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Title: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on April 28, 2021, 09:32:59 AM

Has anyone converted a wave cab to work with Argos?? Having issues and need help.

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: idesign on April 28, 2021, 10:07:35 AM

That's kind of a general statement.  What issues?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on April 28, 2021, 10:34:30 AM

Quote from: idesign on April 28, 2021, 10:07:35 AM

That's kind of a general statement.  What issues?

I’m only getting to a Bally Boot screen and it just freezes there.

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: idesign on April 28, 2021, 10:52:03 AM

Are you using a 2.4 CPU, and you have already gone thru the install process? Using DP cables for video?  You have the conversion cables and board?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Irish2020 on April 28, 2021, 02:49:44 PM

I had the same issue. It was a bad bios chip.  Try a working Argos Bios chip and that should fix your issue.

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on April 28, 2021, 03:16:02 PM

I’ll get more specific
It’s a 2.1 CPU with the ArgOS graphics card and the 2.4 BIOS. All displays are connected with D/P adapters. Install drives connected or disconnected. It has not worked before but I figured I’d give it a go.
Guess I should start with 2.4 BIOS on 2.1, are they compatible?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: idesign on April 28, 2021, 03:18:49 PM

2.4 bios is not compatible with the 2.1. You need the 2.1 Argos BIOS chip. Is your video card an E8870?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on April 28, 2021, 04:05:59 PM

I’m using a W5100.
Do you know where I could get my hands on the 2.1 BIOS?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: idesign on April 28, 2021, 04:21:40 PM

W5100 does not work, I tried it with a 2.1 and 2.4.  You need a E8870 plus the Windows software must match the cpu version, you can not mix them.  2.1 needs 8 gb of RAM too.

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on April 29, 2021, 10:11:36 AM

Noted on the W5100 and RAM requirements, thank you.
I have an E8870 around but the setup showed the W5100, oh well.
Can you give me some more details or a picture of the conversion harness, though, as well?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on May 04, 2021, 12:00:23 PM

Quote from: idesign on April 28, 2021, 04:21:40 PM

W5100 does not work, I tried it with a 2.1 and 2.4.  You need a E8870 plus the Windows software must match the cpu version, you can not mix them.  2.1 needs 8 gb of RAM too.

Any idea where to get the 2.1 bios? Been looking everywhere. I’ll pay!!

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on May 14, 2021, 12:10:27 PM

So i got everything bios windows OS but after the install and trying to start up the game i get this error. “It’s in the picture”. Any ideas?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: RVC on May 17, 2021, 07:27:11 AM

That game only works in Wave XL and J43

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on May 17, 2021, 08:37:10 AM

Quote from: RVC on May 17, 2021, 07:27:11 AM

That game only works in Wave XL and J43

I have the harness that makes it think it’s a Wave XL. Even when it does it’s cabinet identification it says that it’s a wave XL.

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: RVC on May 17, 2021, 09:34:42 AM

it doesn't work that way, there are only a few games that work on the bally wave with ArgOS, for the others you need SG Wave XL

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on May 17, 2021, 12:24:34 PM

Quote from: RVC on May 17, 2021, 09:34:42 AM

it doesn't work that way, there are only a few games that work on the bally wave with ArgOS, for the others you need SG Wave XL

Do you have a list of those games?

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on June 01, 2021, 04:13:00 PM

Quote from: RVC on May 17, 2021, 09:34:42 AM

it doesn't work that way, there are only a few games that work on the bally wave with ArgOS, for the others you need SG Wave XL

We got it to work....

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: RVC on June 01, 2021, 06:06:51 PM

good to know, SG says it is only for J43 and Wave XL(http://)

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on June 01, 2021, 07:30:32 PM

Quote from: RVC on June 01, 2021, 06:06:51 PM

good to know, SG says it is only for J43 and Wave XL

We have the harness that makes it a wave_pro so maybe they just didn

Title: Re: Converting a Wave cab to work with Argos
Post by: Shammuu on June 01, 2021, 07:35:03 PM

Quote from: RVC on June 01, 2021, 06:06:51 PM

good to know, SG says it is only for J43 and Wave XL

We have the harness that makes it a wave_pro so maybe they just didn’t list it because they didn’t want people to do what we did lol. But we had to have the right OS/Windows version as well as the 8870 and 8 gigs of Ram. Once it had all the it booted right up. Now we just need the jackpot dongle to setup the progressives and we should have it running soon! But if anyone reading this has an 8870 for sale lmk i need 3 more!!