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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2018, 09:51:58 AM »
NLG member Stayouttadabunker is still active on NLG, you could try sending a pm to him to see if he still has the SP882 document. Some of us never throw away or delete anything. Here is his NLG profile page and it has some contact info:

Haha...Unfortunately I dug around and couldn't find an 882 PSR in my library.
Closest I had was an SP878 and SP922.
There's a lot missing really.

Another thing you could try is to sort of "reverse engineer" the SP882 chip you have by going through all the options one-by-one and comparing it to an SP882/SP922 PSR sheet to try and figure out what's different.  :sherlock:
I used to do this sort of stuff years ago learning everything I could about the ol' S+ chips.  :yes:
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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2018, 11:09:14 AM »
Here is SP922 in case it is helpful and you want to try using it as a guide for your SP882.
(it is a .doc file, I didn't see a pdf version of it)
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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2018, 06:49:33 PM »
Hey rokgpsman. Great job. Looks like the the psr for the sp1137 works for my machines. Turns out one was set up for euro style 2 credit. That was the one doing Montana style. Switched them both to vegas non-credit option and the one that has the validator enabled puts bills to credits and wins immediately cash out. Much more fun. Only takes the 3 coins max before a spin though. But everyone here at the house is happy with that. It seems they did something strange with the validator though. Our currency here is in thousands. We have a 1k,2k 5k and 10k bills. 1k is about 2 dollars. It won't take anything over 2k and give 80 credits for it. After checking in the options the machine is setup to 25 cents and USA region did the math and seems all they did was stick a chip in the validator so it will read the currency and set the 2k bill to trigger a 20 dollar bill in the program. If i got a eprom burner would looking at the programming help or it is what it is and I should be happy it works at all? We do have 25 coins here btw. Probably what they used. Thanks again for all your help.

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2018, 07:44:24 PM »
If one of the bill validators accepts all the bills you want it to but the other one does not it would seem that you could update the older one by cloning the eprom from the newer bill validator. This should work provided they are both the same model but I'm not too familiar with the WBA units. You mentioned one (or was it both) of them had a piggy-back board that allowed 2 chips to connect into one socket?

If your SP882 allows "tokenization" that might be something to look into. Then you could simply insert 1 coin and get many credits for it. If you set the machine to "non-credit" then I think all wins will get paid immediately from hopper, won't go to credits. And if you insert a bill it may pay it out of the hopper too. Can you set it for credit operation? That way when someone gets a winning spin they will get the win put to credits and can then play off the credits instead of having to insert money for each spin.

Glad to hear you are making good progress with the Double Black Tie machines. Can you set the credit limit higher to get the machine to accept bills larger than 2K? Do you think it is a limit problem in one of the machine's settings, or maybe the bills larger than 2k have been redesigned (look different than in years past) and the software in the WBA just doesn't recognize them? We have that problem here with older bill validators not working with the new US $100 bill.

What is the status of the Haywire and what are your plans for it? We probably should start a different discussion thread for it if you want to pursue any questions and help with it.
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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2018, 10:36:17 AM »
The bills here got updated slowly back in 2008. They created the new 50k and 20k bills first then redesigned the 10k then 5k then 2k finally ending with the 1k making it a polymer bill. The fact that the machine will take a 2k bill leads me to believe that it was in use to at least 2009 so it should read the 5 and 10k bills as well as they were changed before the 2k. The 2 validators with the 13ss heads on them will read the 2k bills ok after a couple of tries. Neither will read the 5 or 10k so far. But my examples were well used so I may try again. The validator with the 11ss head won't read any of the new bills. Yes they have a piggyback board with 2 EPROMs in it. I'll take some pics to share.


I tried the tokenization setting. I will have to wait for my set chip so I can change the amount of credits per coin. It's currently set at 4.


I set the credit limit to 500 just to see if the bigger bills would work but no dice. The bills don't get accepted. But I can now use a 2k bill and then another one right after it. So that's a plus. They are fun machines. Payout is ok. I can see what you were saying about maybe changing the odds. I'll do some digging on other reel chips here in the forum.


The haywire got put on the back burner till I can get parts here. But I definetly want it working also. I'll start a new thread when I get some pics and parts.

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2018, 02:56:30 PM »
You may also want to check the dipswitches on the head.

You can exclude certain denominations.
In the US there was a bad run (lots in circulation) of fake $50's that were validated.
For sometime the $50 was turned off.

It is a common perception that a $50 is bad luck. This stems from two sources.
The Dead mans Hand which is a famous picture of a person with four aces and a bullet through his head. There is a $50 on the table.
Ben *Bugsy* Siegel who opened the first Hotel/Casino *The Flamingo* on the strip was gunned down - accounts differ that he was either found dead with a $50 sticking out of his breast pocket or was placed in his mouth. Supposedly this was a message from Chicago to others who may have been Skimming (stealing) from the count.

So to cut to the chase .... while the fakes were in circulation - the public was told that the $50 was disabled because it was bad luck.

There also is a max credit setting so your 50K bills may exceed that limit. You will need to use your set chip.



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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2018, 06:44:04 PM »
Many thanks to you all for your help on this project. Special thanks to slots4home for providing me the parts I needed for the haywire too. Started a new thread for the haywire machine. I was trying to use the set chip to change the denomination on one of the double black tie machines. Set it and put the chip back and it boots to a 61. When I push and hold the self test, screen goes blank for a second and then I get a 65 1 error. When I hold the self test to clear that error the denomination is 0. Can't change it. Any ideas? Also something else has changed as well that makes the coin in go to the base and not the hopper. Can't figure out what else changed.

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2018, 06:52:17 PM »

61 should go to a 61-1
is the game chip plugged in the right way with the matching knotches ?


The 65 is a CMOS error.
I would press the white set button to go through all the settings until it resets, then turn the jackpot key once.
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Are you sure you didn't use a clear chip ? the loss of your credit settings sounds like a clear chip has been used.
Download Rons Simplified game settings sheet from the files area and this will walk you through changing the credit settings.

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2018, 07:12:09 PM »
I'm sure it's not the clear chip. It was the set chip. Gave me the option to choose the denomination. It was kinda strange that I would set the denom and then cycle thru again without a power off and the denom was zero again. Wondering if maybe the sp0882 doesn't support 50 cent denom. The other machine is set for 25. Or maybe I need another set chip?  It worked great on my sp0805 haywire.


I never get to 61 1. When the 61 error shows I hold the self test button and the screen flashes and then the 65 1 error shows up.


By the way what is the key switch on the mpu housing for?

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #29 on: November 11, 2018, 07:26:57 PM »

The key on the MPU housing is not a switch. Its a physical lock to keep the MPU tray in place.
The key switch I was referencing is on the right side of the S+
The 61 should only come up after a game change or a clear. To cavet that statement you only get a 61 after a game change if the game chip was changed to a different number.
This is why I think you may have used a clear chip or did something funny (ie chip backwards) to cause the game to forget its settings.


The 65 is a cmos error. It comes up when the format of the two CMOS chips don't match. One cmos is on the MPU board the other is on the fixed mother board.
If I had a 1271 and went back to a 731 I would get a 65 error. In reverse going to a 1271 from a 731 = Typically the 1271 is smart enough to recognize the old format and you don't get a 65 error.



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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2018, 04:47:58 AM »
On my machines all 3 have the key switch on the mpu housing. It has wire leads coming off it and going down to the motherboard.


I knew you were referring to the jackpot reset to clear the 61 error. Was just curious about the other key switch on the mpu housing.


I made sure I didn't put any chips in backwards. The chip I used worked on the sp805 haywire. Just not sure why the double black tie won't take a change. It does play though. So maybe I won't worry about it. Haven't tried the bill validator yet.


All the same this double black tie machine is the one I wanted a new game kit for so maybe it's just asking a little harder for the change now. Lol

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Re: Noobie looking for help on 3 igt s+
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2018, 12:33:51 PM »
Interesting - where on the mother board do the leads go ?
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