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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: br549autosales on April 26, 2014, 02:56:28 PM
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Just picked up a S+ Top Dollar and a Vision Pinball. In the Top Dollar I am getting this code on the display. Can someone tell me what it means please?
Thanks,
David
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Ha, I knew either you or me would get them!. I just sent you a text.
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Got it working, it was just the common problem with the burnt pin connector on the bottom rear of the machine. One other question, where is the volume control on this machine? I could not find one on the main board at the top like most S+ machines.
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If it's a 10mhz board then volume control is in the programming. I believe the top box MPU has it's own also. I can't rememberwhere in the programming volume is changed though :fryingpan:
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There must be one in the top box somewhere because I hit the Top Dollar bonus and did not get any sounds in the bonus game.
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I believe I have a 16 mhz board in this machine since there is not a volume pot nor are there any dip switches. I looked for a self test button inside the game but I can't find it. I believe I will have to change the volume in the menu mode, but without the self test button I am stuck. I did see a pot in the top box that is labeled sensitivity, is that for the top box volume?
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I found a volume pot in the tp box, it was behind a power supply that I had to move out of the way to gain access. I turned it up and played the machine again. Not only did it not change the volume during reel spins and wins, I also got a Top Dollar bonus and there was still no sound at all during the bonus round.
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Well now I have found the self test switch, it was on the backside of the on/off switch housing. I can get into menu mode now but how do I get to the part where I can change the reel spin and roll up sounds?
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Well David, you're doing better than us with your Top Dollar.... :applause: :applause: :applause:
We've got one that has no top box sound and I'm about to :banghead: :banghead: ....I was hopeful when I read your post just now! Glad you got yours working though!
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Bonus sound on this model comes from the top box module. He has roll up -reg. s+ sound on normal game play. I would be pulling the module out and inspecting. From my memory as I had two of these exact ones a long time ago There is not a lot you can do with the module. The modules are kinda hard to find these days.
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I found another volume pot in the top box and turned it up as well but still no sound during the Top Dollar bonus round. I zeroed out the credits on the machine and tried again to get into the menu settings by pressing the self test switch but could not get to the 2-0 or 2-1 section where I believe you increase the volume 0f 1-10. Can someone tell me how to navigate through the menu to change the main game sounds? Any suggestions to what else I can do to get the the bonus round sounds?
Thanks,
David
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I found another volume pot in the top box and turned it up as well but still no sound during the Top Dollar bonus round. I zeroed out the credits on the machine and tried again to get into the menu settings by pressing the self test switch but could not get to the 2-0 or 2-1 section where I believe you increase the volume 0f 1-10. Can someone tell me how to navigate through the menu to change the main game sounds? Any suggestions to what else I can do to get the the bonus round sounds?
Thanks,
David
I have the full Barcrest menu options somewhere.., I'll look..
When I had my Little Devil and Jewel in the Crown, I was able to change the bonus sounds/tunes to like 4-5 different options.
Dale would know, I'll shoot him a text. - I'll look for the info after din.
Harvs
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I looked in the old site and it was an answer I got back in '10 when I had a similar issue. This was from CP
And the topic also stated you must have 0 credits on the machine.
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OK.... finally a subject I can be of some assistance with..... Some of you guys are so advanced that I don't even know what you're even talking about ( that's a compliment ). To change the Bonus round volume.......Flick the jackpot reset key until you get a 2-0 ... hit the white reset button several times until you get to 58. Hit the SPIN REELS button from 1 ( lowest ) to 5 ( highest) volume. After choosing a volume; hit the white reset button until all displays are blank and then close the door..... Hope this helps. Bill
It also talked about the top box having separate speakers from the bottom. I don't have an S+ anymore and haven't for a few years so any advice is from memory, sorry
Here's a link to my old topic
http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=printpage;topic=6094.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?action=printpage;topic=6094.0)
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Here's a sound card if someone needs it and yes, it comes out of the UK, about the only place you can get MPU4 and MPU5 stuff anymore
http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Barcrest-MPU4-fruit-machine-program-sound-card-board-/261459438530? (http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Barcrest-MPU4-fruit-machine-program-sound-card-board-/261459438530?)
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Thanks cowboy, I just tried that and can't seem get to the 2-0 part. What window/displays will the 2-0 be in? Do I open the door and press the self test switch or turn the JP key in order to get to the 2-0 starting point? I have tried it both ways and still am not getting a 2-0 in any of the displays.
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Open the door and push the self test button to 2-0 or 2-1 whatever you are set at. turn the JP key until you hit 58. It will be numbered 0-10, with 0 being off. 10 will be the loudest. Adjust with the spin button. Make sure you have no credits on the machine and your coin tray is snug in the molex. It sounds as if you found the volume control in the White Game Frame on the bottom. It is very hard to adjust the sound but can be done with a tiny screw driver bent in a 90 degree angle. If this doesn't work there is one more place to increase the sound that is on setting 23 accessed by pushing the diagnostic button.
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There is no molex plug for the tray to fit into, like the ones on a S2000. As far as setting 23, is that also in the menu settngs from the self test button on the main game or are you talking about the self test button in the top box? Also, what is the sensitivity pot used for in the top box?
Thanks,
David
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If I'm not mistaken your MPU in the top box is what he's referring to. Can you post a couple pictures of the inside of your top box for us. I would suspect whether it's an MPU4 or MPU5 might make a difference
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MPU4, here are some pics:
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Doesn't your tray have a speaker in it? It is very similar to the S2000 and should have a molex to drop into. It should be in just about the same place as the s2000. That's where you get sound from on the Barcrest as there are no other speakers anywhere else.
Mine was an MPU4 and has the white game frame that plugs into the MPU on top.
There is another pot in that white box on the very bottom right hand side.
You access the 23 by pushing the diagnostic button, it will flash between the 2 and the 3.
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It does not have a speaker tray but I do have a few spare trays, still there is no molex plug at the bottom of the cabinet that it can plug into though. It does have the small bracket for the molex plug just like a S2000.
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That may be your problem, missing the two wire molex in the bracket and the correct coin tray with speaker and speaker wire harness.
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This plug is just two wire like s-2000 -can't remember. You did say earlier you have normal sound just no bonus sound. I don't think it was a 4-wire pin on bottom bowl/speaker tray. I looked at the fruit boards earlier, they are always on there, If you had a issue in sound board you could look into that-But in the uk. Not sure yet if this is a componet issue yet, If it is we could probabably repair it-would be a resistor/cap issue I would think.
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Sorry Dale, We posted at same time. He could just try one out of another if that were the case I would think.--
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David, If you do not see the connector in the bracket look for the wiring shoved in the back, the molex's get dicked up and will not mate at times-(see this a lot). Still not sure if this is it however.
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I will look inside of the machine to see if i can find the speaker wires. Does anyone know that if during the bonus round if you get the same type sounds as the S2000 version where is says 1st offer, final offer, etc?
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Yes you do but they are not the same, simular. (on top box sounds).
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Half way there! :applause: It was the wiring harness and speaker in the tray. I found the red and black speaker wires tie strapped inside the cabinet, put two new ends on the wires and put them on the tray speaker and now I have bonus game sounds, thanks guys for pointing that out. I dd not know a S+ machine could have sounds coming from a speaker tray, too bad the main game sounds-spins and rollups don't come through the same speaker. Now to try to figure the menu settings to increase the main game sounds. Karma to you guys, thanks for the help. :hail:
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Since I can't access the menu to increase my game sounds, can I just replace the 16mhz board with a regular S+ board that has the blue volume control on top or does it have to be a 16mhz board since it is a Barcrest title?
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You need a 16meg board for Barcrest. What SP do you have? Can't you access the menu by pushing the DIAGNOSTIC BUTTON until you get a 2-0 or 2-1 ? No credits of course
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I will check the SP and report back. And no, I never get to a 2-0 or 2-1. I am pressing the self test button behind the on/off toggle switch inside the main cabinet, do I need to be pressing the test switch in the top box instead?
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you've got the right button. Are there zero credits on the machine?
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Correct, there are no credits on the machine
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It has a SP1024 in it
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That's a type 33 SP. I used SP985 and SP1113 with no problem. I think Roz is having the same problem with the same SP you have.....um , I wonder.
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I don't have either one if those SP chips, would a 1271 work or perhaps another?
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No you need a Type 33 SP.
Something definitely odd not being able to get in the menu....
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WHEW!!!! Here I thought it was just me!!!! I'm running an SP1100..I know, WTF is that? Well, I don't really know, since I don't have any documents on it (even if I had the documents it really wouldn't solve anything, well, with me, maybe for you guys it would!).
I'm open (not to be take. out of context, sickos) to almost anything at this point. I told you all I would go back and mess with the stupid machine, but I really don't have anything I HAVEN'T tried yet...but I will try it all again, just for lab purposes. :rotfl:
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Roz, it appears that we both need the SP chips that dale suggested. My question is why would the wrong SP chip be in either one of our machines?
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That's a type 33 SP. I used SP985 and SP1113 with no problem. I think Roz is having the same problem with the same SP you have.....um , I wonder.
I looked up SP1024 and it shows to be a type 33 for Top Dollar, so I must be doing something wrong. When I get home this evening I will try it again and this time I will mark down and report what I get in the displays as each time I press the self test switch and possibly that may lead to what I am not doing right.
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I purchased an SP985 chip from another member here and installed it today. I was able to get to 2-0 by pressing the self test switch behind the on/off toggle switch on the right side of the machine. When I got to 2-0 I turned the JP reset key until I got to 58, I was able to press the spin reels button and it went 1-10 on the settings, so I set it to 5 and closed the door and played a game, but the sounds are at the same volume they have always been, probably loudness of 2 or 3 in my opinion. Is there something else I may be missing or could try?
Thanks,
David
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Try this, when you hit the Bonus mode open your door and take out the top glass VERY CAREFULLY ( because of the take and try again buttons wiring may rip off ). close the door and try to adjust the sound pot on the bottom right hand side of the white game frame after it goes back into game mode. You need to have three hands but you may find out which way the pot needs to be turned to get sound, a very small screwdriver bent 90* works great.
BTW, when there are no credits on the machine and it sits idle does the attract mode work? Both sound and lights?
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I have my bonus round sounds tuned up from the volume control on the top box. I'm just not getting any louder on reel spins, and winning pays. I am not getting any attract sounds or lights when there are no credits on the machine and it's sitting idle either
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The attract mode is 23, we can do that next. No credits on machine push the white button to 2-0 or 2-1, then jackpot key to 3-X, Adjust the volume (X) with your spin button from 1 to 9 with 1 being the loudest. No credits on machine.
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Ok, what you just told me to do worked, I set the sounds at 1. Now it won't take coins (dollar size tokens) now will the bill acceptor light come on or take any bills. I tested the sounds by pressing the small white button in the coin mech area. Is there a way to enable the bill acceptor in the menu mose or because I changed the SP chip will I have to re set the bill acceptor?
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You need a set chip. A Set015 will work just fine. You exchange the GAME chip. You should get a 0 in the coins played, then press the white test button until you get 9-0 change the 0 to 1 with spin button. Press the spin button until you get a 6 in the coins played then press the spin button for the correct denomination.. Press the white test button again until you get a 0 in the coins played. Replace the set chip with the SP985. You will get 61, hold white button till 61-1, close door and turn jackpot key, should be ready. You will have to reset some stuff up in your menu, I can help with that also.
Dale
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Ok, I have a set 15 I believe. I will do that tomorrow evening.Thank you sir for your help.