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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => CDS => Topic started by: Amechanic on July 04, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
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I just picked up a CDS Video Poker slot machine. Need a manual that's my first request since I didn't see anything in the downloads section. The machine powers and plays music while cycling the screen. I do not have any keys and I am assuming I need that to access any machine programs. The coins fall straight through to the coin tray. It has a bill valadator but I didn't hear it cycle? It has a newer CC-40a comparitor, lights not on. Machine has a great picture. Can anyone help??
Thanks, Gary
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Attached is a software manual for a UV-1910, it's pretty close to the UV-1510. I've never found one specific for the UV-1510. Hope it helps. You'll need a key to access the menus. Hope it helps.
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Thanks for the manual. Can you tell me if the CDS had its own style reset keys? I don't see coin optics? How does this machine register coin credits?
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Yeah, they have their own non-standard reset key. It's the top keyswitch and it is a two way switch, it rotates clockwise and counterclockwise. The keyswitch below that is for the Meter Lights, then there's one for the bill validator too.
I think the comparitor sends the coin-in signal to the machine, but don't quote me on that, the CDS I had is at my in-laws place and I haven't had to do anything to it in a long time.
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I was able to find a door key, it happens to be the standard 000001 key. I've also been able to get the Bill acceptor to slide out, and the bill stackers empty... Gotten lucky before.. I've finally found the messages on the right side of the screen. It said logic board open? That's when I noticed the door style switch next to the boards.. I pulled the switch out to close that circuit, it now says logic door closed machine reset, and my coin comparitors light is now on. Hopefully it now just needs a reset key.
Gary
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I forgot to ask, are both resets the same key? It figures the two wire lower reset is for the meters because I'm able to get at those wires on the back to jumper them. The top reset has shrink wrap on the connections. I'm going to try and jumper it at the molex plug.
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On mine they are the same, but the BV lock and door lock are different.
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Well my jumper got me into part of the menu, but I was not able to reset the machine? I've thought of two more questions..
#1.. Do I need a reset chip for this CDS?
#2.. Do you know what it has for a battery?
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The UV-1510's do not require a reset chip, you can initialize it through the menu system. The battery is a CR-2354.
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Well that's good news that it doesn't need a reset chip. I'll look for the battery tomorrow, and just back into menu to figure out the initialize reset..
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Here's my post on the battery I replaced for this machine. It was fairly straightforward although some of the messages were strange as it initialized. Don't forget to latch the mpu case and closer the main door first, the power on and start the initialize process.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=6612.msg36883#msg36883 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=6612.msg36883#msg36883)
I really liked this game. I wish there was a similar one for the Bally game maker!
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The funny thing is, that this machine doesn't have a door in the MPU/Boards. That's why when I read the message on the right edge of the screen (logic switch open) I started looking around and saw the same style switch as used on the door. Once that was closed is when my comparitors light came on..
I'm going to have lunch then head back out to the garage, to look for the battery.
Gary
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Just be careful pulling out the MPU... it's a multi board assembly and kind of tricky to get in and out.
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It wasn't that bad. You use the two white levers to get the board out. I found and replaced the battery and did the itinialize part of setup. My problem is that I still have a game reset message on the front screen? I've tried jumpering the resets since I don't have the key, but no matter what I try that message remains? I finally got both reset lock out to take to a lock smith.
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If I recall correctly, I think the game reset message is informational, not an active error. It will show that when the machine is initially turned on until a game is played. Maybe shortrackskater can confirm that?
As far as MPU removal, I usually disconnect the ribbon cable running between the two boards, then pull it out.
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Did you make sure the main door is closed fully? Everything has to be closed including that MPU switch. I wasn't sure if you had one or if you did, it was in the closed position.
I forgot which switch it was but one turns on lights and the other (right side) should put the machine into an initialize mode. It will tell you to press a series of the hold/draw buttons.
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I am past the initialize part in the setup menu.. I have two switches, main door on bottom right, and the one on the left side of the boards. I do not have cover or door for the boards. So I have pulled the switch's plunger forward and that has it closed.
I'm beginning to think my problem lays with the comparitor. The lights on, but all my coins are falling straight thru back to the coin tray. This comparitor has my coin optics in it. The numbers on it are CC-40a, 4b 24V
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Will it take bills and play? I'd think if both the CC and BV don't work, then it may have not initialized. Did the screen display properly during initialization? If I recall (I should - it was only a few weeks ago I did this!) there should have been a menu where you scroll down and press a series of keys.
Dumb question but is there a coin in the CC?
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Update, second attempt... Somehow is erased and lot my post last night :talktothehand:..
Yes I have a quarter in the comparitor.. :nerd: I did some reading here on my comparitor and looked at a schematic. Come to find out I had turned the sensitivity pot turned the wrong way. I thought the + meant more sensitive, but I had to have it turned all the way CCW.. Once I did that and closed the door it accepted my quarters! :dancing_2: I played a few hand and even got to play the bonus multi round. Pretty cool game and not a bad buy at $100.
Now my next problem to address is the bill acceptor. I tried feeding it some singles but it gave them all right back to me. :Scratch-Head: the sticker says its a DBV-200, but in the menu it said DBV-145? I don't know anything about the DBV acceptors.. I'm in process of putting a lock on the side to release the whole bill acceptor and cash box.
My last fix is to see if I can get a key made for the resets and menu keys. It too bad it doesn't use the standard IGT, Bally, and many other machines reset key!!
Hey Shortrackskater... Do you have a way or happen to know if your reset keys had a number on them? That would be helpful to me to give to a locksmith.
Gary
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I'll try and contact the owner of that slot but his listing on CL is deleted so I have a feeling it's gone.
It sounds like the BV is enabled since its at least taking bills in and out. It might just be dirty in there. Have you tried a $20? I'm sure it started out with a DBV 145 and was replaced with the 200. If Buzz was reading he'd tell you to immediately throw the 145 in the trash! Yes you need to get the unit out. With no lock on the side, there should be a way to release the latch I'd think.
When it takes a bill in, does it "grab" the bill firmly? Those O rings that grab the bill in can wear out. I fixed there DBV 200's by replacing them. But it may just be dirt and grime on the series of lenses inside the unit that may need cleaning. Don't use alcohol or it may cloud the lenses. I used eyeglass cleaner. Buzz used spit! Or, as he said it - "my DNA." :)
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I was able to release the latch holding the bill acceptor and cash box in the machine. I have the latch assembly out, and I'm currently modifying a new release cam on the lock since it didn't have the right one. Once reinstalled I can address the bill acceptor problem. Then move on to the reset keys needed.
Gary
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Any luck with the BV?
It might just be something in the settings like the limits being set to zero. Can you go back to the initialization menu? Sorry I got lost as to your progress!
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The machine has a max coin payout of 1000 coins. I have everything fixed now except for the BV.. I'm hoping to get it to at least take singles. I plan on going back into the menu today and see if I can run a bill Validator test.
I only have a few small things to address, Belly glass is loose on one end, missing a nut on retaining bracket, then just a little chrome polish, and glass cleaner. Not a bad machine for $100 + $40 for having keys made.
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Well I went into the menu today and looked around.. I found the communication test, but I wasn't sure what to do? I took a couple pictures of different screens. One show some numbers under bill valadator. I can clear the numbers to zero, but start growing right away again. The other screen shows configuration, and current settings. It shows its set as a quarter machine, but under bill validator its showing a $0 for 0 credits?
I do not see a way to make any changes? I'm thinking of pulling the MPU out and taking to battery out. I think this is the only way to totally start over?
I know when I tried inserting a dollar bill in test mode I was getting a dirrection error? I thought the DBV-200 would read from any dirrection?
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That's what I was going to say - pull out the battery. I'd leave it out for awhile too, then try the reset again. I never saw those menus when I did this.
No the BV 200 is directional. I think the bill head has to be to the left.
Apparenty NLG is just you, me and tilt!
Kind of disappointing - usually this kind of post would have had all kinds of members chiming in just for the fun of fixing this machine, whether they were familiar with it or not.