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Title: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 20, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
So I made a deal to get a Bally Alpha S9000 2x5x10x pay with progressive option.  He meet me with the machine (193 miles away) this morning and below is what I bought! He had it nicely bubble wrapped and a box of accessories, the topper light, keys, etc. He helped me load it from his car to mine, and he went through some details on the boot up and process etc. and gave me a CF Clear Card and the manual CD etc.  He even gave me a cheat sheet for routine setup items etc. Got it home, got it out of my SUV and got it in my basement.  Booted it up as he instructed and it's working AWESOME!!!  This machine is in GREAT condition!!! 

PS:  Thank Bob I love the machine!!!

Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 20, 2015, 03:47:59 PM
Congratulations, Alphas are awesome machines, now you need:  :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

1.  5 reel converstion parts.
2.  V20/20 conversion parts.
3.  game kits.
4.  game kits.
5.  Did I mention game kits...
6.  1 Ghz MPU box
7. Spare parts like ampiflier boards, backplanes, power supplies, mpu board
8.  Do your belly led lights have the ability to change colors via dipswitch, or are they the single color leds?

Did you know you can run V20 video titles on your topbox?

Or, you could just get "companion" Alphas like I did and have one of each type   :propeller: :propeller: :propeller:
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 20, 2015, 04:31:22 PM
WOW rickhunter thanks that is a lot to digest!!!!  Yes I want game kits, game kits, and did I mention game kits! But I don't really know where to find or get the games kits from.  I didn't know about the top running video game kits THAT IS AWESOME!

Thanks
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 20, 2015, 09:33:54 PM
Congratulations, Alphas are awesome machines, now you need:  :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot:

1.  5 reel converstion parts.
2.  V20/20 conversion parts.
3.  game kits.
4.  game kits.
5.  Did I mention game kits...
6.  1 Ghz MPU box
7. Spare parts like ampiflier boards, backplanes, power supplies, mpu board
8.  Do your belly led lights have the ability to change colors via dipswitch, or are they the single color leds?

Did you know you can run V20 video titles on your topbox?

Or, you could just get "companion" Alphas like I did and have one of each type   :propeller: :propeller: :propeller:


LMAO Rick... Don't forget the Transparent screen! hahahaha
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 21, 2015, 07:12:57 AM
WOW rickhunter thanks that is a lot to digest!!!!  Yes I want game kits, game kits, and did I mention game kits! But I don't really know where to find or get the games kits from.  I didn't know about the top running video game kits THAT IS AWESOME!

Thanks
# 8 yes they doo change!!! 

Not really sure where to find game kits.

Also I'm looking to do a RAM clear????  I want to reset the progressive, but not really knowing where this is done the only think I come up with is a setup game screen and it tells me the game is already configured....  I'm such a newb
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 21, 2015, 07:59:17 AM

With the machine off,remove the Game Card and the OS Card.Replace the OS Card with the Clear Card.
Turn the machine back on.
Watch for a message on the monitor ,use the test button to select an action.Select "Clear NVRAM and EEPROM"
Turn the Attendant key to execute the selection.
Wait for the message NVRAM Clear successful
                               EEPROM    "          "
Turn off the machine,remove the Clear Card and install the OS Card and the Game Card.
Power the machine back on and after about 15 minutes you Game will come up on the monitor.
Press the white button to get to the set up menu.
Before you do any of this I suggest you read all of the info on this web site.There are procedures for powering on and off etc.
There are manuals in the NLG File System.
Your first clear can be very frustrating
 http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/rickhunter2/media/MVI_2423_zpsf7217524.mp4.html (http://s1301.photobucket.com/user/rickhunter2/media/MVI_2423_zpsf7217524.mp4.html)
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 21, 2015, 09:32:30 AM
DF77 That is a great video... thanks.  Is there anything I can break that can't be fixed... such as something become corrupt that can't be re-done and that would require replacement?

update:  OK the clear seems to have went fine and now getting ready to go through the setup.  I took photos of each screen I could get to and now I have at least what I hope I'll need to set it up as it was and just change the progressive.  I do have the progressive sheet so I know what one to set (I hope!)
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 21, 2015, 10:00:20 AM
I am not aware of anything that you could harm permanently.
It can get very frustrating if you do not follow procedure when setting up the progressive.
On the right side of the monitor you will be able to see your progress or what needs to be done,
as in clock not set or denomination not set etc.
My first game change took me about 2 hours as I had to go back and do a clear and wait
another 15 mins to boot up.That was about a year ago .
I find it  much easier now because of members like Coolwavepics and Rickhunter making videos of
the set up procedure.
Someone on here will always have a fix if you get into a bind.
Good Luck!



Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 21, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
THANK YOU!  It went very smooth and I'm all done!  When I missed something the machine told me so and I went and configured what  had missed.  Now my progressive add just like my local that has this same machine!!!  ;)

Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 21, 2015, 10:47:06 AM
Congratulations,now you will be able to do game changes :applause:
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 22, 2015, 06:11:51 AM
Right games changes... Where to find them!  ')

Also is it possible to get the bill validator to printer a TITO that then can be re-inserted for credit vs always using "money"?  I saw something online when I was search this topic:

"FREE PLAY and TICKET ACCEPTANCE"
KIT AVAILABLE FOR SLOT MACHINES

Feature 1:   Slot machines can be converted to FREE PLAY. No dollar bills or coins needed. Just one push of a button will add credits to the slot machine to use for play.

Feature 2:   For a slot machine with a ticket printer, this same FREE PLAY processor board will allow the bill acceptor to accept the cash out tickets and add those credits to the slot machine.

Feature 3:   For a slot machine to accept a printed ticket the bill acceptor has to be active. We can set the bill acceptor to only  accept tickets if desired or both bills and tickets.

More than one machine? Add the FREE PLAY board to all your machines and use the cash out ticket from one machine to another.

All features can be set independently or used together.

The machine will always be capable of being converted back to it's original set up in just several minutes.
Cost without a bill acceptor installed (feature 1 only) - $50.00.
Cost with a bill acceptor installed - $100.00.
Cost with over the phone installation - $150.00.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 22, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
Try Bettor TITO.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4347.msg22840#msg22840 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=4347.msg22840#msg22840)
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 22, 2015, 11:08:22 AM

As far as I can tell this is the only Alpha 3 reel game kit on the market at this time.
The top glass wont fit,the reel glass doesn't have reel divider black out ?
Check the width of the reel strips.It may be for a CineReel
Cannot see the software #'s but if it would work in your machine it's worth the asking price.
If you are interested you could call them,they are very helpful.  http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=93&product_id=2634 (http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=93&product_id=2634)
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 22, 2015, 11:59:12 AM
That kit is for a cinereel. You can tell by the glass and the topper.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 22, 2015, 12:12:32 PM
I knew that you would know. :hail:
Will the strips and software work in an S9E ?
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: CVslots on February 22, 2015, 12:41:28 PM
I have this one. I dot have the software, but it would be easy to get from one of the other vendors...

http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/baalblwh5xga.html (http://www.centralvalleyslots.com/baalblwh5xga.html)
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 22, 2015, 02:08:04 PM
Good info thank everyone... question... I'm a Bally fan for sure and want to stay with their machines.  I'm also really more into mechanical reel type slots, not the video or the reels that are video.  My questions is this:  Would I be better off with a different slot vs the Alpha S9000 I have now for more options of game kits/software or is this unit have just as much available as others. 
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: DF777 on February 22, 2015, 02:42:06 PM
Alpha game kits are not as readily available in the 3 reel as they are in the 5 reel.
If you want to stick with the Bally brand then you may want to look at the S6000's
The IGT S+ & S2000 have the most available games.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 22, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
Alpha kits are there, they are just harder to locate.  You can still find a boatload of alpha S9000's in the casino's.  As they get replaced by alpha 2's you will see a bigger selection.  Part of the problem is that the international market snaps up these machines, so there's no incentive to part machines for kits.  There were also far more S2000's around, but even these you can see that kits are not as easy to come by as they were maybe 3 years ago.  I do have more S2000 kits than I do bally alpha kits, but I've only had my alphas for less than a year, and I probably have around 20 alpha reel kits, 15 of which are 5 reel games.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 23, 2015, 01:16:08 AM
I knew that you would know. :hail:
Will the strips and software work in an S9E ?


The software will work in any Alpha machine.. Cinereel or S9. I know for a fact that 5 reels for cinereels are wider than normal. 3 reels look wider as well. I guess you could trim the strips but that would be up to you.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 24, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
So just wondering if there is a way to disconnect the manual tally counters that are located inside the top door.  They are quite noisy and I'm not sure for my purpose they are doing anything.  I tried unhooking what I thought was the cable that made the tally but them the spin button would not work.  So I know now that will not work.

Thanks for any help.  Still trying to find the game kits but no luck yet.

The game kits are:
Kit # 112945 for the Black and White Double Jackpot w/Quick Hit Feature - Art form QD7-5007
Kit # 146105 for the 5 Times Pay 10 Times Pay w/Quick Hit Feature - Art form QDC-5005
Kit # 112755 for the Triple Blazing 7's Double Jackpot w/Quick Hit Feature - Art form QD7-5005
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: BiggerHammer on February 24, 2015, 05:58:29 PM
To bypass meters:

First Option-
1) Locate the white molex10-pin connector on the backplane that is plugged into the header labeled "COUNTERS"
2) TURN OFF THE MACHINE!
3) cut all of the wires going to the connector about 3" from the end of the connector.
4) On the top row of pins on the connector, with the connector still plugged in, locate the 2nd and 3rd wires (counting from left to right). The wires should be brown with a green stripe then brown with a blue stripe.
5) splice those two wires together. This will turn the connector into a jumper.
6) put some heat shrink over the remaining ends of the wires coming out of the connector to keep them from shorting on anything.
7) insert the connector back into it's socket and enjoy the silence. Don't worry about the cut wires on the meter side. You can unplug that harness from the meters at this point and remove the harness if desired.

Second Option-
 Locate a spare connector and make a jumper out of it. It should look like the one below. Note how the 2nd and 3rd pins on the top row are jumped.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 24, 2015, 06:13:10 PM
What Jurisdiction Chip is in the machine? All 3 of my Bally's don't have meters. I have an Arizona and a Florida chip and they do not require meters. Some jurisdiction chips REQUIRE meters.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 24, 2015, 06:22:30 PM
Thank BiggerHammer!

Coolwabepic:  It is Jurisdiction Part #: AVJURGENUSEN0-01
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 24, 2015, 06:32:06 PM
It should tell you what state or region. I don't know where that part number is from. Check your DIAG menu.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: FireballJackpot on February 24, 2015, 06:38:37 PM
Are the kits you're looking for, 4 Reel??  If so, I may have one of them in my "bally stuff" for sale in the NLG classifieds section....
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 24, 2015, 06:58:10 PM
coolwavepic:  Diag:  Just says Jurisdiction Name = en_US.utf8 and Locale says: Generic_USD_English

FireballJackpot:  Its a 3 reel with 1 Quick Hit symbol per reel.  If you get the quick hits scattered it pays the progressive, if you get them on the center pay line (that is the only pay line), it pays the top prize value
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 24, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
I think that's the one that does not have a jackpot limit.  Very nice jurisdiction chip to have.  Wish I had one...
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 24, 2015, 07:35:35 PM
What Jurisdiction Chip is in the machine? All 3 of my Bally's don't have meters. I have an Arizona and a Florida chip and they do not require meters. Some jurisdiction chips REQUIRE meters.

Coolwave, you probably have a jumper as described in the backplane.  Bally is not like BB1's where you can't put a jumper to disable meters.  I think you can put the jumper no matter what jurisdiction you have.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: BiggerHammer on February 24, 2015, 07:38:45 PM
What Jurisdiction Chip is in the machine? All 3 of my Bally's don't have meters. I have an Arizona and a Florida chip and they do not require meters. Some jurisdiction chips REQUIRE meters.

Even my machines that did not have meters still had the jumper connected at the "Counters" header on the backplane. Remove it and a "Meter Disconnect Error" will pop up. The bypass works on jurisdiction chips that require meters also. The generic juris has always worked fine for me running the jumper. I didn't even realize that these Alphas had physical meters until approximately my 6th machine. Someone had unplugged the meter harness so it was throwing the error message. I had to look at another machine to see what was going on, that's when I discovered the factory jumper.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 25, 2015, 09:07:56 PM
What Jurisdiction Chip is in the machine? All 3 of my Bally's don't have meters. I have an Arizona and a Florida chip and they do not require meters. Some jurisdiction chips REQUIRE meters.

Coolwave, you probably have a jumper as described in the backplane.  Bally is not like BB1's where you can't put a jumper to disable meters.  I think you can put the jumper no matter what jurisdiction you have.




When I got my 2nd 1gig MPU it had a Mississippi Jursd chip in it and would not play without the meters. I had to use the chip from the old board.
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: rickhunter on February 26, 2015, 08:01:08 AM
Do you have a jumper on the meter connector in the backplane?  Which jurisdictional chip are you using that does not require meters?
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: coolwavepic on February 26, 2015, 08:20:00 AM
Florida-Seminole and Arizona. Or are you looking for chip ID?
Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 26, 2015, 07:31:37 PM
thanks again for all the info...  I can't wait to find a source of some 3 reel quick hit type games.  I did order a Better TITO Deluxe late last night.  They really made it a great buying experience and they USPS over night shipped it to me so I'll have it tomorrow!!!  I'll let everyone know how it goes once I get it!

Title: Re: My newly aquired Alpa...
Post by: theWizardAKQ on February 27, 2015, 03:32:09 PM
Hey everyone!  I ordered a BettorTITO Delux from the good guys at "BettorSlots".  They got it to me the next day and helped me every step of the way when I had questions on installation and setup. Thanks you guys are awesome! Now my machine adds credits like magic!!!!  I emailed them this questions, but I'll throw it out here too.  So I noticed with my setup having no printer, and just a MARS BV Model 85 Rev #31, the BettorTITO adds the credits as "wins" to the machine.  This causes my machine and game accounting stats to get skewed.  I want to keep these stats as accurate as possible.  Do I need to change my set up?  Such as to add a ticket printer, and then use TITOS to add credits vs how I'm doing it now via the web interface to the BettorTITO device?

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