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Reel 1 Tilt -Update
« on: September 16, 2022, 10:25:05 AM »
Hey Gang
Been lurking in the background the last couple of years.
Just received my first machine a S2000 Roundtop Triple Double Wild Cherry.
When you power it up it does the memory test, and then throws the Reel 1 Tilt error, reels never spin.
Nothing touching the reel.
Swapped reel positions several times, error always on reel 1 position no matter which reel is in there.
Have reseated reel harness on board, and have reseated MPU.
Vendor suspects bad MPU, wanted your input before I go to the trouble to ship the board to have it tested.

Thanks
Ron

Update 12/17/2022

Finally solved the issue, after swapping out everything one at a time, it turned out to be the Motherboard.  The 1270 MB has two fuse holders at the bottom of the board.  The lower one of the two was cracked, so the fuse was held in very loosely, barely even staying in the holder.  After swapping out the MB everything is great!

A big thumbs up to all who offered help.   :thank_you:   :propeller:  :applause:
« Last Edit: December 17, 2022, 01:56:13 PM by Tater »

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2022, 12:25:51 PM »
Inspect the reel harness thoroughly to make sure there's no broken wires. Also be sure you are not pushing a wire out of the connector and that the tabs on the connector are holding it in the reel tray properly.
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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2022, 12:32:15 PM »
What happens when you open and close the door? Does it clear the tilt and then run normal?

I have a machine that frequently has a reel 1 tilt at startup.  I just open and close the door to reset it, then it completes the bootup without any problem. I have never had a reel tilt on this machine during play. Instead of troubleshooting the problem, I just decided I can live with it.


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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2022, 12:40:52 PM »
What happens when you open and close the door? Does it clear the tilt and then run normal?

I have a machine that frequently has a reel 1 tilt at startup.  I just open and close the door to reset it, then it completes the bootup without any problem. I have never had a reel tilt on this machine during play. Instead of troubleshooting the problem, I just decided I can live with it.

That sounds like a SG chip issue. Older SG chips on an enhanced cpu usually do that sometimes more than once when booting.
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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2022, 12:55:44 PM »
RB,

You're right.  It's a 702 board and I'm running SG000378. The game is Top Dollar SB100512.

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2022, 01:39:11 PM »
RB,

You're right.  It's a 702 board and I'm running SG000378. The game is Top Dollar SB100512.

I assume you mean 1270 mpu. Try SG000577. Should remedy the problem. You will likely get a machine type mismatch after the swap. Just change it back to upright and scroll through the rest of the key chip menu to verify the other settings. Be sure you have a Version 11 chip.
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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2022, 02:05:34 PM »
Thanks for the input guys.

I did check the harness, sockets, and tabs all seem OK.

dailey, no it does not clear at all.

Mine is also a 1270 with SG000363.

It was working when shipped so I don't think that is the issue.

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2022, 02:27:32 PM »
Thanks for the input guys.

I did check the harness, sockets, and tabs all seem OK.

dailey, no it does not clear at all.

Mine is also a 1270 with SG000363.

It was working when shipped so I don't think that is the issue.
1270 board with 363s most definitely can cause reel tilts at boot up.

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2022, 02:30:52 PM »
Hi SCM

Yes, but as above are they not clearable?

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2022, 02:38:22 PM »
Yes, usually.  It just keeps getting worse with some games and you have to switch SGs

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2022, 02:54:25 PM »
Yes, usually.  It just keeps getting worse with some games and you have to switch SGs

Thanks, I have no problem getting new SGs, I just want to get the MPU shipped ASAP if necessary

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2022, 03:00:34 PM »
Also, gonna need IVC00224 and KEY00045

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2022, 03:15:07 PM »
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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2022, 04:06:17 PM »
Use SG000523 or 598 with that TDWC on a 1270.
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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2022, 11:16:07 AM »
Well I sent the MPU off to the Vendor yesterday.
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Will keep you posted.
Thanks all for the input.

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2022, 05:54:43 PM »
MPU is back.  They said tested as good.

Still kicking the Reel 1 Tilt error

Any More thoughts?

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2022, 06:22:00 AM »
MPU is back.  They said tested as good.

Still kicking the Reel 1 Tilt error

Any More thoughts?
One more time: Change to SG chips meant for a 1270 board.

Use SG000523 or 598 with that TDWC on a 1270.

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2022, 09:28:14 AM »
Yes, I PMd RB yesterday

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2022, 03:40:17 PM »
Hey Gang

I ordered the chips from Ron.

Just as a matter if discussion, if the Vendor tested the board with the same chips in it, wouldn't it have kicked the same errors for them?

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Re: Reel 1 Tilt
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2022, 02:13:17 PM »
H Gang

Still waiting for my SG chips to arrive, but I have a question.  How do you clear errors if the door optics have been removed?

A little research on my own....  they did the red and green wire mod to the cherry switch..... :banghead:

Still waiting on those chips.......
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