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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally Alpha (Cinevision), and ALL Bally "V___" series - V5000, V2000, V1000, etc. => Topic started by: JDKMunch on July 30, 2015, 03:45:01 PM
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I'm about the put the cherry on top of my alpha2 conversion and would like some advice from those who have done this before. The iDeck (that I have) measures 20 1/8 inches long. The length of a standard button panel is 19 3/8 which leaves the deck 1/2" larger than the button panel.
What is the best way to fix this? cut the deck? cut the door?
I'm looking for the best result here. If I cut the door foam I think it will look unfinished and sloppy. I need a pro solution to this.
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You have to modify the old metal button deck to use the i-deck. I sugguest study and look at and don't f**k up your touch screen cables on the edge. It is work and tedious. (the method). Have a Nice dremel tool etc. on hand.
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Yes but my ideck extends beyond the metal deck and on to the door.
that's the issue - and it's by a huge margin - 1/2 inch over
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Yep, You have to figure it out. Look at the black pad right to left etc. If you want blueprints on how to do this mayby someone else can chime in. I just Do it. It's not that hard -just some work. I will post a pic of what one of mine looks like installed, same sheet you have in a few.
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This one is on a v-32/20 alpha 1-to-2 conversion . pic not good-sorry.
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Thank you - You're awesome
That's exactly what I'm looking for.
the cutting and making it work is easy Making it casino worthy and not a hack job is not so easy.
In your photo the deck doesn't sit on top of the door bumper. Most photos of conversions I've seen have deck just placed on top of the black bumper. For me it is unacceptable. For others if they don't mind so be it.
I have OCD
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Bumpers un-bolt and you can "tuck" after you do the metal work to the OLD metal button deck. I did some of these munch and they do look very nice for a conversion. Just a little work and being carefull with the equipment while atriculating.
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I for one did not bother to drill out the old player panel frame. I just removed the whole player panel frame. Cut off the middle braces in the hole left behind and just inserted the iDeck there. It doesn't look casino worthy, but for my use, it is good enough.
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Looks good Rick. I turned one of mine on and been playing every since some zz-top action. Turned on a mj as well -"hee-he" Sorry my pic sucked- B. Have not played them in a while, munch made me turn them on--- :arrowthruhead: .
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Looks good guys! I can't wait to do a conversion. Just need the funds. Maybe by the time I do mine, I'll find the old V32 conversion button panel?
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A few things I've learned:
1. separate your ideck touch screen
From monitor. This allows cleaning
Of smoke and human discust.
2. 90% of the chrome gets cut a way to fit for
The ideck.
3. Once the deck is fitted. A nice seal
Is needed to keep light from bleed through.
You can see in this photograph that there
Are two spaces on the left and right Bottom where light
Can bleed through this is unacceptable
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I did mine diff. No Bleed thru on light and I used a new deck so did not have to seperate. If Anyone does seperate these (touch from panel lcd) Be very carefull as the touch connections are fragile and small- :cool_thumb_up: .
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Here are pictures of the door assembly and the three ribbon cables that need to be disconnected. Care needs to be taken but it is very easy and necessary to clean and install the deck properly.
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Once those three ribbon cables are out the top screen pops off the door the bottom VGA monitor can safely be removed.
Then the reverse can be done when placing back in the alpha-1 cabinet
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Barry if you know a better way please share that's why I started this thread
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That is a Alpha 2 door frame. The wacking is for alpha 1. The I-deck oval's out there are alpha 2 mostly unless you found a early conversion Bally did. Which do exist (square type to fit alpha 1 cab.).
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Munch, I will. I will look at my last one here and try to share but the first one I did was a test. The ones after I learned more. As far as the light you need to remove and place thin sticky foam under it. I just used igt rolls of it but it is generic stuff. Once these are installed it is kinda a pain to remove on a a-1 to a-2 conversion--I know-- :cool_thumb_up: .
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Awesome thanks - that is
What this thread was all about
I have a bunch of oval a2 decks that
I want in my old ailing a1 machines.
For me the trick is to make an oval
Deck look as perfect as a rectangle
One.
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I'm in the process now looking for the iDeck. I may be able to get my hands on an order one that I believe fits an S9 or V32 Alpha 1 machine. I was told that it has the "old" touchscreen in it. I have two questions about this; 1) what does the old one look like (does it look like the new ones out there and is the screen quality as good as a new one) and 2) will the Alpha 1 iDeck work with the Alpha 2 conversion?
Any help would well, help...a lot :)
Thanks!
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All iDecks are for alpha2 systems. Bally did some V32's with alpha2 parts that included a "square" iDeck that fits perfectly into an alpha1 cabinet. As far as the touchscreen types, there are 2 that I know of.
1. The older iDecks has a bigger separation between the touchscreen and the actual lcd. They also have the vga a/d board and the touchscreen controller on a separate module that attaches to the iDeck via cables. Then the USB and VGA cables come out of that module and plug into the mpu. The single mechanical button connects straight into the backplane from the button on the iDeck.
2. The newer iDecks are a single piece of hardware, with everything integrated on the iDeck itself. The spacing between the touhscreen and the lcd is a lot closer. You then have the 3 harnesses coming out of that (USB, VGA, and mechanical button).
The newer one is more desirable as it is easier to deal with. I have both types and find the newer type much better to work with. I don't know if the V32 square ones are the older type of iDeck or not.
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Thanks Rick.
BTW, how is the video quality of the older one compared to the new one, and does it work for all Alpha 2 games?
If it's made for an Alpha 1 machine can I assume that it fits the A1 like it belongs there?
The older V32 version ideck that I can get is only $100 less than the new rebuilt one (with new replacement 3M touchscreen)
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If you have pictures, I could tell for sure. The newer decks seem to be brighter somehow. I'm not 100% sure, but it looks like the older ones are CFL backlit and the new ones are LED, but I couldn't tell you that 100% for sure, just going by the color temperature of the backlight.
Just to get your terminology correct, there is no such thing as an alpha 1 iDeck. They are all Alpha 2. Bally made some iDecks that would fit on an alpha 1 cabinet, but unless you had the alpha 2 mpu and backplane, you would not have been able to use it, so they are in essence alpha 2 only. It was just manufactured to fit on the older V32 cabinets before the alpha 2 pro v32 cabinets were released. In fact you still see a LOT of alpha 1 V32 cabinets on casino floors today, they have had a long life and is a player favorite, and that's why the V32's are relatively expensive for the outdated alpha 1 platform.
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Thanks again.
I was just on the fence on buying either an older one that fits into the A1 or waiting until there's stock again to get the newer one even though I have to retrofit it onto my A1 V20 cabinet.
I'm going to wait to get the newer one.