_0 to 2_1 , the only thing I saw in the manual was changing dip switch 3 - There is no coin being inserted when the 21 error appears, if you just stand there watching the machine, it will happen. I will clean the optics and I have extra. - The hopper is full with coins fully populating the pinwheel (both hoppers)
It's probably the harness/wires/pins if it does it when not inserting a coin.
Both hoppers??? What do you mean??? The hopper needs a LOT of coins in it to spit them out correctly, it does not ever empty all coins out.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: sixcardmark on August 23, 2023, 10:12:34 PM
OK I re-read post and now know what you meant by both hoppers. Sorry about that. Sounds like machine is maybe not seeing the hopper even being connected with that 3200 error. Check the hopper connections to machine. Make sure the cash-coin button is lit so it doesn't look for the hopper and you may not get that 3200 error. 3300 empty hopper error can happen when there is still coins in it, which is why you need a lot of coins kept in it. A lot of times the 21 will clear just by opening and closing the door from intermittent harness connection to coin-in optics from oxidized pin or pulled wire.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on August 24, 2023, 05:33:42 AM
Just to clarify, a [3200] usually means that the MPU is being asked to push out more amps to the motor's SSR. Why? Because there's some fault that making the pinwheel jammed...either by a stuck coin or faulty transmission. You could even have a bad relay (The red SSR box). When the motor is drawing amperage more than normally needed to turn the pinwheel, the MPU shoots out the [3200] error. Another reason also is that the hopper optics were blocked for more than 700ms. It's kind of rare though, because you've tried two different hoppers, I doubt that they're BOTH jammed. Perform some maintenance on the hopper that gave you the [3200] code.
The [3300] error, is a timed event of when no coins has passed thru the hopper optics for 8 seconds or more... a.k.a. "empty hopper".
From the repair manual...>>>
Problem: Hopper Won't Activate Before removing the processor board, check the following areas:
Check Cashout switch function in input test 22 Use outputs test 35 and 14 (if either test activates the hopper then either the SSR or the processor is defective) Check for loose or defective wires Test for 110VAC across J/P19-11&12 If the 110VAC is good, replace the Hopper SSR and test Use another hopper to determine if the motor seems bad
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 24, 2023, 08:02:44 AM
I will be going out there shortly to take another shot at this thing and try all the suggestions. Not sure what SSR is. (solid state resistor, regulator, relay?) By red ssr do you mean that box (relay?) on the side of the hopper plug as in the picture?
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: sixcardmark on August 24, 2023, 08:17:42 AM
What, there's a repair manual? :yes: That's cheating, LOL :24: I probably have one too, I have a big box of IGT paperwork here somewhere. :Scratch-Head:
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 24, 2023, 10:48:18 AM
Ok checked everything mentioned
Cashout switch works perfect in Test 22 mainboard battery is 3.632 vdc outputs test 35 and 14 does absolutely nothing Could not locate any loose or defective wires (except to the reel lamp) 114v across J/P19-11&12 I have been using two hoppers to test with.
I put a video on one of my youtube channels pertaining to this, as you will see in the video, there is no hopper jam, knife issue or anything. Link:
I removed your quotes of me. When quoting someone, you need to put the quote in first, and THEN post according to the quote - not the other way around or the entire post.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on August 24, 2023, 03:03:27 PM
Not sure what SSR is. (solid state resistor, regulator, relay?) By red ssr do you mean that box (relay?) on the side of the hopper plug as in the picture?
Yeah...your SSR in Reply#8 is black tho
I watched your video. Good job posting it. Many people don't have a clue how to post a short video. I recommend that you perform the hopper test...>>>
Open the door, press the white test button for a couple of seconds. Keep pressing the test button about 5 - 8 times until you see a number "3" in the [Coins Played] window. Now press the PLAY button on the button deck and watch the hopper spit out 10 coins into the tray. You will see it countdown to 10 on the reel glass display panel. If hitting that PLAY button doesn't start the 10-coin payout sequence, some SP chips require you to turn the jackpot reset key instead.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on August 24, 2023, 03:22:21 PM
SSR = Solid state relay. They handle higher current than a Triac or transistor. They don’t click (annoying sound) like a physical relay and as there are no mechanical parts they rarely wear out.
The way hoppers work on the S+ On a cash out/pay out They simply turn on the power and leave it on. This is done by the SSR (motor draws high current) Theoretically an infinite number of coins could then be cycled out of the hopper. When the selected number of coins pass the optics they shut off the power.
To prevent cheating by either blocking the optic (physical) or blinding it (light pen) they have a timer setup that if no coin passes the optic after a period of time you get a time out error 3200.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on August 24, 2023, 05:08:24 PM
Well I tried the hopper test, mine uses the key switch to activate. Once you activate it... it continues putting out coins until the hopper is empty. So I tried it with the other hopper and same exact thing, no counting on the display, just a steady stream of coins coming out. One thing that surprised me, it did not trigger a 3200 error with either one of them. I was able to play it afterward and decided to let it pay to coins, Got a cherry, cherry, 5xpay symbol and immediately got 3200 on the display.
If you think that it could be the SSR at the hopper plug, do you think my s+ slant tops would have this? Just curious, The Wild Cherry next to it does not have one, stupid older style. I can look tomorrow after my 3 coffees.
Aside from this, I wanted to say I appreciate all the help you guys have been giving on both of my problem children. These are the first S+'s I've had in a good while and I don't ever remember having problems like this.
Would the one (pic) from my M slot work to test with? -----------------
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on August 24, 2023, 05:58:12 PM
When doing the hopper test, it's only supposed to eject up to 10 coins then stop. If yours is NOT stopping, then the hopper optics are NOT seeing the coins going thu them. Follow the hopper optical wiring back to the beau connector.
The SSR...I don't think anything is wrong with the relay but yeah, the red one would work...it's just a different colored enclosure. But... there's absolutely no harm in trying as long as you get the wiring back on correctly. I'm warning you, one wire connected in the wrong location, and your machine is toast. Take a photo befoe disconnecting.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 04, 2023, 01:38:44 PM
Ok, so I traced any wiring I could from the hopper and other places and reassured with my continuity tester and could not find anything that is not right. In the meantime someone came to me looking for a coin in, bill in credit only machine and this one fits that bill.
So, I go ahead and replace the game chip (sp1271) with a SP1137 so that all input goes to credits. But when I do this, it disabled the bv. I run my set15 on it and it says it is already enabled, hmmm, nothing simple! So I disable it and re-enable it and nothing with the bv. I put in my sp1271 chip back in and bv works fine.
Question, my set15 chip is one I got about 20 years ago. Would I need a newer set chip to enable bv on the sp1137 or maybe that 1137 is not compatible with my SS7723 (or the new one I bought SS7721 (better payout))
I would like to get it to only to pay to credits. Ideas? Thanks
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 04, 2023, 05:23:07 PM
Could be the protocol setting on the dbv dip Switch. 21 vs 22.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 04, 2023, 05:28:15 PM
I heard from the person I got the sp1137 from and he said I need a set 086 chip for that. It will be here in two days and i will hope I get the results I am looking for. Thanks
Could be the protocol setting on the dbv dip Switch. 21 vs 22.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on September 04, 2023, 08:07:55 PM
You would have known that you need the SET086 to enable the DBV if you download the PSR sheet for SP1137 in the NLG File System. Those PSR sheets tell you eveything you need to know about the chips.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 10, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
Ok, so life used to be simple, stick in set15 chip, turn on bill validator and that was it. I am using this set086 chip, I go by the instructions and set bv to 1 and it does the same exact thing as when I use my set15, does not turn on the bv. So, I go back in to check the status of option 17 and it says '1' so I know it is not because I did not save it correctly. So I look down the sheet and see option20 is next so I figure what the heck, why not, I see there are 40 options for the country code but of course, when I hit the spin reels to scroll through them I only have options for 01-09... something fishy round here. Help... this machine has to go away, I can't afford to lose anymore hair!! -mike
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: RB on September 10, 2023, 11:18:19 AM
USA is 37. Set it to 7, turn the key and set the other one to 3. Other than that BV {1} enabled, and set denom accodingly. Be sure to finish cycling through the menu to save the settings.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Badbaud on September 10, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
When doing the hopper test, it's only supposed to eject up to 10 coins then stop. If yours is NOT stopping, then the hopper optics are NOT seeing the coins going thu them. Follow the hopper optical wiring back to the beau connector.
The SSR...I don't think anything is wrong with the relay but yeah, the red one would work...it's just a different colored enclosure. But... there's absolutely no harm in trying as long as you get the wiring back on correctly. I'm warning you, one wire connected in the wrong location, and your machine is toast. Take a photo befoe disconnecting.
The SSR contains 2 triacs in series. That way if one triac shorts out the other probably won't and there will be no hopper runaway.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 10, 2023, 02:40:16 PM
I went through as instructed and made sure to set the demonetization and country code, Thanks RB, I would never have to do each digit independently, I went ahead and did what I thought to save it. Put my 1137 chip back in, nothing changed, coins work fine, bv still not energized. I went ahead and put the set chip back in to verify the settings and they look great as in the video. (sorry about the crappy video, really hard to hold the phone, door lock and door open lever all at once. I'm sure it is something I am doing or not doing but not sure what.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: RB on September 10, 2023, 03:50:53 PM
<0> [15] is not the denom. It's token value. It means you would get 25 credits for one token the way it is set. Denom selection is <6>. I would clear it and start over.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 10, 2023, 04:25:30 PM
Thanks, that is the pdf I have been trying to decipher the info from. I can get back to it tomorrow afternoon but tell me, at this point, shouldn't the bv be working?( even though I have the credits set wrong) And how do you get to the different menus to change the denomination? If I am reading it correctly it would be menu 6 ? <6> Not sure how to get to it.
I will clear it tomorrow (getting pretty good at it) and hopefully get the settings correct. I had to get a new set chip, do I also need a newer ram clear chip?
<0> [15] is not the denom. It's token value. It means you would get 25 credits for one token the way it is set. Denom selection is <6>. I would clear it and start over.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: RB on September 10, 2023, 04:51:57 PM
Navigate the set chip menu with the test button. If you don't set a denom then the machine doesn't know how many credits to give you when a bill is inserted. It is mandatory. It could be a 5c denom or $5, etc. $20 will yield you the appropriate number of credits for the denom you set. Your ram clear chip should work fine.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Jim on September 11, 2023, 03:11:17 PM
since you have a SP 731, use it until you get the machine working as it should, then do what you want.
since you can use the test mode, get to the menu that starts with 5_0-1 or 2 then advance down to number 9, it will be either 1 or 0, if 1 then the bill unit is enabled. now, get out of that menu, ( at the end of that menu you will see the country code etc.) advance to where you see a number 6 in the coins played window, the number in the display is the denomination you have it set. the spin reels button should be lit, but when you press it , it SHOULD NOT ADVANCE THE NUMBER IN THE DISPLAY, if it does, then it is not set properly. this tells you with out a doubt your settings, period, no guessing.
Hope ths helps
Jim
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 11, 2023, 03:12:29 PM
ok, I am still at a loss. After clearing and pushing the test button with the set chip in, it seems to only be accessing the <0> Section items. I do not know how to get it to access the <6> section.
And if I'm understanding you correctly, I would think token value would be one from what you explained but the value starts at two. If anyone can help, I am going to be in front of the machine for the next few hours with the screen up thats in the picture as well as having this nlg window open or feel free to call me or text me at 757-500-3810 or post here and I'll see it pretty quickly. I am really looking to clear this up. Thanks
Navigate the set chip menu with the test button. If you don't set a denom then the machine doesn't know how many credits to give you when a bill is inserted. It is mandatory. It could be a 5c denom or $5, etc. $20 will yield you the appropriate number of credits for the denom you set. Your ram clear chip should work fine.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 11, 2023, 03:18:49 PM
Ok, Although I do have a 731 laying around, I have not tried that. So far the only SP Chip that I was able to actually enable the bv is a SP1271. I will try the 731 now.
since you have a SP 731, use it until you get the machine working as it should, then do what you want.
since you can use the test mode, get to the menu that starts with 5_0-1 or 2 then advance down to number 9, it will be either 1 or 0, if 1 then the bill unit is enabled. now, get out of that menu, ( at the end of that menu you will see the country code etc.) advance to where you see a number 6 in the coins played window, the number in the display is the denomination you have it set. the spin reels button should be lit, but when you press it , it SHOULD NOT ADVANCE THE NUMBER IN THE DISPLAY, if it does, then it is not set properly. this tells you with out a doubt your settings, period, no guessing.
Hope ths helps
Jim
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 11, 2023, 03:31:43 PM
Used set15 chip and 731 chip and the bv works fine. But still need it to work with the 1137 chip.
since you have a SP 731, use it until you get the machine working as it should, then do what you want.
since you can use the test mode, get to the menu that starts with 5_0-1 or 2 then advance down to number 9, it will be either 1 or 0, if 1 then the bill unit is enabled. now, get out of that menu, ( at the end of that menu you will see the country code etc.) advance to where you see a number 6 in the coins played window, the number in the display is the denomination you have it set. the spin reels button should be lit, but when you press it , it SHOULD NOT ADVANCE THE NUMBER IN THE DISPLAY, if it does, then it is not set properly. this tells you with out a doubt your settings, period, no guessing.
Hope ths helps
Jim
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 11, 2023, 04:17:18 PM
Going back to the 1137 Have you tried changing the bill protocol ? I know there are certain themes and game chips that use something other than the standard 23.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 11, 2023, 04:28:00 PM
Hmmm... this is the first I ever heard that, don't mind me. I am using SS7721, replacement for original SS7723 (changed for higher % payout) Not sure if that tells you anything but I am willing to try new settings!
Going back to the 1137 Have you tried changing the bill protocol ? I know there are certain themes and game chips that use something other than the standard 23.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 11, 2023, 04:31:40 PM
If the game uses IDO-022 interface, you need to turn #10 dipswitch on. The software on the chip supports both protocols and #10 is how you set it for either ID-022 or ID-023 protocol.
It won't hurt anything to flip the switch and see if it resolves the issue.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 11, 2023, 04:33:11 PM
Here is a link to the manual https://www.manualslib.com/manual/2418175/Jcm-Dbv-200.html (https://www.manualslib.com/manual/2418175/Jcm-Dbv-200.html)
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 11, 2023, 04:47:15 PM
Thanks but this has a mei in it and just like everything else in this machine it is giving me a terrible time getting it out even with the release pulled on top. I think maybe dinner is needed, will get back to it in about a hour.
Here is a link to the manual https://www.manualslib.com/manual/2418175/Jcm-Dbv-200.html (https://www.manualslib.com/manual/2418175/Jcm-Dbv-200.html)
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 11, 2023, 04:48:35 PM
Sorry know nada about mei.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on September 11, 2023, 10:14:31 PM
Your MEI DBV is a ZT1202 67mm...mine's a ZT102 US. These things are so old I don't know what country yours is made for? Yours is for 67mm sized paper currency...that's mili-metres...that's NOT American stuff.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 12, 2023, 09:16:04 AM
He did say it was working with the 731 ?? so I am very confused.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on September 12, 2023, 04:20:04 PM
You are correct Jay. He did say that in Reply #29. I missed that one.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 13, 2023, 12:53:26 PM
I only want to use the 1137 chip so that all coins or bills will go to credits and disable the cashout button. Unless someone else knows another way around it.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 13, 2023, 01:44:29 PM
With a 1231 or 731 you can set the default to Credit. With no credits the cash/credit button overrides this, and it will pay out by coins, and if you have credits then it dumps those credits to the hopper. The simple solution to this is to simply pull the wire off the bottom of the cash/credit switch. I actually move it to the contact that runs the light. I like lights. Normally the cash/credit button does not light up.
A few other things I do as well: 1. I also set the hopper limit to 9999 and credit limit to 9999 - This prevents the machine locking up by having too many credits on the machine. - with 731 the hopper and credit are the same value and with a 1271 they are separate. 2. I set the DBV to 1c - so while the machine still shows $1 or 0.25 this allows me to put on 100 credits for a $1 bill.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 13, 2023, 02:46:39 PM
Thanks but if I set the default to credit and unhook the cash out button, as soon as there is no credits in it and someone inserts a bill or plays for the 1st time and hits something won't it at that point default to the hopper therefore giving the 3200 error resulting in me having to ramclear the machine again?
With a 1231 or 731 you can set the default to Credit. With no credits the cash/credit button overrides this, and it will pay out by coins, and if you have credits then it dumps those credits to the hopper. The simple solution to this is to simply pull the wire off the bottom of the cash/credit switch. I actually move it to the contact that runs the light. I like lights. Normally the cash/credit button does not light up.
A few other things I do as well: 1. I also set the hopper limit to 9999 and credit limit to 9999 - This prevents the machine locking up by having too many credits on the machine. - with 731 the hopper and credit are the same value and with a 1271 they are separate. 2. I set the DBV to 1c - so while the machine still shows $1 or 0.25 this allows me to put on 100 credits for a $1 bill.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: jay on September 13, 2023, 03:55:49 PM
Nope. You set the default to credits and it stays that way until you hit the cash credit button. Since it’s disconnected you can’t change it back to coin.
You want to set the max credits to 9999 otherwise when you hit something - ie 600 coins. The machine goes into Hand pay and you need to use the reset key to clear the win.
Try it.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 13, 2023, 06:31:20 PM
Ok, that worked pretty great! The bv is working, sending credits to the machine as well as coins and payouts. FYI, I set it up with the SP2271 & SS7721 A couple things though... I could not figure out how to set the max credits and For some reason I lost my reel spin sound, I have the reel stop sound but not spin sound. Dip 3 is still on, I didn't hit it accidentally, the only thing I can figure is I messed sound up in the option settings somewhere.
The biggest problem has been eliminated so it is just the max credits and the reel spin sound. Thanks
Nope. You set the default to credits and it stays that way until you hit the cash credit button. Since it’s disconnected you can’t change it back to coin.
You want to set the max credits to 9999 otherwise when you hit something - ie 600 coins. The machine goes into Hand pay and you need to use the reset key to clear the win.
Try it.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: sixcardmark on September 13, 2023, 06:57:07 PM
Change 2_0 to 2_1 for sound. SP1271: Set both 7s to 9999 for max credit/hopper limits.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 16, 2023, 05:47:02 PM
Thank you everyone for all your help. The machine is doing exactly what I need it to do, take in coins and bills to credit and payout only to credit. The last thing to do was address light bulbs in the buttons but of course, it isn't the bulbs that are the problems. The only button that lights up is the one to the far right, max bet button I believe. Kinda hard to tell if their getting power because the door needs to be closed to test them. Anyway, that didn't bother me much so I ran about 30 bills thru it and was surprised to see it would accept a newer 20. Ran a few more through it only to have it start pulling in the bill about a inch then sending it back out. I guess the activity I put through the MEI bv was enough to wear the rubber off the right roller or band as shown in picture(can't tell which it is).
So, at this point, drop the price and see if the guy still wants it when he shows up tomorrow. I did a quick inet search for a repair kit for those and didnt see many options.
Anyway, thanks for all your help, is anyone has a idea as to where to look for the bulb problem let me know. The guy will be here at 1pm Sunday to see if he wants it.
Title: Re: S+ Multiple errors
Post by: mwade109 on September 17, 2023, 05:27:01 PM
He, this machine just never wants to work and will get it's own way. Customer picked it up after working great for a few days here, plays it for about a half hour and it gets it's original problem back, 3200 and that is with everything going to credits, not even a win on the spin it stopped on, so I have no idea why it would have attempted to access the hopper.
The machine wins, guy gets a refund tomorrow and the games goes where all my old games go to die, into storage unit and eventually parted out. Makes no sense other than that machine just never REALLY wanted to work.
Sorry, just venting.... have a great day!
Title: Solved
Post by: mwade109 on October 19, 2023, 02:51:47 PM
Well, I decided to try the motherboard from the S+ I have that only goes ding, ding and to my surprise it solved the hopper error on this one. That tells me with the other one it was not the motherboard and leads me to strongly believe its the power supply.
As for this one, works great. Only thing is the MEI ZT1202 needs the rollers or belts replaced. Anybody know anyone that can take care of this or someone that maybe 3d prints a blank to put on the front of the s+ and remove the bv?