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Author Topic: IGT Double diamond S Plus, DAVID'S RESTORATION LOG WITH PHOTOS  (Read 106989 times)

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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #300 on: June 26, 2024, 07:48:34 PM »
To confirm, did the new MPU board resolve the issue you were having where the machine would act like the door had been opened when you used the pull handle to spin?
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #301 on: June 26, 2024, 09:07:24 PM »
To confirm, did the new MPU board resolve the issue you were having where the machine would act like the door had been opened when you used the pull handle to spin?

Everything has been resolved 100%.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
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Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
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Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #302 on: June 27, 2024, 06:59:28 AM »
To confirm, did the new MPU board resolve the issue you were having where the machine would act like the door had been opened when you used the pull handle to spin?

I spoke to soon. Every now and then a random 41 or 43 pop up. Reset it and it plays for awhile. So, instead of happening all of the time, its not happening, just every now and then. . :banghead:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
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Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #303 on: June 27, 2024, 07:28:43 AM »
Are you leaning a leg/pressing a foot against the door when the error pops up?
It sounds like the door optics are out of alignment as the reels spin... that's the likeliest way of setting off that error code.
Since you're now running the game with a different MPU, it doesn't sound like the errors are MPU related.

Sooo...what can you do to narrow down the cause of the random reel errors?

1). Align the door optics with masking tape & a marker.
2). Change/swap out the reel harness.
3). Clean the reel harness pins and motherboard header where the reel harness plugs into.
4). Make sure there's at least a 3/16th gap/separation between any reel glass display and the reel strip baskets.
5). Since there's random errors not specific to any one reel, clean the reel optics on all three reels...make sure there's no dust accumulating on any of the reel optics.
6). Check the reels and optic tabs for any warping / looseness...the reel optic tabs shouldn't physically be touching the optics as the baskets turn.
What I do is pull out the reels from the cabinet, remove the strips from the reels, and turn the reel baskets by hand slowly, watching the reel optic tabs go through and between the optics.
You may see a little wobble but they shouldn't come into contact with the black reel optic plastic enclosures.
The optics are secured into the bottom of the molded reel units with a single screw.
Make sure they're tight - not stripped or loose.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2024, 08:21:12 AM by Stayouttadabunker »
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #304 on: June 27, 2024, 10:16:18 AM »
Here is the video I figured out that the second reel plug will create an 41, 42, code when I wiggle it. The other two are fine.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/pxsR7HqtxBg?feature=share


1). Align the door optics with masking tape & a marker.
2). Change/swap out the reel harness.
3). Clean the reel harness pins and motherboard header where the reel harness plugs into.
4). Make sure there's at least a 3/16th gap/separation between any reel glass display and the reel strip baskets.
5). Since there's random errors not specific to any one reel, clean the reel optics on all three reels...make sure there's no dust accumulating on any of the reel optics.
6). Check the reels and optic tabs for any warping / looseness...the reel optic tabs shouldn't physically be touching the optics as the baskets turn.
What I do is pull out the reels from the cabinet, remove the strips from the reels, and turn the reel baskets by hand slowly, watching the reel optic tabs go through and between the optics.
You may see a little wobble but they shouldn't come into contact with the black reel optic plastic enclosures.
The optics are secured into the bottom of the molded reel units with a single screw.
Make sure they're tight - not stripped or loose.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #305 on: June 27, 2024, 10:19:14 AM »
I checked out the door, lifting up, wiggling it, and nothing happens.
Using my override door optics, it gives me the opportunity to diagnose the machine.

1). Align the door optics with masking tape & a marker.
2). Change/swap out the reel harness.
3). Clean the reel harness pins and motherboard header where the reel harness plugs into.
4). Make sure there's at least a 3/16th gap/separation between any reel glass display and the reel strip baskets.
5). Since there's random errors not specific to any one reel, clean the reel optics on all three reels...make sure there's no dust accumulating on any of the reel optics.
6). Check the reels and optic tabs for any warping / looseness...the reel optic tabs shouldn't physically be touching the optics as the baskets turn.
What I do is pull out the reels from the cabinet, remove the strips from the reels, and turn the reel baskets by hand slowly, watching the reel optic tabs go through and between the optics.
You may see a little wobble but they shouldn't come into contact with the black reel optic plastic enclosures.
The optics are secured into the bottom of the molded reel units with a single screw.
Make sure they're tight - not stripped or loose.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #306 on: June 27, 2024, 10:21:03 AM »
So here is the #2 plug. I will clean it up and go from here.

1). Align the door optics with masking tape & a marker.
2). Change/swap out the reel harness.
3). Clean the reel harness pins and motherboard header where the reel harness plugs into.
4). Make sure there's at least a 3/16th gap/separation between any reel glass display and the reel strip baskets.
5). Since there's random errors not specific to any one reel, clean the reel optics on all three reels...make sure there's no dust accumulating on any of the reel optics.
6). Check the reels and optic tabs for any warping / looseness...the reel optic tabs shouldn't physically be touching the optics as the baskets turn.
What I do is pull out the reels from the cabinet, remove the strips from the reels, and turn the reel baskets by hand slowly, watching the reel optic tabs go through and between the optics.
You may see a little wobble but they shouldn't come into contact with the black reel optic plastic enclosures.
The optics are secured into the bottom of the molded reel units with a single screw.
Make sure they're tight - not stripped or loose.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #307 on: June 27, 2024, 10:30:25 AM »
The reels are running true, no issues.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NqF5PVk0ryY&feature=youtu.be



1). Align the door optics with masking tape & a marker.
2). Change/swap out the reel harness.
3). Clean the reel harness pins and motherboard header where the reel harness plugs into.
4). Make sure there's at least a 3/16th gap/separation between any reel glass display and the reel strip baskets.
5). Since there's random errors not specific to any one reel, clean the reel optics on all three reels...make sure there's no dust accumulating on any of the reel optics.
6). Check the reels and optic tabs for any warping / looseness...the reel optic tabs shouldn't physically be touching the optics as the baskets turn.
What I do is pull out the reels from the cabinet, remove the strips from the reels, and turn the reel baskets by hand slowly, watching the reel optic tabs go through and between the optics.
You may see a little wobble but they shouldn't come into contact with the black reel optic plastic enclosures.
The optics are secured into the bottom of the molded reel units with a single screw.
Make sure they're tight - not stripped or loose.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #308 on: June 27, 2024, 11:09:01 AM »
It's important to check out everything, looking for issues, sometimes tiny ones you may not see if you are not looking for them. Look at the arrow pointing to the black wire pin, it came out of the back socket.
Replacing the MPU resolved all of the problems with the handle release, and other issues. I really couldn't figure out the issues with the reels 41, 42, 43, code until I resolved the other issues first.
The way the slot machine is programmed is perfect, nudge, double diamond, cherry payout, it's great.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2024, 11:41:20 AM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #309 on: June 27, 2024, 02:13:03 PM »
I had to move the slot machine to accommodate the chair. I have collected books on this machine, as you can see it is a lot of research. The three LED lights needed to be adjusted for brightness.
« Last Edit: June 27, 2024, 05:26:07 PM by David Walz »
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #310 on: June 27, 2024, 06:52:13 PM »
Yep...a bad pin in the harness making for a flaky electrical contact would cause errors.
I wonder how the pin got pushed out of the housing?
There's supposed to be two metal "legs" keeping that male pin from going backwards...lol
Oh well...glad you checked the harness and found the problem!   :cool_thumb_up:
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #311 on: June 27, 2024, 07:21:20 PM »
Yep...a bad pin in the harness making for a flaky electrical contact would cause errors.
I wonder how the pin got pushed out of the housing?
There's supposed to be two metal "legs" keeping that male pin from going backwards...lol
Oh well...glad you checked the harness and found the problem!   :cool_thumb_up:

I removed the all of harnesses from the cabinet when restoring the slot machine. I clean the plugs on each one, this could have been loose from the beginning. I work with the Molex connectors all the time. It's really important to clean every plug when the slot machine has been exposed to damp conditions. I am pretty good at diagnostic problems. The MPU is clearly out of my realm of experience, the old one was toast.
This slot machine was dismantled down to the last screw. Restored to this condition.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #312 on: June 27, 2024, 07:34:40 PM »
This IGT S+ was purchased in a poor condition. I sourced the following:
Coin tray
Speaker
Hopper
Quarter electronics, housing, assembly on door
LED fluorescent lights
Buttons on the door
Keys and locks
Candle
Reel glass
MPU
Fabricating two covers
Door optics
New bulbs
Pull handle switch
Tiny zip ties
Screws and nuts
Power cord
Decals
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #313 on: July 03, 2024, 11:51:42 AM »
Found the bell parts, having them shipped to me.  :dancing_party:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #314 on: July 03, 2024, 12:03:14 PM »
Boy you will be sorry - especially if you have it ring for all-wins vs just top wins......

Buy some medical gauze and wrap the hammer strike.

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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #315 on: July 03, 2024, 04:22:29 PM »
Boy you will be sorry - especially if you have it ring for all-wins vs just top wins......

Buy some medical gauze and wrap the hammer strike.

I'm deaf, so I can't hear s*it.  :24: :24:
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #316 on: July 03, 2024, 04:33:13 PM »
My wife says I have selective hearing  :rotfl:
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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #317 on: July 04, 2024, 03:51:07 PM »
My wife says I have selective hearing  :rotfl:

Same problem with my wife, except I really lost my hearing in law enforcement.  :rotfl:
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
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907-315-0525

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Re: IGT Double diamond S Plus, RESTORATION
« Reply #318 on: July 09, 2024, 06:41:50 AM »
Sourced the bell and the wiring harness, I installed the part into the slot machine.

It's complete for a early S+.  :thank_you: for your help, everyone for your help in restoring this IGT.
IGT model: S-Plus 25¢ 1991
Bally Model: V5500 25¢1995
Bally 3 reel model: 1114 $1.00 3 coin multiplier, 1977
Bally 3 reel Model: 1090-29, 25¢, 3 coin multiplier, 1979
Bally 3 reel model: 809-ZZN, 5¢ Mint Hotel and Casino,  5 coin multiplier, 1970
Bally 3 reel Model: 831-4Z 25¢ Frontier Hotel and casino, 3 coin multiplayer,1975
Rowe Jukebox Model: CD-100 Year: March 1990
___________________________
Wasilla Locksmith safe and vault.
907-315-0525

 

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