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Author Topic: Bally 809-ZZN Full Restoration.  (Read 38629 times)

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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #360 on: November 22, 2022, 09:12:15 AM »
The circuit is complete, everything is at 50 Volts when #1 reel is set on cherries. The photo shows two wires, they are my test wires for the circuit, the hopper is spitting out nickels. The hopper is not resetting but that's not my goal here, it was to establish the circuit.  :yes:
Thanks to Wolftalk for my homework assignments.  :applause:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #361 on: November 22, 2022, 09:19:25 PM »
I finally got the slot machine to work, it pays out on the first reel cherries. That's a big accomplishment from a dead slot machine, bad wires, switches, crossed wires, burned out bulbs, dead sockets, hardened grease, coin assembly not working, burned plugs, wires burned, micro switches that failed, a who lot of enjoyment.  :24:

I did have a switch that was wrong.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #362 on: November 23, 2022, 08:58:44 AM »
Now the slot machine is functioning, it's time to work on the payouts. I am only getting the first cherry to payout which is a accomplishment in its self.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #363 on: November 23, 2022, 08:36:42 PM »
I checked out the delay relay, making sure it was functioning correctly.
As I have been progressing through the slot machine I am now checking out the reels to make sure the payouts are matching up. Since the reels were not correct when I serviced them I had to make sure the wins matched up with the circuits.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #364 on: November 24, 2022, 02:02:08 PM »
Working on the payouts, they are a bit screwed up. First, I need to check out the wiring in the reels making sure everything is correct.

The contacts really needed a better cleaning. I checked the wiring, plugs, everything and matched them up with the hopper wiring. One step closer, the hopper is paying out nickels every win, the amount is not correct, however from a dead machine to this is awesome.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2022, 10:58:41 PM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #365 on: November 26, 2022, 04:55:32 PM »
The next problem I am dealing with the payouts. So what I have done is order more hopper parts. Wolftalk said that I may have worn parts causing the problems, burned contact plate, etc. So I just picked up a bunch of parts to help me out repair the slot machine. It's not of a matter of getting it done, it's getting it done perminate, and not going back again and work on it later on.
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #366 on: December 01, 2022, 02:41:12 PM »
Kinda lost track on how many switches I've had to replaced in the slot machine. The push button for attendant switch is the latest one that died. All of the one's I replaced are old and crusty.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #367 on: December 02, 2022, 02:06:52 PM »
Been ferreting out more issues, this one is the handle. The coil has become weak, won't pull the blocker out of the way, all of the time.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #368 on: December 02, 2022, 04:57:07 PM »
if the handle release coil doesn't trip, the coil should be powered after the first coin is inserted.  Measure the voltage on the coil with the meter probes on the two coil lugs.  If you don't have 50VAC+, there's a cruddy connection in the circuit.

especially make sure the switch on the handle release relay with wires 83-1 and 52-1 is clean and adjusted well.

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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #369 on: December 05, 2022, 07:21:08 AM »
if the handle release coil doesn't trip, the coil should be powered after the first coin is inserted.  Measure the voltage on the coil with the meter probes on the two coil lugs.  If you don't have 50VAC+, there's a cruddy connection in the circuit.

especially make sure the switch on the handle release relay with wires 83-1 and 52-1 is clean and adjusted well.

Continuing the trouble shooting. Working on the hopper, just another beautiful day.  :yes:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #370 on: December 05, 2022, 04:58:00 PM »
Found the handle release problem. The switch was in need of adjusting, it was not making good contact. Looking at it was fine, however testing with the meter  proved it as the issue. Wolftalk had the answer.  :cool_thumb_up:
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 07:24:32 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #371 on: December 05, 2022, 05:02:29 PM »
Working on the hopper, it's just a turd. I have spent the weekend working on it. Call me crazy, but I really want the hopper to be 100% function, and trying to make it look good.

I'm dealing with the payout. Dealing with the win light. Dealing with dirty switches.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #372 on: December 06, 2022, 09:33:06 AM »
Now I am working on the hopper, the torsion spring is wound 2.5 times. I think the 2 extension springs are in the correct order for the unit.
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #373 on: December 06, 2022, 09:36:10 AM »
I'm working on the Delay relay unit. The switches weren't correct, issues with the wiring, parallel wiring redundant.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 09:53:15 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #374 on: December 06, 2022, 09:38:12 AM »
I'm working on the payout relay. The wiring was not correct, it was a rats nest.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #375 on: December 06, 2022, 09:43:15 AM »
The win light was not correct, it didn't have the correct switches, it was flickering.
Now I need to figure out why the win light goes on normally, and off when a win occurs, no more flickering.    :banghead:

Update: I made the mistake, I had the switch backwards.  :duh:

That's just nuts.
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Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #376 on: December 06, 2022, 10:00:31 AM »
Working on the hopper SWS switches. The white yellow wire is in the wiring diagram, however this factory Bally harness is actually brown yellow, go figure.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2022, 10:40:05 AM by David Walz »
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #377 on: December 06, 2022, 02:42:04 PM »
I'm  :Scratch-Head: on this one. The win light will not reset. I've changed out the reset paw, step up arm assembly and still no change.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #378 on: December 06, 2022, 03:13:15 PM »
On a side note, the hopper lever and diverter coil are working fine. I actually forgot about the assembly until that darn diverter coil started buzzing loudly and I really thought I broke the slot machine for good until figured it out.   :rotfl: :rotfl:
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: A Bally 809-ZZN restoration.
« Reply #379 on: December 06, 2022, 04:27:37 PM »
More hopper pictures, its getting much more organized, wiring is getting straighten out.
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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