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Bally 809 5th coin payout issues
« on: November 21, 2022, 04:27:02 AM »
Day3 of the repairs continues. It has come a long ways with one item to fix. One coin in payouts are fine same for 2, 3 and 4 coin bets . When I bet 5 coins and get a win on the payline I get  a run away hopper that keeps paying.  Any thoughts

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Re: Bally 809 5th coin payout issues
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2022, 07:45:09 AM »
I would think to check the 5 th coin multiplier unit in the head.the boards develop bald spots or burn marks and that causes no connection or a bad connection which results in a bad payout situation, good luck, the wizard.

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Re: Bally 809 5th coin payout issues
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2022, 09:18:26 AM »
I would think to check the 5 th coin multiplier unit in the head.

i.e. the X5 unit ... the one that looks like a pinball machine score reel.

if it's not stepping as coins are ejected, either the coil is bad, there's a problem with wiper connections on the odds unit disc, or a wire is broken off.

if the X5 unit is stepping but the payout unit isn't, check the wipers/contact plate on the X5 unit itself.

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the idea behind the XY (X2-X5) units is none or one gets selected by the odds unit, and during payout the selected one steps for every coin ejected.  However, it only passes the pulse to the payout unit step-up coil every Y steps, resulting in multiplied payout.

the other ways bally did payout multiplication on some models was via cams with different number of lobes or by resetting the payout unit and paying again as many times as needed.


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Re: Bally 809 5th coin payout issues
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2023, 10:03:35 PM »
Progress made no longer a 5th line run away hopper.  Now line five is paying 2 times what it should pay.  Example a cherry pays 20 vs 10. 

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Re: Bally 809 5th coin payout issues
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2023, 11:28:33 PM »
the X5 unit is a 10 step unit, so it should connect wire 27-2 (blue/orange) to 14-3 (red/green) every 5 steps. 

if one of the two connections is no good, you'll get 10x pay instead of 5x pay.

got pictures of the contact plate for the X5 unit? 

 

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