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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games => Topic started by: Tarryn on September 28, 2021, 07:25:25 AM
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Newbie here. I recently acquired a IGT Double Bonus Poker video machine. Model IA79CF, Manuf. date of January of 1993. Plugged it in and nothing no lights no monitor. Traced the 120 volt power cord inside the poker housing disconnected it checked the cord and had 120 volts plugged it back in closed the door and VOILA fired up played two .25 cent credits tried the bill acceptor and not working so I pressed the white button and up came a screen with a bunch of stuff. Being intimidated I unplugged it from the wall. Following day plug it back in and nothing. Checked the fuses all fuses are good rechecked the power cord it also has 120 volts to it. Unplugged the molex connectors from the mother board and re plugged those back in and still nothing. When I do unplug the game there is a white flash of light across the monitor and static on the back of my hand. Checked the p-1 and p-2 pins on the board and all looks good (nothing bent) Was wondering if anyone has thoughts on this. Thank you for your help. I will post pics later on today as I do not know what I have for pc boards. Maybe just replace the boards would get it working?
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With the white flash on the CRT when you 'unplug' the game you have power on the machine. There is a power on/off switch in the machine, you can use that to turn it on and off. You can plug the machine into an outlet strip and use its power switch if you want so you don't have to open and close the machine to turn power on/off.
Sounds to me the CRT is not displaying anything. Recap the monitor and it should bring it back to working. Check this link for the Ceronix 1492
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=31351.msg171185#msg171185 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=31351.msg171185#msg171185)
You should be able to play the machine even with the CRT not displaying the game. Try that and see what happens. You can also press the white test button for a couple seconds, you should hear a sound. If any of this works I would say your CRT needs repair. It played a couple games so everything else looks good. You may want to check the battery on the MPU board with the game chips on it, not the motherboard. If the voltage is below 3V, change that. You will need a set chip after doing that to re-enable the bill validator if the machine has one. If not, just hold the white test button in a couple seconds and do the setup that will display on the CRT, after you get it working.
I can supply the capacitors if you like or replace them for you. PM me if you like.
Edit - I hope you unplugged the machine when troubleshooting, from the sounds of it the power switch was on the entire time. If it was on when troubleshooting, you may have made things a bit worse. Hopefully all good.
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There is a power switch inside. While testing I would suggest you use that rather than plugging / unplugging however no harm in unplugging. Many of us use a power bar as the power switch is inside the machine.
The static on the back of your finger from the monitor is a good sign that the system is getting power, and the fact that it started up once is another good sign.
I would suspect that when you were reseating the power cord, you leaned the machine forward, back etc. Not to mention this new to you machine was just carted home.
Its likely that the MPU board is simply loose......
With the power off. Slide out MPU board and slide it back in. Turn on the power and see how it goes.
Regarding your Bill Validator
The first thing to check is that once the machine is up is the bill entry bezel lit up or not ??
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Unplugged the board and re inserted it to the mother board three times. Still nothing. Upon turning the game on i can hear the bill acceptor start up when I look into the bill acceptor I can see red lights that are lit up.
The coin real I can also hear turning and then stopping.
I have been trying to post pics but it wont allow me to says the file is to large 4 mb. per pic. :no:
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A power on will always cause the bill validator to grunt and groan, but that doesn't mean its active.
Basically the PE+ and S+ (Slot) use a coin comparitor to register a credit.
The coin could be a penny, dime, quarter, dollar, euro, sola, peso or a token - practically anything metallic.
As long as what is dropped in matches the sample in the comparitor a credit is registered.
The machine itself is clueless as to its denomination.
So when you put a $1 into the bill validator how many credits do you get for your buck ??
The SET chip is used to activate the bill validator and SET its denomination so when you SET it to be 25c then you get 4 credits for a $1.00
Some people leave their machine as quarters but SET the validator to be pennys so they can quickly add 1000 credits for a $10spot.
You can find the details of how to use a SET chip in Ricks FAQs found on the bottom right of the home page.
Another thing to note is that the bill validators on these machines may be out of date and not accept any of the new colored money - so testing with a older $1.00 is recommended.
You could also have a Canadian or European machine (long shot) and the bill validator is set for a foreign currency (long shot here but its possible)...
We can address validator issues this once your machine is up and running.
Per not being able to upload pics, take the PIC on your cell phone, then email it to yourself - this gives you the option to reduce the size of the picture, then upload those.
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The machine is .25. The bill validator would not accept my dollar bill.
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Is the screen on, ready to play ??
Is the Bill Bezil lit up ? does it pull in the bill and spit it out or just not acknowledge the bill.
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Here are some pics. No idea if this is a super board. Monitor is still not working.
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Super Board.
It has not a game and program chip.
Non super boards are usually brown, but that’s a generalization and not a guarantee.
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OK - Good info above but --
Tarryn,
Have you tried any of the info in my earlier post above - IE
You said 'fired up played two .25 cent credits', I will have to assume they were already on the machine screen and you did not try a coin in the coin drop. Try a quarter, see what it does.
Can you play a game with the monitor not displaying anything? If the monitor is the problem and the machine works for a couple games - it could actually play like normal if you put a coin in, press deal, press deal again. Problem is you won't get any sound (most likely, put possibly). You should get the button lights to work if the game is still operational. If the white test button was pressed and it is in the setup menu, I don't believe this will work. I don't have a machine any more or I would try it and tell what to expect. (others could chime in on this)
Have you checked the battery voltage?
Does the monitor still show signs of high voltage with power on? Place the back of your hand against the screen and if you feel static, the monitor is at least getting power.
The bill validator will need to be looked at after the game is working.
Hope this helps.
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So does this board only have one game on it? The battery voltage is 3.7 volts. When I played two credits there were 40+ credits on the machine. I played .25 by inserting one quarter play the game then another and played another hand. Now when I drop a quarter in all it does is drop straight through. When I turn the game off there is a white flash on the monitor I then ran the back of my hand over the screen and can feel static. None of the buttons are lighting up and upon pressing the test button does nothing at all. Is there a way to test the mother board pins to check for power and if so how do you do that I have absolutely nothing to go on besides what i'm being told here. Is it possible the transformer on the board went bad? Thanks again for all of the help.
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What numbers do the Game and Data chip have on them.
There are several multi-game chip sets and a lot of single game chip sets.
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You need to get the monitor/CRT screen working to be able to proceed from here. That, to me is the starting point. Without that, in my opinion, the other things are moot.
I have had many successes with the CRT repair and working by replacing the capacitors on the CRT board. You can purchase a used CRT, a new drop in LCD replacement, find a similar machine that has working CRT and purchase that to test in this machine. All of these are not inexpensive things to do, but are doable. You could even try to borrow a CRT from someone.
In my opinion, replacing the capacitors is the least expensive thing to do to try to see if the CRT can be repaired, relatively inexpensively - $20 to $40 or less. In your case, the CRT worked for 2 games - chances are very good the caps will bring it back to life and you can set up the machine and get it working.
If you would like to PM me I can explain more and even try to help you get the parts, help with repair remotely or help in any way you might need.
I hope this post does not come across as harsh.
You have 5 games on the superboard you can choose to play.
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The game you have there is by Best Bet Products (hence the BBP). I cannot read the game ROM numbers to see what exact game you have. Can you supply that info or take a good hi-res pic of the DATA and GAME roms.
The GAME rom is XP000043 and the DATA rom is X0021??P
Can you let us know the X0021??P number? Thanks!!
BrianT
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None of the buttons are lighting up and upon pressing the test button does nothing at all.
If the monitor was bad the game should still be playable in the blind like Tony suggested. The fact that you don't have any button lights lit and coins fall straight through are an indication the MPU isn't booting up. If it isn't the monitor would be on, but black. Do the lights on the candle blink? Have you checked the power supply fuses since this happened?