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IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« on: February 07, 2022, 12:00:06 PM »
I just picked up a slant top 50cent Double Double Bonus Poker with monitor (Ceronix 1493) problems.  Monitor comes up reasonably bright white with a little flickering, but does take a while to warm up to that.  Don't know if it is a problem with the signal from MPU or bad monitor.  Before I spend the bug bucks, I need to make sure it is the monitor as the problem.  Fuses and battery ok, MPU looks clean. when powering up, bill changer cycles and lights turn, but not game buttons.  What is the next step in diagnosis?  Where can I run serial number to determine model?

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2022, 01:52:23 PM »
Similar to your S+ there is a white self test button.
It should take you through a series of screens - provided there are no credits on the machine.
One of the screens has button tests on it, another color tests.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2022, 01:57:07 PM »
that was one of the first things I tried, no response in lights, buttons, changer, or monitor when I pressed it.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2022, 02:20:08 PM »
Breakthrough!  Just went back and redid self test (pulled button up and then depressed) and got this error message (in 3 fuzzy colors)  "DOOR OPEN, CALL ATTENDANT, CMOS DATA".  Any Clues?

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2022, 03:16:26 PM »
WOW problem solved!  Previous owner replaced battery and did not reset.  I followed this 5 year old thread and it worked!  Not all issues solved, but getting closer.

http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=14484.msg77615#msg77615

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2022, 04:56:48 PM »
Congrats  :applause:.  Glad you were able to get it working and thanks for the update.  The CMOS error message is normally caused by the battery getting low or after it's been replaced.  You may need a SET chip to set the denomination and enable the bill validator if you have problems with it.


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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2022, 05:01:45 PM »
Good job.... now you need to find a new monitor or get this one reconditioned.
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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2022, 06:21:58 PM »
You said your monitor is 1493.

If you can replace the capacitors, that should get it working.

Here is a link to repairs/caps I put up, it's for the 1492 but will be close. I have caps and do the cap replacement. PM me if you like.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2022, 07:52:05 AM »
The monitor really isn't that bad yet. 

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2022, 07:57:59 AM »
2 ?'s
How do I identify this is a PE of PE PLUS?

Where can I find the correct chip?

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2022, 08:22:21 AM »
2 ?'s
How do I identify this is a PE of PE PLUS?

Where can I find the correct chip?
If it has a BV it is a PE+

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2022, 08:44:30 AM »
If its a PE+ your next question (should be) does it have a superboard ?

You can pull your MPU and post a picture - also if it has both a program and data chip its a superboard.
Superboards are green, most of the non-superboards are brown (but thats a generalization)

Superboards support more complex games like duces wild and can have a multi-game chip set and run all the games from non superboard as well.

Have you found Ricks FAQ on the main page - it has a list of all of the S+ and PE+ games you can morf your machines into.
With the S+ you need glass, reelstrips and chips, with the PE+ you only need the chips as everything is on screen.
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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2022, 03:50:13 PM »
I am assuming a BV is bill validator, yes.
My objective is to reconfigure this with Multi games - Jacks or Better (8/6 or 9/5), Double up capability, Black Jack, and whatever else can come with this combination.  If I need a superboard to achieve this, I will have to source it.  I will check out Ricks FAQ's.  I still have an issue with 4 of 5 hold/cancel buttons not responding (left one is only one working).  In addition, I haven't been able to get rid of door open message wvwn with door secure. 

In what order should I resolve these issues?  Do I go for the new board first, or fix the smaller issues first?  Do I need to get a reset chip?

I am having a ball redoing this machine!  Obviously, I need serious experienced advisors to help me.  THX

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2022, 04:03:00 PM »
Well the good news is you have a superboard, so you just need the multi-game software for it.  In the photo the transformer is disconnected from the MPU board, why is that?


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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2022, 04:32:04 PM »
Generally speaking the buttons all share a common ground (daisy chained) and when 4 out of 5 don't work its usually a bad connection on the ground.

There is a self test screen for the buttons, just push the white button until you get there.
You can test the buttons - if they don't work pull the wires off and short them. This will tell you if its the button (mechanical).
You can also run a jumper to the ground on the working button and short to that and see if the connection works.
Some times you find buttons do work but the bulb is out or that they are just sticky (usually stuck in) due to too much Rum and Coke being used to "loosen" the machine.

Door open - might be door optics or you didn't close the door. Just a FYI - they are the same as the ones used for the S+ so you can borrow them to test if needed.
It could be that the cash can door is open - usually the locks are removed from the cash can ... sometimes the door is not tightly closed or doesn't stay that way.
I use a small strip of electrical tape to keep it closed.

Machine won't play until the message changes to Door Closed.

You should get both a Set Chip and Clear Chip. The Set Chip is used for enabling the bill validator and setting the denomination. The Clear brings the machine down to factory settings - clear chips are use very rarely and even more rarely on the PE+ than the S+  When you order the multi-game chip set order these two as well - but for now I would not start changing anything until your button and door issue is resolved.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2022, 07:05:52 AM »
In the photo, the disconnected transformer was the reason I got the machine for $35.  The guy I bought it from replaced the lithium battery and couldn't get it running again.  As soon as I say that, I started bringing it back to life and got the monitor running.  I still need to get rid of "door open" message and 4 of 5 hold buttons working.  Then i'll get validator working and see it I can get some new game chips.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2022, 07:24:55 AM »
Oh ok, well you obviously have it connected now or it wouldn't boot at all. 

I've never owned a slant top PE#, but I believe there's optics for the top door and a cherry switch for the front door.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2022, 08:01:17 AM »
Working on door closed first.  Cash door is secure, I had opened the lower door to get the MPU out, and didn't close the door properly to get the drop pin down enough to engage.  Fixed.  now on to buttons - you guys are good coaches!

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2022, 10:12:19 AM »
Hold Buttons - no luck yet.  1st button works (far left) and others do not.  I have compared switch wiring to other posts of "working" machines and think switch wiring is correct.  Have read other threads but that hasn't helped.  Voltage on middle wire of all switches is about 8.7 - 8.8.
What am I missing?  THX in advance.

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Re: IGT PE (or PE+) Poker machine video/problems
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2022, 10:29:14 AM »
Here's the wiring diagram for it along with the color code chart.  That should make it easier to track down the problem. 


 

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