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Progressive Controllers and Displays => Mikohn Progressive Systems => Topic started by: Catalinafan on April 23, 2016, 01:04:23 PM
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Hi all newb here and first post so forgive me if I'm in the wrong place
What my question is ...... I have a igt s2000 mucho dinero slot and I'm very confused about clear/key chips
What I'm trying to do is enable progressive with a cham2 display and a mikohn stand alone controller. I have already tested and programmed messages and jp amount using psp2.0 successfully thanks to the enormous wealth of knowledge found here Here's the fly in the soup everything seems to be working as planned except I can't get a signal to add to jp amount (I can by shorting pins 4/5) when I go to 7.3 progressive I get controller select (7.3.2) goes to 7.3.1.1 game 1 -7.3.1.1.1 25 cents with message game 1: denim 25 cents: level 1 none : disabled ($0.00). 7.3.2 progressive display set up saying none. 7.3.3 stand alone setup and the button clicks but makes no changes. So what do I need to correct this clear chip? Key chip? Not needing to change denom just get the progressive activated.
Mpu info....
Version chip vso11gx1 (1-1001)
Stepper game 1. Sg000523 (2-080) 1of 2
Stepper game 2. Sg000523 (2-080) 2of 2
Stepper base. Sb100269 (1-04002)
Thanks in advance any help would be appreciated. Like I said not sure if I need a clear or key chip or both and what number chip if that's what I need
Thank you
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You are in the correct place.
You just need a key chip to change that setting.
But you might as well get both clear and key.
Since I do not know the board type I suggest a clear 224 and a key 45. These chips will work on both 500 series and enhanced board sets.
:NLG_WELCOME:
When you get the key chip post back for more help if needed.
Rich
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How do I identify board I did see 2ics with enhanced wrote on them. I'll post any info needed. Thank you
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Can you post a picture of your board?
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Glad to I'll be home in 10 minutes and I'll post
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Here's pics. And sorry I was incorrect on chip label they actually say advanced and in socket u18 and u45
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That's a 500 series board. I would still get the clear 224 and key 45 but a clear 97 key 17 will work for your board set.
You should probably also remove that green Varta battery and clean the area with a mild vinegar solution followed by clear water on a qtip. The green battery is not needed for home use and they leak alkali and ruin the traces on the board. Look in the S2000 topic for more on this. From your picture you can already see green corrosion on the legs of the diodes near the battery so damage has already started to occur.
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What a great site and great people here.
Thank all for info and I will get the chips and I agree I need to change the battery. A great reason to have clear chip
:thank_you: :agreepost:
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Don't change it just remove it. Not needed.
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Ok did not know that. Thanks for advice I will remove it will I need to rekey or clear anything after removal?
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No nothing should change just be careful so you don't damage any traces on the board when you remove it.
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:1: :thank_you:
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Does Mucho Dinero have a dedicated Sound Simm? I figure with a name like that, I can hear some sort of Latin music during the spins?
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When you say:
(I can't get a signal to add to jp amount (I can by shorting pins 4/5)
meaning jackpot amount to increment on the display.
Make sure the following is set correct:
ChamII board using switch and 2 padded push buttons
JP GRP set to SA
PSP under jackpot programming
F3 SINGL
F4 M-08
F8 MS08
Increment level to your liking
S2000 Menu
7.3 Progressive
7.3.1 Controller Select
7.3.1.1 Game 1
7.3.1.2 25c
Game 1: Demon 25c : Level 1
Stand Alone: Disabled
None: Disabled
SAS: Disabled
Link: Level 1 (I think this is the setting you missed)
Only other thing it could be is the connection between
Mikohn J7 to the S2000
Then when you get that fixed you might want to get
the sound sim for that game as it has some cool sounds.
Good Luck.Tim
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Correct if I short or intermittently connect a jumper to pin 4and5 on j15(backplane) or on j7 (controller) I can get the jackpot increments to rise. That's to say the cable from j15 to j7 is working and the jackpot increases
I'm unclear about the settings
Psp menu=address
Jp group set to sa
I am not seeing those on psp
The rest I'll do my best to explain Psp under jp programming.settings all good
On s2000 I can see
7.3 progressive
7.3.1 controller select
7.3.1.1 game 1
Do not see display 7.3.1.2 25c
7.3.3 stand alone I click on spin and nothing changes
Says progressive group =0 with no available options
I cannot find. Link- level 1 disabled
And when I see 7.3.3 stand alone Click spin no changes
7.3.2 progressive display setup click spin message says none with no other options
Hope this may clarify things a little better
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To rickhunter. Yes it plays some odd notes makes me want to grab my sombrero and tequila lol
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You need to key the machine before you can change anything on the 7.?.? section. Option to change will become available after keying.
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Correct if I short or intermittently connect a jumper to pin 4and5 on j15(backplane) or on j7 (controller) I can get the jackpot increments to rise. That's to say the cable from j15 to j7 is working and the jackpot increases
I'm unclear about the settings
Psp menu=address
Jp group set to sa
I am not seeing those on psp
The rest I'll do my best to explain Psp under jp programming.settings all good
On s2000 I can see
7.3 progressive
7.3.1 controller select
7.3.1.1 game 1
Do not see display 7.3.1.2 25c
7.3.3 stand alone I click on spin and nothing changes
Says progressive group =0 with no available options
I cannot find. Link- level 1 disabled
And when I see 7.3.3 stand alone Click spin no changes
7.3.2 progressive display setup click spin message says none with no other options
Hope this may clarify things a little better
Sorry I made a typo on psp menu=address Jp group set to SA
I was referring to ChamII board setting using the switch and padded push buttons
as to setting it to SA.(corrected that in my original post)
7.3.2 should be none
7.3.3 stand alone Click spin no changes-is correct
So re-key the machine(no credits on machine) and try again
no big deal and welcome to the progressive world.
Tim
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Ok no problem. I do have setting on sa
Other question Will Keychip 0045 carry programming for bill validator as my machine is coinless only. And where would be the recommended source for chip or files as I have a gq-4x programmer to create EPROMs
Again a big thank you to all
I have removed green battery and cleaned board thanks for the info about not needing
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Does Mucho Dinero have a dedicated Sound Simm? I figure with a name like that, I can hear some sort of Latin music during the spins?
If Mucho Dinero has a sound Simm, what's the Simm boards number? I would like to locate one for my machine...
Gary
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No special sound simm for this game. A generic 42 would work.
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Sorry to sound like a dummy but where would the board be located this is my first slot and I'm in the huge learning curve
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Thanks.. Is there a list on sound SIMM available, dedicated to certain game themes? I know games like Phantom of the Opera, Titanic, Etc..
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It's a piggy back MMII board and it mounts right on top of the MPU to those 2 long white connectors.. Here's one at Rudys
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The game is a clone of Tabasco
you could always throw in a Tabasco SB chip with a DSV00022
Never tried DSV00022 with Muchco Dienro SB though.
Heck it's better than a 42sim anyway.
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That would be cool, run the tobasco SB and sound simm.
Reminds me of my Double diamond haywire. It's running a Wild Thing Cowgirl SB and related sound simm card. Very cool.
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Update. Success! I now have a working progressive display by using key45 and following the immense knowledge I've been fortunate enough to find here
Thank you everyone There's no way I could have done this on my own
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Hi all again. I would like to know if I can change amount of time jp total is displayed
I see jp for about 6 seconds then message. I would like it to stay on around 20-30 seconds. I've tried the speed command in psp and tinkered with a few more settings with no luck
If I set speed to 1 (in psp) it stays on for about 1 second go all the way to 9 and most it will stay is 6-7 seconds
Thanks in advance
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Couple pics
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Very nice
Now all you need to do is get a few more machines and link the progressive together. :stirthepot:
Rich
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Just gotta add a new addition for more room lol Really would like to get the timing right on display but I'm very happy I made it this far
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What I have done to lengthen the display of the jackpot value is to repeat the command 3 or 4 times in a row. I have tried the timing thing like you have and had no success. Repeat the jackpot command a number of times until you get a duration that you like.
Rich
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I'll do that and report back as for now it's bed time
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We'll qbert you did it again.
Your suggestion worked perfectly
Had to send several times before it took data but success
Thank you very much
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Very common to have to send multiple times.
Glad all is working.
Rich
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Update. I have located parts and waiting for everything to come in
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