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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => Bally Alpha Reel Games => Topic started by: drfreeze1739 on July 12, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
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Hello
im trying to help a friend work on his slot machine.
Im not sure what it is. Some one told me it is a bally alpha 9000 and some say a bally quick hit.
he brought it over to me to look at..
He said it worked before and it just quit working.
it turns on and the top lights up and the bottom lights up,
all the buttons are lite up.
the lcd stays black..
when i first power it up the lcd says VGA IN then it goes to no signal and black screen.
i have checked the power supplys up by the power switches and the voltage are 12v 5.4v 24.7v and all the green lights are lite up green.
i have pluged my computer lcd monitor in to it to check to see if it was bad and it comes up with the same thing.
I have checked all the plugs on the boards and unpluged them and repluged them back in and did the same with mpu board and power supplys.
Any one have any new things i can try???
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More pics of it.
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Hi Mark Can you get a picture on the LCD by hooking a laptop to it?? Do you have a spare set of power supplies you can use in it?? Lots of Alpha experts on here. Check batteries on MPU and backplane. The slot may need CLEARED and Setup again. I have found most problems with these slots go back to bad power supplies. For some reason they go out a lot on these. Caps on the slot power supply are really unrated voltage wise. Good luck Ted
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Hello ted
I dont have spare power supplys for this model.
The 2 round batterys on the MPU board both read 2.7v
Did not check the one on the backplane. i will check that also.
I will check into hooking up a laptop to it.
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I would change all three batteries. Also this is progressive and if you have not set one up before it may give you problems. There are several good videos on here on setting these up. Check to see if monitor is working OK first by hooking it to a laptop. Remember game CF card goes in the bottom slot on MPU and OS or CLEAR card go in the top slot. Remove the top OS card and put in the appropriate CLEAR card to see if it brings up a NVRAM clear screen. I am sure there are others on here with suggestions. I am still thinking the power supplies may be the problem.
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I thought power supplys also at first. But all the readings i get from testing them look good.. 24v 12v 5v
I hooked up my laptop to the lcd screen and it works. So i know the lcd is good.
no i have never worked on one of these before.. my first alpha machine.
if it needs cleared i will have to buy some clear cards because i dont have these.
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well i pulled the battery off the back plane and it reading 3.0v
i pulled the 2 off the mpu board and get 3.0v on both batterys.
now im thinking it might need to be cleared.. but would it tell you on the lcd monitor that it need to be cleared? ??? like other machines do... i dont know mabey im wrong.. never worked on these machines before..
or do you think one of the system or game cards went bad and wont let it boot up.....
on the power supply in the cage where the mpu is there is a power supply.. I cant check v on that because it has to be pluged in to the system to power.. Do you tihnk that power supply maybe out???
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Well if you pulled the batteries it will have to.be cleared and programed. What os card is it using?? You will need a clear card to match it
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is switch on on mpu?
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I just figured it out. It was the power supply in side where the Mpu is.. I pulled it out and plugged in a computer power supply. And it booted up through doss mode then it say finding game manager then the screen goes black...
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To work on these you do need to have the appropriate clear cf which is dictated by your os as prev. stated. Once you pull the batteries esp. backplane it has to be cleared. Being you do not have a dual vid. card it generates vid. from mpu. Not condeming mpu until you do a clear and set up. If you have no vid. once clear installed then you have a prob. Also status lights on mpu can help, green,red,combo of those,amber etc. do you hear any beeps?. Check the vid. cable also. Let us know. -B.
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If that is the case and you now have vid. the 256,512 and 1-gig non-expandable all use the "long" pwr supply inside the mpu, the 1-gig/2-gig expandable all use the shorter one. Prob cap or caps if you are handy you could figure it out or just get another one-your option, You still need a clear cf.
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It is a long one.. I will open up and check the caps and rebuild it... yes I do need a clear card now.
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there are 4 small caps that go bad on mpu power supply i'll try to find my notes we rebuilt 2 r 3 of them worse part is getting board out of mpu p/s to replace those caps also those p/s are cheap on ebay at times under 20 bucks
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ok.. thank for the info..
if they are thar cheep i might just buy a new one..
but just in case when you find info on it can you send it to me please..
here is a pic of the cards that is in the system
if any one has a clear card for sale for it let me know please..
thank you..
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there is only one on ebay fro 25.99 plus 16.00 shipping..
it is the short fat one,,
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Looks like a 320 clear for that os (old).
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I use a 312 clear with an 807 BIOS and 317 OS?? Docs attached.
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Any one looking at the post have a 320 Clear card for sale for my alpha slot machine.
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Ok, I may be mistaken. -Sorry as on the a-1 stuff I just use 336 stuff with a 335 clear. If it works it works. Without looking back on the stuff I at times forget, Thanks for correcting me.
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thanks for the info..
i will post in the want to buy section and see what i get.. thank you..
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ok i got the clear card..
thank you..
i cleard it and it said it cleared ..
but after it goes throught the dos boot up it goes back to a black screen,,
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more pics
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boot up pics
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After all this boot up in dos it goes to black screen and thats as far as it gets..
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Check to make sure the OS card is in the top slot and the game card is in the bottom slot.
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Yes. OS card is in the top. AND Game Card Is IN THE bottom. It won't boot up if the cards are in the other way .
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when it hangs on the black screen, if you turn the jackpot reset key, does the machine re-boot?
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no.. it dont do nothing.
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could the game card or the os card be bad?
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At this point I would try another MPU that is known to be working, or try the MPU on another cabinet if possible to see if the MPU is actually working right. I for one I'm stumped. What area are you located at, maybe someone lives close enough where the MPU could be tested locally.
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im in fullerton ca.
im stumped all so..
they can call me or text me
714*726-6834
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zoom in on this pic. it say something about game not found.
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It is rare, but there's a possibility that the game card got corrupt. Does he have another CF game card to try? If not, it would be inexpensive to just buy a video title for a Bally Video. Somewhere around $30 to $50 for almost any non-premium game. It's worth a try and if it works, he has a different game to play with and then he can look and see if someone can fix the card he has now. I can't do that one, I don't have that particular game, but maybe someone here has it can offer to fix the cf card.
Here are a title that will work with his setup.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bally-Ms-Clara-T-256MB-CF-Card-Casino-Slots-Machine-Game-F1CP59E2-8BC9-L06-1936-/400905940338?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d57db2d72 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bally-Ms-Clara-T-256MB-CF-Card-Casino-Slots-Machine-Game-F1CP59E2-8BC9-L06-1936-/400905940338?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5d57db2d72)
You could probably offer $35 to $40 and the seller will take it. It has been there for a while.
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Rick If you noticed in his screen shots it says it cannot find game video.cfg?? You may be right on the corrupt game card. I have seen with my limited work on the Alphas game cards go bad if placed in the wrong slot on the MPU. Your suggestion to try another game card is a good starting point. He may also have a bad OS card. That's where I would start on this. Replace both the game and OS card. What game is being used in this slot?? TJ
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i dont have any of these game and os cards.
will these work that i found on ebay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLY-DOUBLE-DRAGON-2-WAY-FRENZY-AVGDDF701600-00-ALPHA-O-S-64MB-SET-2-/131417069714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e99115892 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/BALLY-DOUBLE-DRAGON-2-WAY-FRENZY-AVGDDF701600-00-ALPHA-O-S-64MB-SET-2-/131417069714?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e99115892)
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Mark PM me on this. I can set you up with a couple cards to test this with. What game is in the slot now. Ted
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sent you a PM ON THIS.. here it is also
the game thats in it now .
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[/size]this is what it shows on the card below.[/size]AVGGTMS00100-00GOLDEN TIMES0E808db216fa16248b35ac84adde9932256mb l05-3461
the OS CARD SHOWS THIS BELOW.ALPHA OS 317-2AVOS00000317-02 EC0CBALLY 64MB SYSTEM
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the guy im working on this for brought me a 64mb game card and a 128mb OS card.
I tryed them both and it dose the same thing..
mabey they are the wrong cards i dont know
now im thinking it could be the MPU board ...
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YOu have to run 317 OS card with the 807 BIOS chip in this. Other cards won't work. I still think the game card is bogus. Try the new game card with the 317 OS card. Ted
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thank you for all your help...
i got it up and working now.
i had to replace the MPU board and now it working..
i have one more thing..
i want to use the ticket printer for cash out,,,, How di i set this back up.
i have tryed many times now and clear and reset up many time... i just cant figure it out..
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What type of printer is in it??
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Im not sure. Dont see any model number or name on it,
here are a few pics of it.
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In the set up menu.
i select seiko PSA-66T
I can do a test print after i save it and it works on a test print.
but im having trouble in the settings to make it print when i hit cash out.
I have done diffrent setting and cant seem to get it to work.
when i hit cash out it plays it tune and i have to turn jp key to clear it.
Please help on these settings.
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In the SAS validation, you need to select "Standard" the other option is "System". If you do not have the option standard, then you SJUR chip does not support this function.
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it only has system and enhanced mode in the SAS.
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Hi
its :nlg-logo: menbers send long time ago :soapbox_3:
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it only has system and enhanced mode in the SAS.
What's your jurisdictional chip?
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tHANK YOU KINDGAMING..
BUT IN MY SAS SETTING IT ONLY GIVES ME THESE OPTIONS.
it only has system and enhanced mode in the SAS.
Hi
its :nlg-logo: menbers send long time ago :soapbox_3:
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Hello rick
i looked in the info on the slot machine and it showed navada
it only has system and enhanced mode in the SAS.
What's your jurisdictional chip?
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its all up and working with out ticket printer for now..\
i will just leave it like this for now,,
thank you all for your help..
you all been a great help on this...
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You will need a California Tribal Jurisdictional chip in order for the standard validation setting to show up. Also Florida Tribal works. There are probably others, but I forget off the top of my head. The chips are inexpensive (under $10) most of the time.
You could also install a TITO board in the machine and it will let you print out tickets no matter what jurisdiction you have, and you will be able to put the ticket back into the machine for it's value. Most of us here use the machines that way, so we don't have to use real money for the machines. You can use the same ticket over and over, but most just print a whole bunch and just have a stack handy to use.