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more Game Maker issues,..
« on: November 29, 2021, 03:34:37 PM »
I recently acquired a Bally Alpha Game Maker V20/20 from an estate sale. It powers up, fans come on, lights illuminate, but thats about it. The top screen briefly displays "no signal" then goes to sleep, and the bottom/main screen just has the "no sync" message with the red, green, blue & white test bars floating about the screen. upon start up, the MPU/CPU emits a long beep followed by 2 short beeps. green LEDs everywhere. Ideas? PLEASE.....
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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2021, 04:01:58 PM »
I would look inside the machine and inspect each and every connector, including making sure the MPU is seated ALL the way in.
Check around the bottom for loose change (unless it never took coins) that may have lodged in places where it can create an unwanted short circuit.
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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2021, 04:22:08 PM »
Here's some pics... Was there something in particular you needed to see?

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2021, 04:34:12 PM »
I'm just trying to rule out things like connections. I've actually never worked on an AVP Alpha but hoping I can jump start this thread with some of the basics.
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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2021, 05:31:08 PM »
It's a Bally alpha not avp.  I see a touch screen connector that is not plugged into brainbox.

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2021, 06:25:04 PM »
the other end is connected to the top screen. i was curious about it too, but was told it didn't matter. plus, I didn't see a place to plug it in....

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2021, 06:42:51 PM »
Try reseating your video card. 

The upper touchscreen is not used, I'm surprised to see it cabled for one. 

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2021, 12:05:00 PM »
I pulled what I assume was the video card, the one the 2 screens plug into. No visible damage. inspected and reinstalled/seated. no change.

If it turns out to be a CPU issue, would this be something that SPIN can repair with their $95 flat rate?

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2021, 12:50:58 PM »
One long beep followed by two short beeps indicates a video problem on a lot of computers, so it was worth a shot.  Try removing it completely and hooking one of the monitors to the integrated video port and see if it will try to boot that way. 

I heard Spin is no longer repairing boards, but you can give them a call and ask.


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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2021, 01:18:27 PM »
I hope they are.... Just sent in a S2000 1270...arrived yesterday. The info and forms are still up on their site.

Is there an alternate plug in the CPU to connect a monitor?

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2021, 01:33:04 PM »
Good to know. 

Yes, there's a VGA connector on the MPU by the USB plugs.

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2021, 02:32:05 PM »
good news... Unplugged the screens from the Video/graphics card and plugged them in alternately into the single VGA plug on the front of the CPU. They both work!! THANKS TILT!! So, best case scenario, I dont need a new a new CPU. It went through the boot up process and loaded all the games. It settles on a screen that says "Call attendant Primary Touch Screen Device Error" Does this mean, at a minimum, Ill need a new graphics/video card? The CPU "appears" to do what its supposed to....
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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2021, 02:57:45 PM »
Good deal! Yes, look for a new video card for it and you should be in business.

Make sure the lower monitor touchscreen serial cable is plugged into the front of the CPU.

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2021, 03:33:01 PM »
OK plugged the lower touchscreen cable back in, and the error message disappeared. Now it just says "Call Attendant"

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2021, 03:54:47 PM »
They take several minutes to completely boot up.  Give it some time.

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2021, 05:01:14 PM »
Jacked around with settings and it appears everything works. Will have to clear it as I didn't enable the BV or Tito etc. but it looks good. Anyone know who might have a working Alpha V20/20 video card or whatever it's called...

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2021, 07:11:53 PM »
I may have one. I'll look around in my spare parts tomorrow evening and see.

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2021, 10:23:19 AM »
That would be awesome. Let me know if you need any info from me, model #, part #. if you do come across one let me know the $....

I hope its that simple....

Now to find a PDF of the Alpha Game Platform Setup and Operation chapter of the S9000 Operators Instruction Manual....

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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2021, 12:58:01 PM »
UPDATE on the Spin repairs. They no longer repair boards. Just got a call saying how sorry they were. Told them the instructions and printable forms are still up on their site. They will be removing it shortly. Well poop!! 💩
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Re: more Game Maker issues,..
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2021, 03:04:45 PM »
Yeah, that's a bummer.  Thanks for the confirmation though. 

Here's the video card I have, I bought it new for a spare never used it.  If it's what you need, how about $50 shipped priority mail (assuming a lower 48 shipping address)?

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